The Truth on how to get the highest runes

Decebal said:
Sounds very viable! Though you must rely on someone must kill baal for quest in each diff to get to NM and hell!

You must have a lot of fiends Gaza! :D
He just said this is done in Classic so no lvl requrement to finish any difficulty (no ancients, no Baal)!
 
Bobo^J said:
He just said this is done in Classic so no lvl requrement to finish any difficulty (no ancients, no Baal)!

U right Bobo! Must have missed that... :p

Surprised that people still play classic... :surprise:
 
Decebal said:
Is then fair that blizz deletes the runes from your items??? If u ask then it's wrong!
It's as with counterfeit money in the real world.

If you are caught with counterfeit money, the police confiscates it and you won't get refunded. Of course, you can demand the money from the source of the counterfeits, but it will be heard to prove that the money comes from it. Oh yes, and if it can be proven that you know about it being counterfeited and you try to buy something for it, even if it's just to get rid of it, you will go into jail - where I live, for 2 years at least.
 
krischan said:
It's as with counterfeit money in the real world.

If you are caught with counterfeit money, the police confiscates it and you won't get refunded. Of course, you can demand the money from the source of the counterfeits, but it will be heard to prove that the money comes from it. Oh yes, and if it can be proven that you know about it being counterfeited and you try to buy something for it, even if it's just to get rid of it, you will go into jail - where I live, for 2 years at least.

Real life and playin diablo are 2 different things...cant say that I agree with your money counterfitting comparison!
 
Decebal said:
Real life and playin diablo are 2 different things...cant say that I agree with your money counterfitting comparison!
Games and real life ARE of course 2 different things. Nevertheless game behaviour in eny times, any cultures and even in eny SPECIES have a very serious function and very strong connection to "real life".
This function is to learn and train skills usefull in the real life - not least social skills.
The connection is that we feel, think and bahave ourselves in similar way in reality and fantasy.
The difference is that gaming is much more safe than life. It is just this relative safety which makes it so appropriate "place" for different experiments and for testing dangerous things.

Killing monsters is a game, it is not real BUT everything we do directly or indirecly against other players - IS real because we are real. If somebodys account gets hacked or a high lvl hc char is killed by a pker using cheats - real people feel gets hurt.

I can´t see anything wrong in Krishan´s analogy.
 
OK, I may have dozed off in the last few posts...

Are high runes rare? Of course.

Is finding them as rare as stated previously? No.

If you just hurry and kill the Countess or Mephisto or Pindle... you'll find that you have a terrible chance of finding high runes. Sure some of these have the best possible rune drops, but what's the use if you only kill them once every couple minutes?

If you go to an area with lots of monsters, and you can kill groups every few seconds, that's so many more chances to find a high rune. I do a few Countess runs now and then (usually to find Amns and Shaels) and never teleport. I walk and kill. And although the best the Countess has ever given me is Ko, I've found 2 Guls and a Vex on the way.

As mentioned before, hell cows is a great place as well. That's because with quite a few character builds, you can clear hundreds of cows in the same time it takes to run and kill the Countess.

As far as cubing up, knowing how useful some high runes are, I'd have a hard time cubing up to the next rune knowing how worthwhile the two runes I already have are.
 
Decebal said:
Real life and playin diablo are 2 different things...cant say that I agree with your money counterfitting comparison!

Well, I do agree with my comparison :) It's not you alone who makes up the rules, neither in the real world nor in bnet.

What aspect of the difference between Diablo and the real world makes you disagree with my comparison ?
 
sangfagel said:
Games and real life ARE of course 2 different things. Nevertheless game behaviour in eny times, any cultures and even in eny SPECIES have a very serious function and very strong connection to "real life".
This function is to learn and train skills usefull in the real life - not least social skills.
The connection is that we feel, think and bahave ourselves in similar way in reality and fantasy.
The difference is that gaming is much more safe than life. It is just this relative safety which makes it so appropriate "place" for different experiments and for testing dangerous things.

Killing monsters is a game, it is not real BUT everything we do directly or indirecly against other players - IS real because we are real. If somebodys account gets hacked or a high lvl hc char is killed by a pker using cheats - real people feel gets hurt.

I can´t see anything wrong in Krishan´s analogy.

i understand what u are saying sangfagel and I surely understand the point made by Krischan!

Though i beg to differ concerning behaviour in games and real life! Now dont get me wrong that i dont try to be nice against other players on the realms! I'm always nice to players who are nice to me and not nice against those who arent! And thats a fact of life! In real life we are nice against people who deserve that! Without prejudice though against people who I dont know! It takes time to learn how people are and how people behave! And thats very simmilar on the realms when playing LOD! Of course that i would like to play together with nice people who dont want to scam me or "steal" my items/drops! So far I can only play the game in that way with 2 -3 people only! And those people are friends! So the keyword is trust! It takes some time to build a trusty relation with someone who u dont know on the realms! And even then u cant be sure! Saw post were people got ripped by so called "trusty" friends when tryin to mule...even that is a good example how things work in life sometimes! People that thougt they were your friends betray you! That is a similarity! (1-0 to Krischan :p )

However my point is that LOD is still a game! So u get scammed u get hacked and lose items and accounts! But heck no LOD aint life! One can always manage life without playin LOD! I do anyway! There are other things in life more worth the time... like women, party and booze!!! :lol:

Cheers
 
I see many people arguing how it's not THAT rare to get a high rune. However, the ratio of high runes dropped to characters completely equipped with godly runewords is ridiculous. I currently own a Hoto, CTA, Enigma, Fortitude and COH. As I stated before, the highest rune I've ever found was a single Gul. I made the Enigma and Hoto myself, but I didn't find the runes to make them, I traded for them.

If I kept playing for some more years I still wouldn't find the appropiate runes to legitimately create all the items I currently own.
 
Gore_Nutling said:
I see many people arguing how it's not THAT rare to get a high rune. However, the ratio of high runes dropped to characters completely equipped with godly runewords is ridiculous. I currently own a Hoto, CTA, Enigma, Fortitude and COH. As I stated before, the highest rune I've ever found was a single Gul. I made the Enigma and Hoto myself, but I didn't find the runes to make them, I traded for them.

If I kept playing for some more years I still wouldn't find the appropiate runes to legitimately create all the items I currently own.

the ratio of highrunes dropped to characters with godly runewords is ridiculous????

What do you mean by that? that suddenly high runes are dropped only cause you have the godly runewords???

Of course u cant find those Hr to make the godly runewords u own at this moment! It's impossible to find ther runes to make all the above listed runewords! Trading for the is another story! Though u must realize that they are not legit! And other people on this forum who own godly runewords (not just one runeword) know this! It's a fact that when trading ists for a HR that rune aint legit! Apart from a very very very few!

And of course Blizz know this as well! They are not ignorant...but creating powerfull runewords the must have realized that mass runeduping will be performed....
 
Decebal said:
the ratio of highrunes dropped to characters with godly runewords is ridiculous????

What do you mean by that? that suddenly high runes are dropped only cause you have the godly runewords???
No, of course that doesn't make sense.

What I mean is that, given the amount of High Runes I have ever found (zero), I should have none of those runewords or a Hoto at most. And I assume everyone is in a very similar situation. Miriads of Bowzon users wearing Faith, Fortitude, and Dream haven't found the high runes required for making these items since they were released a month ago. They probably haven't found even a single one. I'm just stating the ridiculousness of it.
 
With people running 8 bots on as many computers and CD keys as they own or pirated 24/7, you can rest assured a lot more of those runes are "legit" than you give the game credit for.

:)

Sorry folks but I think it's kind of ridiculous to have anything drop that infrequently. It only encourages cheating, BM, and duper elitism. I'll trade ists for a Zod rune I know is duped just to try something out but I try and get by without. Your odds of finding/cubing godly rares are much higher than getting legit runewords and having a godly rare seems like a much more impressive thing than yet another chump with 2 BotD collossus blades.
 
Pherdnut said:
Sorry folks but I think it's kind of ridiculous to have anything drop that infrequently. It only encourages cheating, BM, and duper elitism.


...there is also the idealistic side of the coin.

Please..come with me to a perfect world and see the point no one has mentioned yet.

You and your group of 20 buddies you know through B-net, decide to find the runes to make 1 legit enigma. Well, Ith is pretty much like spitting, sooner or later you'll hit one. Jah and Ber are the problem. So to defeat this, you all make a pact. All runes you find will go to a central place and be cubed until you get the runes you all need. From that moment out, you play together in 'rune games' with 5 players to a game. You kill all the monsters you can and pick up all the runes and other stuff you want. Now, odds of finding a Ber are about (literally) 1 in a million and odds of a Jah are only slightly higher. You all might get lucky and in all those games, you might find one of each..-OR- you will find tons of all the other runes out there and cube them up. I would be willing to bet that all told, maybe two or three months of trying is all it would take.

This however, is in an ideal world.

This is the world Blizzard wants. They have stated a number of times that they want folks to party up and work together. I dont think they wanted to create an enviornment where dumping is encouraged. I think they wanted to push people more into teamwork.

The reality I am afraid, is that it only promotes duping.
 
Rianna said:
A cham rune dropped from a boss in act 5. Had to look twice, couldn't beleive it. Been playing for 4 years on and off. This wast the best rune drop for me by far.

LOL, I have been playing since the first Diablo and this season on second ladder an OHM dropped from Baal's minions. I looked to the ground 3 times saying no way, no way, no way. Picked it up and sure enough the highest rune above a Vex (pit) I have ever found. So there is luck after all. The sad thing is that I did not need the rune but now I look at all the white items on the ground a little closer.

Play on!
 
Phaeax said:
OK, I may have dozed off in the last few posts...

Are high runes rare? Of course.

Is finding them as rare as stated previously? No.

If you just hurry and kill the Countess or Mephisto or Pindle... you'll find that you have a terrible chance of finding high runes. Sure some of these have the best possible rune drops, but what's the use if you only kill them once every couple minutes?

If you go to an area with lots of monsters, and you can kill groups every few seconds, that's so many more chances to find a high rune. I do a few Countess runs now and then (usually to find Amns and Shaels) and never teleport. I walk and kill. And although the best the Countess has ever given me is Ko, I've found 2 Guls and a Vex on the way.

As mentioned before, hell cows is a great place as well. That's because with quite a few character builds, you can clear hundreds of cows in the same time it takes to run and kill the Countess.
That only saves you time, it doesn't alter the drop rates or drop rarities, so it is as rare.

You point is a good one, I'll give you that, because you will find runes much easier just by going through Hell and killing things. Almost every enemy on Hell has a chance of dropping a Zod for instance, and the fact that the highest drop rate is SO low makes the difference between drop rates, from best to worst, rather negligible. Because of that, the difference between fighting the Countess over and over and fighting in the Cow level, independent of the time it takes, is rather the same. Therefore, like you said, when you fight in the Cow level, it's practically like fighting 200 Countess' in terms of the drop rates of runes.

Nevertheless, though, I still reiterate the statistics of the drop rate of the Zod rune:

1 in 15,360,933.

And that's the BEST drop rate, it goes down hill from there.

Fighting Cows will no doubt be better than fighting the Countess over and over, not to mention extra XP and not as boring, but you've still got to kill over 15 million cows, on AVERAGE, in order to get yourself a Zod rune.

I think the numbers speak for themselves.
 
Decebal said:
You lucky son of a gun!!!! :surprise: :clap:

Congratulations on that great find!

hehe i couldn't believe it myself when i saw it, had to blink twice. at first i thought it was one of those rune scepters or rune bows. :P i also started to believe all the pessimism in this thread and the other rune thread in this forum, til my friend inspired me with his story of finding unique rings and ammy's off shenk. i am now 2/3 of the way towards an enigma. :)
 
pneutin said:
hehe i couldn't believe it myself when i saw it, had to blink twice. at first i thought it was one of those rune scepters or rune bows. :P i also started to believe all the pessimism in this thread and the other rune thread in this forum, til my friend inspired me with his story of finding unique rings and ammy's off shenk. i am now 2/3 of the way towards an enigma. :)

In did u are! ;) Now to find that Jah rune! Maybe consider trade for one...if u have the right currency! :howdy:

I guees no one knows when lightning strikes...but if it strikes twice in the same spot I'd say play the lottery this weekend! Who knows maybe lightning can strike 3 times! :lol:
 
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