importpsycho
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Windforce or upd Buriza
which would do more damage?
which would do more damage?
Firey_chasm said:I dont know the exact numbers since I have never owned an upped buriza lol but wf owns, and I think that most ppl prefer wf for the following reasons
1. faster
2. I think the damage is quite similar
3. upped buri needs 163 str I think it needs about 140 with hel in while wf only requires 134 and you can then stick a 40/15 jewel in or ohm
4. wf has knockback
Although upped buri has sum cold damage there are better bows out there to have on switch to deal with physical immunes.
I cant pretend ime an expert on this topic though, so i wouldnt mind someone telling me if ime right or wrong lol :\
importpsycho said:which would do more damage?
Cambylobacter said:then it has changed
*pats his Buriza, Colossus Crossbow*
Not sure I agree with that. One of the biggest things that made Buriza so powerful in 1.09 was the 100% pierce. Since guided arrows can't pierce in 1.10, I'd say that even an upgraded Buriza isn't all that wonderful. Compare it to a WF for instance. The average damage is about the same. Buriza has nice cold damage, but WF has KB and ML. And as always, crossbows are incredibly slow. Plus a colossus xbow takes 163 strength to equip. Sure a Buriza colossus crossbow is a great weapon, but it's not as overpowered as some people make it sound.nebby said:Well, no offense, but I'd have to say that's a shame then. The buriza was already over-powered, which was why they left it out of the upgrade path in the beta.
Broncobiv2 said:Not sure I agree with that. One of the biggest things that made Buriza so powerful in 1.09 was the 100% pierce. Since guided arrows can't pierce in 1.10, I'd say that even an upgraded Buriza isn't all that wonderful. Compare it to a WF for instance. The average damage is about the same. Buriza has nice cold damage, but WF has KB and ML. And as always, crossbows are incredibly slow. Plus a colossus xbow takes 163 strength to equip. Sure a Buriza colossus crossbow is a great weapon, but it's not as overpowered as some people make it sound.
Cambylobacter said:Oh, and to be fair, I've found about 6 Buriza's but never even seen a Windforce. Isn't WF way rarer than Buriza?
I mentioned the 100% pierce on Buriza, and I said that it wasn't as helpful anymore because Guided can no longer pierce. Now pierce will obviously help with something like Freezing Arrow, but again, Buriza is too slow to be truly efficient with that.Boooyakasha said:One advantage of Buriza has been missed out. It has 100% Pierce. So if you have decided the end game equipment with Buriza you can completely ignore the Pierce skill and use it in something else. Buriza also +35 DEX which effectively +35% more to your bow damage.
This is the best bow a hybrid zon can have. You can get pass with 5 point in Pierce and do not need to worry about the Pierce % when switch to Bow attack. The slower frame attack is actually better to use to clean up the remaining monsters with Strafe after a few round of fury, while the fast speed bow will lose out half of it Strafe arrows as the Next-Delay thing kick in. But the most important of all is the availability of it![]()
Broncobiv2 said:BotD has 20% more IAS than a Shaeled WF, but that isn't a big deal because you can hit the last breakpoint fairly easily with either 40% or 60% IAS. Based purely on damage, a WF on a high level character kills a BotD hydra.
Broncobiv2 said:As far as strafe goes, unless you can somehow scrounge up 215% IAS (possible, but not preferable), each arrow of strafe is going to be shot at 3.5 frames. Compare that to 3 frames, or 2 a lot of the time, for bows, and you'll see that Buriza is a really bad idea for strafe.
And I'm not really sure what you mean by the Next-Delay thing, so I can't comment on that.