You know, duping is a GOOD thing.

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You know, duping is a GOOD thing.

I used to hate the idea... that people were cheating and being rewarded for it. But really, it's rewarding all of us. I mean, damn man, Blizzard is out of their bloody minds. How the hell are you going to make a runeword like Last Wish without duping? Rush like 1000 characters to Hell? Kill the Countess hundreds of thousands of times? It's absurd.

Now don't get me wrong: I'd love to see duping patched out... but to accompany that, I'd also like the drop odds on the higher runes to be brought down below 1:100042231 for each kill. Blizzard really encourages it with these BS odds.
 
Duping is not a good thing. The value of runes means nothing, runewords mean nothing, rolling grief a million times for example is NEVER supposed to happen. Those highest runewords arent meant to be used by every single person in the game, especially if they arent dedicated enough. You have the concept that maybe with a little time spent everyone can get the best runewords, thats most definately not how it should be.

Breath Of The Dying? Zod? That item should have been in the hands of maybe 1 or 2 people. Thats the whole point.
 
Ugh. The 'Last Wish' runeword is insanely overpowered for exactly that reason - not everyone's supposed to have one. Now, 'thanks' to duping, anyone who hunts keys for a couple of hours can make one. That's not the way it's supposed to be. If Blizzard wanted everyone to have these items, they would set it up so every time you make a character, it comes pre-inventoried with a Last Wish, an Enigma, et al.

The rune drops are the way they are because that's the way the game's rune drops were intended to be. Dupers made the game a lot easier, but they ruined the best intentions of the people who put their time and effort into building this game. I'm sure the people who worked for hours to code the drop percentages still have sweet dreams of tracking down and flogging dupers/hackers mercilessly. I know I would.

I hope some of the people here who have made 100% self-found/legit LWs and Griefs and Enigmas will respond to this, just to show that it's not impossible. It's incredibly difficult, but that's the way it was designed to be. :thumbsup:

...I've decided to bold a few parts of this. Maybe then it'll finally sink in?
 
Funny how Blizzard is against duping, then makes runewords that clearly would be impossible without it.....hmmmmm??

I don't dupe myself and never have through the years, but I have NO PROBLEM trading for a rune I am 99% sure is a dupe (IE: VEX+) and making a cool runeword withit.

BTW...I made 4 LastWish's before the reset....I'm gonna be rich NL =D


EDIT: Since Lastwish is a ladder-only runeword, and the ladder is supposed to only go on for 6 months, how can a legit LW be made? Impossible.
 
I agree with blizz making the odds of getting high runes better, however i DO NOT agree that duping is a good thing wtf.
 
Haha, yeah, I noticed that, Dracoy. Both within a couple of minutes of each other.

And I wouldn't really MIND getting rid of some of the overpowered runewords... but don't tease us with them: Making like 20 overpowered/interesting items all consisting of four things that are once in a lifetime drops. Seriously, what the hell?
 
I agree that Blizzard has inadvertently encouraged people to dupe. Not, just runes, but soj's to spawn dclone for anni's.
Nonetheless, lagging a whole server and every game on it just for your own personal benefit is pure selfishness.
So regardless of the fact that I like having high end runewords and high stat anni's, duping is still a bad thing. I'd rather have budget gear and a lag free server.
 
I agree that the odds are stupid on the higher runes. But realistically all the godlike gear makes the game too easy. It's ridiculous for every character in the game to have an Enigma, or to have everyone doing 30K damage.

So, the problem is that everyone insists on having removing any challenge from the game. Remember the first time you killed Baal? For me it was friggin' hard. Now I can solo him every few minutes.

Duping is bad, but so is the Bnet culture that values bling gear over real playing ability. :soapbox:
 
Duping doesn't make people quit.

The overpowered runewords make people quit.

I got another thign to add to my long post.
 
I agree that Last Wishes, Enigmas, etc. aren't supposed to be a dime a dozen. But if there was no duping, no one would ever make any of these items. Even if you were somehow lucky enough to find the runes for Last Wish (after several years of playing, most likely), the runes would be so valuable that no one would ever use them to make one item. The rune drop percentages do need to be increased and increased a lot. I agree with OP.
 
The 'Last Wish' runeword is insanely overpowered for exactly that reason - not everyone's supposed to have one.

Going by strict odds, not anyone is supposed to have one. Do you really know how ridiculously difficult it would be to get those runes legitimately?

I'm not saying the high runes should be super common... I'm just saying that maybe instead of 1:10000000 they should be 1:10000 in a drop. That's still pretty damn rare, but it allows people to feasibly make one with a lot of effort put in.
 
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