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Wooh closing in on the 2:nd Lo
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I completed my first set of rushes.
Hell:
3x Mal
2x Ko
1x Fal
1x Hel
NM:
1x Um
1x Lem
1x Lum
2x Ko
1x Shael
1x Sol
Took me quite some time to do it(about 1:45-2:00). I did this in 1.09 expansion. Sure i have to kill baal, but I believe being able to use a shako, occy, lidless and vipermagi will make up for it. Found a razorswitch from NM meph, one less skill than my rare staff but the +50 resist and yum, 175 mana, compensate for it.
Ill do some hell mephing before i get back to rushing. Hell duriel was REALLY rough with 8 ppl. He was all over the place with charge, and my firewall isnt up to par yet.
Hell:
3x Mal
2x Ko
1x Fal
1x Hel
NM:
1x Um
1x Lem
1x Lum
2x Ko
1x Shael
1x Sol
Took me quite some time to do it(about 1:45-2:00). I did this in 1.09 expansion. Sure i have to kill baal, but I believe being able to use a shako, occy, lidless and vipermagi will make up for it. Found a razorswitch from NM meph, one less skill than my rare staff but the +50 resist and yum, 175 mana, compensate for it.
Ill do some hell mephing before i get back to rushing. Hell duriel was REALLY rough with 8 ppl. He was all over the place with charge, and my firewall isnt up to par yet.
Quite dissapointing results, Dune, but don't let it get to you- sometimes you just get drops that make you want to kick the monitor, but hey, the other times when you get 2 guls, 1 ist and like 3 ums from a single 7 char rush definitely make up for it 
Also, I am very impressed with your time! 2 hours per full rush when doing it yourself is definitely nice, and if I can get to that speed myself, I will be darn pleased!
As for me, DX has been "helping" me put together a rusher sorc of my own (classic) and she's level 35 so far iirc.
Today we will do more leveling up for my sorc, and probably a couple more HF rushes with his rusher sorc, to get a little closer to that 2nd Lo.
Good luck to all the rune hunters! :clap:
Also, I am very impressed with your time! 2 hours per full rush when doing it yourself is definitely nice, and if I can get to that speed myself, I will be darn pleased!
As for me, DX has been "helping" me put together a rusher sorc of my own (classic) and she's level 35 so far iirc.
Today we will do more leveling up for my sorc, and probably a couple more HF rushes with his rusher sorc, to get a little closer to that 2nd Lo.
Good luck to all the rune hunters! :clap:
Asmodeous1
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despicable!
I have now added all three of your names to my list of known despicable persons....Oh wait, your names are already there!
Seriously, congrats to you for banding together for a HF rushing pact or sorts.
Personally, I have a problem with what you are doing. I have nothing against people doing what they can with the game in game. if the game allows it, then it is a legit practice imho so there is nothing wrong with "rushing" a character up to the hell forge quest with another character. You could do it on a home lan, over the internet, nothing in the game stopping you.
But, I think it is a bit cheesy doing this in classic. Classic is far easier for rushing as you pointed out and well know, but I think it is pretty cheesy using the easier "rushability" of a far older patch version which is how old, 4 years now? for runes you are going to use in the current game version.
Honestly If it was myself, I would take the extra time and effort of doing this in v1.10 or V1.11, which ever version you intend to make these rune words. When you take all things into consideration, the extra time it would take to do this in v1.11 would not be that much more and far less cheesy, imho.
Has anybody ever done this in v1.11 and worked out an average time per rush compared to the times it's taking Veg's, Dox and aman?
I have now added all three of your names to my list of known despicable persons....Oh wait, your names are already there!
Seriously, congrats to you for banding together for a HF rushing pact or sorts.
Personally, I have a problem with what you are doing. I have nothing against people doing what they can with the game in game. if the game allows it, then it is a legit practice imho so there is nothing wrong with "rushing" a character up to the hell forge quest with another character. You could do it on a home lan, over the internet, nothing in the game stopping you.
But, I think it is a bit cheesy doing this in classic. Classic is far easier for rushing as you pointed out and well know, but I think it is pretty cheesy using the easier "rushability" of a far older patch version which is how old, 4 years now? for runes you are going to use in the current game version.
Honestly If it was myself, I would take the extra time and effort of doing this in v1.10 or V1.11, which ever version you intend to make these rune words. When you take all things into consideration, the extra time it would take to do this in v1.11 would not be that much more and far less cheesy, imho.
Has anybody ever done this in v1.11 and worked out an average time per rush compared to the times it's taking Veg's, Dox and aman?
Hey Asmodeous 
Well, first of all, the so called "cheeze factor" doesn't apply here, because neither of us really feels there is anything at all on our conscience. Yeah, that is the kind of low-life b*st*rds we are...
As for your suggestion, let me put it this way: so we've have to work countless times harder, spend up to 10 times as much time on it (ancients restriction), and get the same result in the end, plus a little so called respect from some of the more extreme purists out there? With all due respect, and you know I have tons of it for you, and many other
No thank you.
Well, first of all, the so called "cheeze factor" doesn't apply here, because neither of us really feels there is anything at all on our conscience. Yeah, that is the kind of low-life b*st*rds we are...
As for your suggestion, let me put it this way: so we've have to work countless times harder, spend up to 10 times as much time on it (ancients restriction), and get the same result in the end, plus a little so called respect from some of the more extreme purists out there? With all due respect, and you know I have tons of it for you, and many other
No thank you.
I don't think the results are that bad. I did 1K countess runs and got less of a result so uh... Im fine with this,
I don't think anyone would think of us as less cheesy if we did it in 1.11. If someone wouldn't MP with me cuz i do HF rushes in 1.09, they wouldn't think much more of me if i did it in 1.11.
I did my first instances of rushing on bnet, classic 1.11. The increase in time to do the actual rush is minimal, just moving the mules around a little more, but the patch itself is considerably harder. Monsters have more life, more resistances...you get the point.Asmodeous said:
I don't think anyone would think of us as less cheesy if we did it in 1.11. If someone wouldn't MP with me cuz i do HF rushes in 1.09, they wouldn't think much more of me if i did it in 1.11.
Asmodeous1
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Lord_Vega said:Hey Asmodeous
Well, first of all, the so called "cheeze factor" doesn't apply here, because neither of us really feels there is anything at all on our conscience. Yeah, that is the kind of low-life b*st*rds we are...
I was in the middle of editing my post, as I wanted to add in that this is my opinion, by my standards. Im sure that if we had some d2 item legitness witch hunt tribunal thingy on this, im sure they would find what you are doing to be legit, and as you put it, your happy with your own conscience then there is nothing wrong with it. I guess I am still trying too hard to be seen as legit by setting my own standard shy high, keeping in mind my back ground, I guess it is expected of me.
I should also point out, that back in v1.09, I used to rush PvP characters for people on my home lan. They got the character at about level 80 with all skill and stat points unallocated, as as my "payment" for the service, I got to keep all finds including hell forge rune drops.
As for your suggestion, let me put it this way: so we've have to work countless times harder, spend up to 10 times as much time on it (ancients restriction), and get the same result in the end, plus a little so called respect from some of the more extreme purists out there? With all due respect, and you know I have tons of it for you, and many other
No thank you.
Good point. Any idea how long each rush to hell HF is taking you? It would be good to compare the times.
Asmodeous said:
Well, since I've done 100% of my HF rushes together with DX so far (only now starting to work on my own rusher, as I am greedy and want a 2nd LO all for myself
), they have been going quite fast.Our first initial attempt was, as expected, terribly slow and fully of mistakes. Losing the cube \ losting the staff \ dying too much\ chars dropping... you get the idea. Took us a good, hefty 2 hours and 40 mins I think.
Since then, we've only gotten better and better, and I can now proudly say that we can do a full rush in just under one hour. Talking about 57-59 mins here
Asmodeous1
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An hour? I guess two hours, but taking into consideration the experience of the players involved here, it isn't surprising that you have worked out a routine now.
Has anybody mentioned the "Z" word yet? if your producing Lo runes this quickly, then a "Z" is actually worth comtemplating!
Has anybody mentioned the "Z" word yet? if your producing Lo runes this quickly, then a "Z" is actually worth comtemplating!
Asmodeous said:An hour? I guess two hours, but taking into consideration the experience of the players involved here, it isn't surprising that you have worked out a routine now.
Has anybody mentioned the "Z" word yet? if your producing Lo runes this quickly, then a "Z" is actually worth comtemplating!
Well, thanks for the compliment
and as you may recall, I've already owned a "Z" way back, but that is not quite on topic here I believe that if we were to put a couple of months with doing extensive HF rushes only, we could do it, but cubing up to anything higher than Lo-Sur seems quite a long process to me, and hey- I am completely satisfied with Grief for now, no need for botd...
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My issue with this type of rushing is going from classic to 1.10 ... the minimum level to kill the ancients was added at the same time as the Hellforge rune drop, right? Seems to me that they were added together for a reason (or am I mistaken here?).
Still, its every bit as legit as RWM in SP, or ATMA. So I hold nothing against anybody who does this (aside from, perhaps, envy for all the leet runes :uhhuh.
Still, its every bit as legit as RWM in SP, or ATMA. So I hold nothing against anybody who does this (aside from, perhaps, envy for all the leet runes :uhhuh
.Dunedain said:
Much nicer resluts this time around Dune, at least in Hell :thumbsup:
As for me, yesterday night I fininish my very first solo rush (1.09 classic) with my level 60 Telewhore
Man... it sure is a totally different story than doing it with DX. Took me around 50 mins to finidh normal, 50 for nightmare, and around 40 for hell.
Though to be honest, most of the time was about loading and swiching chars, not the actual playing.
Duriel was absolutely AWFULLY tough for my level 60 sorcy, when one charge was enough to kill her (aroun 440 HPs), so it took me way over 8 or 9 attempts to take him down.
Anyways, did only two of my rewards last night, and got a LEM and a PUL from the first two Hell hellforges....
I better get at least one GUL here, or I will feel like this has really been more trouble than it's worth...In either way... 4 GUL's to my Grief... I can do this
Okay, a little update here
Mutual Stash of Runes:
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Lo (used in Fortitude)
Ist
Mal
Ohm
Pul
Um
Results Ofy First Solo HF Rush:
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Dol
Gul
Hel
Io
Ko
Lem
Lum
Pul
Pul
Shael
Sol
Sol
Um
Um
Personal Stash Of Runes:
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Ohm
Um
Plus all the ones mentioned above
As you can tell, I can't say I was very lucky, neither very unlucky with my drops that last run. I got a Gul, but for example, managed to get the lowest possible combination of a SOL in nm and a HEL in hell for one char
Either way, closing up on my personal 2nd Lo, and on DX's Lo as well
Edit: personal stash after ALOT of cubing:
Ohm
Gul
Ist
Um
Another Ist, and I am one Vex (or two Gul's) away from that Lo! Let the hunt for Vex begin, eh Lynkyle? :lol:
Mutual Stash of Runes:
*****************
Lo (used in Fortitude)
Ist
Mal
Ohm
Pul
Um
Results Ofy First Solo HF Rush:
***********************
Dol
Gul
Hel
Io
Ko
Lem
Lum
Pul
Pul
Shael
Sol
Sol
Um
Um
Personal Stash Of Runes:
*******************
Ohm
Um
Plus all the ones mentioned above
As you can tell, I can't say I was very lucky, neither very unlucky with my drops that last run. I got a Gul, but for example, managed to get the lowest possible combination of a SOL in nm and a HEL in hell for one char
Either way, closing up on my personal 2nd Lo, and on DX's Lo as well
Edit: personal stash after ALOT of cubing:
Ohm
Gul
Ist
Um
Another Ist, and I am one Vex (or two Gul's) away from that Lo! Let the hunt for Vex begin, eh Lynkyle? :lol:
Almighty Cow
New member
You know, it's just occurred to me. You guys are going for a Lo, but you could make a detour and pick up enough Ists to last you a lifetime.
