DurfBarian
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I for one am glad this thread was reported. It's filled with atrocious punctuation errors.
Vega, DX and aman's Dark Project =D
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kabal said:I don't think it's cheesy, but that's a different argument for a different time and place.
IMO the best way to do this would be a two man team, with one person playing the rusher and the other person playing the 7 mules via a modified .dll file or fast user switching. Anyone who's done much self-rushing knows that you lose a lot of time just switching between the rusher and mules, but with two players you can multi-task (when one player is moving the mules around, the rusher is clearing out the next area). For teams larger than two people you'd only get a marginal increase in speed, but you'll also have to split the rewards more ways.
If you guys get another person, I think it would be best to split into two teams of two and do what I outlined. Since you're doing this in classic, you might as well gamble a dozen or so SoJ's while you're at it.
SoJ gambling was only possibly in pre-lod. With a 3% chance of getting uniques at gambling, it took roughly 1,5 million gold per SoJ, when your character was equipped with Nagelring and Manald Heal. I've got my first SoJ in v1.06, and I will most likely get more, they won't be converted though :teeth:
Anyway, GG runephr33kzZ, I guess I should take back that equipment, DX? :lol:
nebux said:
Well let me tell you a little something, nebux, my friend- true, when you just hear about it out of the blue, even the word "modified" in "modified dll" is enough to make you think it's something not quite so legit, but let me tell you, way before doc and his ingenious ATMA creation, that was the only way to mule in SP! Yes, you've heard me! If you didn't want to have to rely on the "kind people" of open bnet to host a game up for you to swich your items between your chars, the dll was the only known and legit way of muling, and let me tell you- everybody did it, and if you were playing back then, you'd be doing it too.
The modified dll aint more cheating than ATMA is.
DX-Crawler
Banned
Corrupted said:
Noooooooooo, it would be impossible to do it nekkid :lol:
DX
Kefir-Tribe1
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I was one of the members who reported this thread. I want to point out that it had nothing to do with the subject of the thread (HF rushing). What I reacted on was the opening sentences of post #1 by Lord_Vega. No matter what the intension* may be, asking people not to post their opinions is not a pretty thing to do (just like AE pointed out in his post).
I know it's not against the forum rules but I wanted the mods to have a look at it.
As for the subject, I have no problems with people doing HF rushes though I don't do them myself. Reason being I think it's very cheesy (mostly the going back in version thing).
Footnote
* I understand that Lord_Vega’s intention only was to try to keep the thread away from ending up in flaming.
edit: Forgot to mention. I wish you good luck with your project.
I know it's not against the forum rules but I wanted the mods to have a look at it.
As for the subject, I have no problems with people doing HF rushes though I don't do them myself. Reason being I think it's very cheesy (mostly the going back in version thing).
Footnote
* I understand that Lord_Vega’s intention only was to try to keep the thread away from ending up in flaming.
edit: Forgot to mention. I wish you good luck with your project.
Kefir-Tribe, nothing personal at all as I honestly think you're a good person and never had anything bad I could say about you, but... give me a break.
I think that people here have become spoiled to the level that they don't even know anymore what the reporting utility actually is for! For god's sake, we are having it so good these days (and yes, huge kudos go to the moderators for it) that instead of being happy about you, you go ahead and look for something wrong?
That is just being petty if you ask me, and eventhough I appreciate your courage and honesty about coming out with saying it was you that reported it, I think it was totally useless and as I said petty to the point of childish.
I think that people here have become spoiled to the level that they don't even know anymore what the reporting utility actually is for! For god's sake, we are having it so good these days (and yes, huge kudos go to the moderators for it) that instead of being happy about you, you go ahead and look for something wrong?
That is just being petty if you ask me, and eventhough I appreciate your courage and honesty about coming out with saying it was you that reported it, I think it was totally useless and as I said petty to the point of childish.
Kefir-Tribe1
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No offence taken. I consider you a good guy too. Though I agree with what AE wrote in his first post, I wish I just had posted my thoughts right of, considering how this discussion ended up.
Obviously I don't.Lord_Vega said:
Cattleya
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Ah, you see, the problem with the opening post is that it was just asking for trouble. (No, I didn't report it. I tend to only report issues that affect trade/MP/giveaways.) I don't think the problem was intention, only the wording. If you had said something like "I know that people have different opinions about HF rushing, but I would ask everyone to stay on the topic of this thread" I don't think it would have gotten anyone riled up. (And then you might even get mod backup if people did start drifting OT into debate territory.) It's amazing how weird people can get just over how something is worded. 
Good luck with your project. I wouldn't have the patience for it. I would be interested to see the final statistics when you guys finish up.
Good luck with your project. I wouldn't have the patience for it.
I would be interested to see the final statistics when you guys finish up.Kefir-Tribe said:
No hard feelings whatsoever man
Yeah, it made my blood boil for a sec, but hey, no harm done, so why not simply give you a good kick in the shin and call it even?
*Attempts to kick Kefir-Tribe in the shin*
*Misses, hitting the family j00lz*
err.... my bad
Lord_Vega said:
Personally, I never used the modified dll, for two reasons. First (and most importantly) I didn't know about it. Second, my computer then wouldn't have been able to handle that. The second is also why I never played online, it just didn't run well enough. Had ATMA been available then, I would have gladly used it.
Lord_Vega said:
Agreed.
Now, as for this project of yours. While not MY preferred way of going about it, that's not the issue. This is a game, and if you are enjoying it, then that's what is most important. As far as I can see, everything you are doing (except maybe asking people not to post certain ideas) is completely within the rules and guidelines of this community as well. Yes, I can agree that negative posts can be just a lot of clutter and annoyance, and lead to flame wars, etc. But they are valid opinions on the matter, and as long as they remain civil, should not be completely ignored.
Anyway, back to the topic of the thread. Good luck with your project, and have fun. Hopefully, you'll get your runes before you go insane or get tired of the project.
Kefir-Tribe1
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hehehe, I've just imbued my underwear with the runeword sto...Lord_Vega said:
.. heh... that might not be appropriate 
.Sto... :lol:
Alright, let me clear this up once and for all.
Right before deciding on this project together with DX and aman, we've all read the last few threads on the subject, a couple of them by Rag, and another by someone else (forgive me for not remembering the name right now).
In any case, in the mjority of the threads, people who've been more verbal about their disliking on this matter, even as far as calling it cheating, have gotten "flamed", even if mildly, as to the extent of getting their feelings hurt, and by this I can give the example of Shags.
Now, all I meant and wanted actually came in good spirit, and the whole point was not to start another one of those "falme" threads, as I didn't want people like Shags to get their feelings hurt.
It's truly ironic that by actually wanting to protect these fellow forumites, and not shut them up as some of you might've taken it, I've managed to get people to actually report my thread as if people don't know I've been here for like 5 years... ironic, a little sad, but hey, cest la vie.
We've all learned to see that this place doesn't always make alot of sense when it comes to rules (...) but hey- most of us stick to this place as it's just... home
In any case, if you wanted to give me a hard time over English not being my native language, you've made it
Sorry for not having been understood properly.
Tomorrow we will post some new finds, as we are ahead of at least 2-3 more full rushes! ^^
Alright, let me clear this up once and for all.
Right before deciding on this project together with DX and aman, we've all read the last few threads on the subject, a couple of them by Rag, and another by someone else (forgive me for not remembering the name right now).
In any case, in the mjority of the threads, people who've been more verbal about their disliking on this matter, even as far as calling it cheating, have gotten "flamed", even if mildly, as to the extent of getting their feelings hurt, and by this I can give the example of Shags.
Now, all I meant and wanted actually came in good spirit, and the whole point was not to start another one of those "falme" threads, as I didn't want people like Shags to get their feelings hurt.
It's truly ironic that by actually wanting to protect these fellow forumites, and not shut them up as some of you might've taken it, I've managed to get people to actually report my thread as if people don't know I've been here for like 5 years... ironic, a little sad, but hey, cest la vie.
We've all learned to see that this place doesn't always make alot of sense when it comes to rules (...) but hey- most of us stick to this place as it's just... home
In any case, if you wanted to give me a hard time over English not being my native language, you've made it
Sorry for not having been understood properly.
Tomorrow we will post some new finds, as we are ahead of at least 2-3 more full rushes! ^^
Sorry to go a little off topic but i just had a question about the rushing process. If i wanted to host a game and join it with other D2 instances, would it matter that other people cant join my games? I dont think my computer would block itself from connecting to itself...but who knows
Dunedain said:
I wouldn't suppose you'd have problems "conneting to yourself" as the IP on both "computers" is the same, so I do beliee it should work just fine.
As for us, here is a little update, after doing another two full rushes today (7 chars x2):
1 KO
3 MAL
3 PUL
2 GUL
2 IST
3 LUM
3 UM
1 LEM
3 HEL
1 IO
1 SHAEL
1 DOL
4 FAL
I guess Rag was right, as is you get one, or the worth of one Gul rune per full rush (7 chars).
After some cubing, this places us way over halfway to the first Lo, with us having an Ohm already! :clap:
I wouldn't want to post the whole content of the entire "VegaAmanDX" stash, because it has way too many Hel's and such, but the important runes are something like this:
Ohm
Gul
Ist
Mal x6
Pul x7
And of course, tons of Lem/Ko/Lum/Fal....
In any case, I think we're doing quite fine, and should put together the first Lo in the following couple of weeks or so! :thumbsup:
Aman, because you suck and never actually take part in the runs, you are the las to get your rune, which just might turn out to be a Ohm instead of a Lo
P.S- not to beg or anything, but if anyone has spare flawed/normal gems rotting in their stashes, this is the time to trade them off to the Vegameister ^^
Dunedain said:
Do I?
My gmail box seems pretty empty to me
Btw, I just realized that if we net another Gul tonight (2 more rushes planned for tonight with DX), we will be able to put together the first Lo! :clap:
1 Ohm
1 Vex
1 Gul
1 Um
6 Pul
Add one more Gul and you get Gul+Gul+Vex+Ohm= Lo! :clap:
edit: reading and replying to your pm now.
LADIES AND GENTS! I AM HEREBY PROUD TO PRESENT YOU WITH:
Lo Rune
Can be Inserted into Socketed Items
Weapons: 20% Deadly Strike
Helms: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Armor: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Shields: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Required Level: 59
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
:clap:
Took us quite a few runs (can't really remember, but it surely wasnt more than ~84 runs (~12 full rushes) but this was worth all the boredom and headache!
I have indeed promised th first Lo rune to DX, for he was the rusher and worked (and will work still) the hardest, but I simply couldnt bring myself to actually own the rune, and not use it... that is me, and DX and aman knew it, entering this, so....
....
....
....
Fortitude
Archon Plate
'ElSolDolLo'
Defense: 1554
Durability: 58 of 60
Required Strength: 103
Required Level: 63
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 84
Fingerprint: 0x3cc680b3
+200% Enhanced Defense
+300% Enhanced Damage
+15 Defense
Damage Reduced by 7
Fire Resist +26%
Lightning Resist +26%
+5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Cold Resist +26%
Poison Resist +26%
Replenish Life +7
+1 to Light Radius
25% Faster Cast Rate
12% Damage Taken Goes to Mana
20% Chance to cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when struck
+104 to Life (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (4: 4 used)
Ain't it a beaut? ^^
DX, I know this ain't the superior Archon you planned for it, but if you're really unhappy with it, you can wait for the 2nd Lo (hopefuly, without too many bad feelings ^^). If you like it though, it's yours to have, as I have promised you to be the first to get the Lo.
Anyways peeps, been a long day with 4 full rushes, so I'm heading to bed, feeling totally legit and satisfied
Edit- forgot to update that we now stand at this rune count:
Gul
Mal
Pul
Lems/Kos/Fals etc.
Lo Rune
Can be Inserted into Socketed Items
Weapons: 20% Deadly Strike
Helms: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Armor: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Shields: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Required Level: 59
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
:clap:
Took us quite a few runs (can't really remember, but it surely wasnt more than ~84 runs (~12 full rushes) but this was worth all the boredom and headache!
I have indeed promised th first Lo rune to DX, for he was the rusher and worked (and will work still) the hardest, but I simply couldnt bring myself to actually own the rune, and not use it... that is me, and DX and aman knew it, entering this, so....
....
....
....
Fortitude
Archon Plate
'ElSolDolLo'
Defense: 1554
Durability: 58 of 60
Required Strength: 103
Required Level: 63
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 84
Fingerprint: 0x3cc680b3
+200% Enhanced Defense
+300% Enhanced Damage
+15 Defense
Damage Reduced by 7
Fire Resist +26%
Lightning Resist +26%
+5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Cold Resist +26%
Poison Resist +26%
Replenish Life +7
+1 to Light Radius
25% Faster Cast Rate
12% Damage Taken Goes to Mana
20% Chance to cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when struck
+104 to Life (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (4: 4 used)
Ain't it a beaut? ^^
DX, I know this ain't the superior Archon you planned for it, but if you're really unhappy with it, you can wait for the 2nd Lo (hopefuly, without too many bad feelings ^^). If you like it though, it's yours to have, as I have promised you to be the first to get the Lo.
Anyways peeps, been a long day with 4 full rushes, so I'm heading to bed, feeling totally legit and satisfied
Edit- forgot to update that we now stand at this rune count:
Gul
Mal
Pul
Lems/Kos/Fals etc.
FodderCannoned
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Lord_Vega said:
that one is nice, you never know when you are going to roll one that has a resistance in the low 20's. Good luck making the other 2.
