Zombie invasion Mafia game.

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What's all this talk about fingering?

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Keep posting people... the more you write, the more you open yourselves.

Vote: Noammr
Unvote: Ankeli

here is another giveaway for both Val and Ankeli. The post immediately after this one is TC asking where he ever voted for Ankeli. He saw a lynch train starting on ankeli and didn't want to be responsible for his scumbuddie's death, so in a fit of panic unvoted him. Jokes on him though, he never actually voted for Ankeli.


 
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As for me, don't worry yet, I'm camped out in an abandoned water

tower with enough ammo to last me a few nights. Focus on getting

someone more important first.

One other thing I would love to get into forum town its hard work

playing survivor out here!

So we have Asrrin (post 7) and crazyivan (289) outside town. Wow what

has that scout been doing? Let's hope it wasn't gory or Uraj.:D

Val has no idea what any of the roles do. I can prove he is wrong about the scout AND scavenger if need be.

Oh go on then, what are you claiming?

Gory would've had Noodle lynched IF he

got that post in a minute before TC. now, with Noodle being a veteran

mafia game player, i don't think he'd kill Gory because it would've

looked bad on him; vengeful kill. so unless Noodle is mafia and did

take that chance, it could be possible someone is framing him.

Amusing OT; last time I saw "X could be framing Y" the person who

posted it was doing the framing. (Not that I'm suggesting you are, I

just thought it was funny.)

Just so you know Techno, some people in this game will NK you just

for posting wall of texts. :p

As for yesterday - well I still think Ankeli is mafia and the fake

doc claim left him free to do something nasty last night.

I have no real idea if Noodle is mafia or not. Mainly because I have

a hard time taking monkey-boy seriously anyway. :p

I can't comment on how others usually play as I rarely join these

things.

Keeping zombies at bay.

Sigh. Another role claim?

I sent you a PM regarding my role and my

choice of action last night, but I think you didn't read it. How do I

know your Inbox is full?

As for Val's post in 308. Oh good grief, the only saving grace is

that it didn't contain algebra. How did you work out everyone's roles

on day one? Seance with Uraj?

What is it with % crap - is it code between Valhauros, Asrrin, Krazeyivan, Bad Ash, Sathoris and Z_Y.


Ankeli explicitly calls Doc role. Yawn.

Oh the arrogance. With posture like that you should get NK'd soon, very soon, and if you don't what can we deduct from that?


That's "deduce". "Deduct" means reduce.

Also Feysal you still haven't explained what you meant by tunneling? I'm still surprised you voted to try to get a lynch yesterday.

You're not posting much Z_Y but you've made a couple of sensible posts.

didn't read the rules very well, which would by itslef indicate him being mafia,

Pfft. If you're going to take not reading the rules as a mafia tell then lynch me now because I've said at least twice I haven't really read them. So did someone else.

I'm still bemused why I thought more people voted Ank then switched. I'll go see if I can find all the unvotes.



 
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Sorry about the formatting. I wrote that in notepad and didn't remove word wrap. :(
 
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Same post as above: better formatting:

As for me, don't worry yet, I'm camped out in an abandoned water tower with enough ammo to last me a few nights. Focus on getting someone more important first.

One other thing I would love to get into forum town its hard work playing survivor out here!

So we have Asrrin (post 7) and crazyivan (289) outside town. Wow what has that scout been doing? Let's hope it wasn't gory or Uraj.:D

Val has no idea what any of the roles do. I can prove he is wrong about the scout AND scavenger if need be.

Oh go on then, what are you claiming?

Gory would've had Noodle lynched IF he got that post in a minute before TC. now, with Noodle being a veteran mafia game player, i don't think he'd kill Gory because it would've looked bad on him; vengeful kill. so unless Noodle is mafia and did take that chance, it could be possible someone is framing him.

Amusing OT; last time I saw "X could be framing Y" the person who posted it was doing the framing. (Not that I'm suggesting you are, I just thought it was funny.)

Just so you know Techno, some people in this game will NK you just for posting wall of texts. :p

As for yesterday - well I still think Ankeli is mafia and the fake doc claim left him free to do something nasty last night.

I have no real idea if Noodle is mafia or not. Mainly because I have a hard time taking monkey-boy seriously anyway. :p

I can't comment on how others usually play as I rarely join these things.

Keeping zombies at bay.

Sigh. Another role claim?

I sent you a PM regarding my role and my choice of action last night, but I think you didn't read it. How do I know your Inbox is full?

As for Val's post in 308. Oh good grief, the only saving grace is that it didn't contain algebra. How did you work out everyone's roles on day one? Seance with Uraj?

What is it with % crap - is it code between Valhauros, Asrrin, Krazeyivan, Bad Ash, Sathoris and Z_Y.


Ankeli explicitly calls Doc role. Yawn.

Oh the arrogance. With posture like that you should get NK'd soon, very soon, and if you don't what can we deduct from that?


That's "deduce". "Deduct" means reduce.

Also Feysal you still haven't explained what you meant by tunneling? I'm still surprised you voted to try to get a lynch yesterday.

You're not posting much Z_Y but you've made a couple of sensible posts.

didn't read the rules very well, which would by itslef indicate him being mafia,

Pfft. If you're going to take not reading the rules as a mafia tell then lynch me now because I've said at least twice I haven't really read them. So did someone else.

I'm still bemused why I thought more people voted Ank then switched. I'll go see if I can find all the unvotes.



 
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After reading over the previous posts again, I'm going to go along with the Valhauros vote. I don't think I really need to explain it since it was already discussed.

Vote: Valhauros
 
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I can see 3 of each role, 5-6 civilians, 4 mafia, and maybe a special role (SK, cop, small but nonzero chance for doc, etc.)
If there are 3 players of each basic role, then there are 15, add up the 4 mafia, a special role, plus 5-6 civilians, it's 25 or 26 individuals... but you forgot the game started with only 22 players.

You didn't. But as I said, I feel Gorny made a roleclaim, and coupled with my personal view on the game so far, I'm 100% convinced that if he is not lying in his roleclaim, you are wrong.
I'm pretty sure I caught his role claim before you did, as a matter of fact, he made the claims more than once, and I know for a fact his role literally changed between day one and two. I had taken those into account when making my role list and coming to the conclusion Sathoris is a Mafia goon, as well as Nurman, Zhao and Trionth.

As for Val's post in 308. Oh good grief, the only saving grace is that it didn't contain algebra. How did you work out everyone's roles on day one? Seance with Uraj?
I read the entire thread several times, used a table of possible distribution (how many players per role), tried to find every claim in the thread, both by direct statement and by the content of particular comments, and started ruling out which players didn't seem to fit into one or another role. If it seems I'll get lynched, I'll post my findings.


 
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Just as an FYI, I sat here for the past hour and watched who was viewing the community forums. Laarz, Noodle, and Val were all here for most of an hour (and Laarz and val are still here) and haven't posted anything here. You'd figure Val would have something to say in his defense, unless he knows that he's scum and opening his mouth will just incriminate his scumbuddies more. And Laarz hasn't posted since yesterday, and is (still) suspiciously quiet.
 
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Asrrin, I log on when I get to work, and keep it up pretty much all day. Much of the time it's minimized while I'm doing actual work. When it's up, I'm not necessarily viewing this thread. There are constantly spambots to research and ban, the newcomer forum to keep an eye on, etc.
 
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Laarz, Noodle, and Val were all here for most of an hour (and Laarz and val are still here) and haven't posted anything here. You'd figure Val would have something to say in his defense, unless he knows that he's scum and opening his mouth will just incriminate his scumbuddies more. And Laarz hasn't posted since yesterday, and is (still) suspiciously quiet.
I was re-reading the entire thread, to correct my super noobish role list and as you can see I made a post, to which I'll add I also know (or believe) what your role is and whether you are stranded in the city or residing as a citizen in the house. I also thought Laarz might be from the Mafia, but I don't have enough evidence to be sure... he could be a stranded civilian too.


 
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Asrrin, I log on when I get to work, and keep it up pretty much all day. Much of the time it's minimized while I'm doing actual work. When it's up, I'm not necessarily viewing this thread. There are constantly spambots to research and ban, the newcomer forum to keep an eye on, etc.

I figured as much, which is why I only mentioned you were on, not asking for a reason you didn't post.

Val posted right before I did, but unless he has an extremely convincing roleclaim I still see absolutely no way he's not scum. Please Val, enlighten me.


 
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I'm pretty sure I caught his role claim before you did, as a matter of fact, he made the claims more than once, and I know for a fact his role literally changed between day one and two. I had taken those into account when making my role list and coming to the conclusion Sathoris is a Mafia goon, as well as Nurman, Zhao and Trionth.

It's over boys. Val has fingered us and found out everybody's role.

I'll throw a wild guess: We know the game started with 22 players, and from what I've read, the Mafia tends to constitute a quarter of them, which in this case would be 6. Since it has been stated there are civilians and apparently a doctor role, I'd say there are 2 players of every starting role, which would leave 5 civilians. Despite being my first Mafia game, I believe I have a 68% accurate knowledge of everyone's role; at the very least, I know for sure who are both soldiers, both scouts, the citizen scientist and one of the scavengers. Therefore, I've decided to claim my Not-Mafia role... Why? Because I just learned the Mafia members know each other and have contact at the night phase, so it's useless to pretend that I might been of them due to them already knowing my alignment.

Moreover, I've come to the conclusion that Sathoris is a Mafia goon; he has been particularly aggressive to players who pose as neutral, with the apparent intention to make them seem as scum while being reluctant to be thought as one of them, hence trying to save himself by misdirection. I've chosen also him by ruling out the citizens and stranded civilians.

Vote: Sathoris

I'm just coming back here because I love this post and I want to follow your train of thought. You start by throwing out a wild guess on which you base your 68% (lol) accurasy of everybody's role, including through deduction that I'm left as a mafia goon.

It's not too hard to figure out who's stranded and who could already be in the town. Yet you are special and can even find out the players assigned to six of those roles. Yet you found out my allignement by ruling out the other citizens and civilians, so you know who they are too? Since I'm not one of them you say.

Then you decide to claim your town role (still waiting on that role btw) because you just learned the fundamental basics of the mafiagame?


 
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I agree, Valhauros is claiming knowledge that he either can't realistically have, or if he has is outing himself as an absurdly overpowered pro-town role. Much as I would like the latter to be true, I can't believe TC would include such a role in his game.

Vote: Valhauros
 
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Yes!

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Night action would suggest he's either mafia or he's a townie inside the fort. Unless he's the mafia hitman, wouldn't a more experienced mafia member be sending in the night actions to avoid gaming faux pas? But that would be assumming the mafia don't have additional power roles.

Val mentioning that he knows a couple of roles, I was thinking that it's possible that the townies inside the fort may form a type of mason group? Or would that be too unbalanced for the town?



 
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I think we are barking up the wrong tree with Val.

His theories over who is or is not mafia may not be correct, but the fact he let slip he had a role which required PMing TC on Day 1 makes it more than possible he has a town power role.
 
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Night action would suggest he's either mafia or he's a townie inside the fort. Unless he's the mafia hitman, wouldn't a more experienced mafia member be sending in the night actions to avoid gaming faux pas? But that would be assumming the mafia don't have additional power roles.

Val mentioning that he knows a couple of roles, I was thinking that it's possible that the townies inside the fort may form a type of mason group? Or would that be too unbalanced for the town?

Yes, based on his night action claim, he's either scum or in the safe zone. However I systematically debunked each role inside the fort that he could be. Therefore, he has a night action, and he's not inside the fort. ergo, scum!

I also had a suspicion about a possible mason group, but I kept it to myself to not let any mafia on to that fact, if true. Again, if there is a mason group, Val is certainly NOT in it because he botched the role abilities in the post I quoted when I outed him.


 
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Therefore, he has a night action, and he's not inside the fort. ergo, scum!

This requires the mafia to have additional power roles above and beyond the night kill. So do you think this game has a very powerful mafia then. The town is after all facing NK's and game dynamics which penalize them aswell.

If his action was the night kill he would surely be fully aware that it had suceeded.


 
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I think we are barking up the wrong tree with Val.

His theories over who is or is not mafia may not be correct, but the fact he let slip he had a role which required PMing TC on Day 1 makes it more than possible he has a town power role.

Ok, let me make it as clear as possible. This is one of Val's posts:

This is pure speculation, since I've never played a Mafia forum game before, but from what I've seen from the statistics (Post #3):

° Soldiers provide additional defense, helping lowering Zombie threat or helping scouts or scavengers by protecting them in their quest.
° Scouts have a chance to bring an additional member to the house or finding items to increase survival.
° Scavengers find food, items or weapons for the citizens.
° Scientists research, perhaps increasing food management, morale or defense.
° Engineers produces weapons, defenses, extra housing or repairs vehicles (who may help with scouting or scavenging).

As of right now, there are only 4 town power roles that can be used, because only 4 roles are present inside the fort. No power role outside the town can use it's ability until they reach safety.

He can't be the engineer, he's dead.
He can't be the soldier, I've accounted for all the soldiers.
He can't be the scout, or the scavenger because he thinks that both of these roles could have a chance to find things other than people and food respectively.

I know that at least 3 town power roles know the correct actions for scouts and/or scavengers. I am taking a small leap of logic to conclude that the last power role that he could possibly be (the scientist) would have enough information in their PM to know the actions of one of the other power roles. He is able to research that boosts everyone's stats, so he should actually know more about other people's roles than anyone else in the game. For instance, I do NOT know what kind of role PM the engineers have, but for this current debate, that's a moot point.

So, he has a night action, and can't be inside the town. He's Scum! and if I have to make this any more clear than it already is, I might as well roleclaim /eyeroll.


 
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