The 1pt smiter guide to Uber Tristram v 1.0.

sorry 4 interupting your discussion, i jus wanted to ask as i see youre skilled players -->
i currently having zeal paladin lvl90 on ladder.
gear:
*40ed andariels helm
*highlord amuler
*death eth BA
*20IAS 350ed to demons set gloves
*elite pala shield with 119all res
*upped guardians (think dis is useless in tristram)
*raven and carrion rings
*uped string belt
*gore boots
*CTA wit spirit in other hand
currently i have all res 90.
80% deadly strike
65% crushin blow
1900 life with cta (its low, i know)
question, will i be able to do tristram in solo, and what shoud i change in gear. thanks

edit: and i dont know how to fight against phisical imunes :undecided:
edit2: just did it, yeeeeeeeaaaaha. got baba torch, 20res, 16atrib.
did it with smite only. 1 point in it
 
For physical immunes, a few ideas that have been tossed out here include Gimmershred and Azurewrath. Either should be more than enough to suit your PI-killing needs (I personally use Azurewrath and zeal them to death - never had a problem)
 
kingdryland said:
Vengeance is ineffective in my book. It is mana intensive and many physically immune monsters that you would want to face with 1pt vengeance are burning mana too. It is slow and unreliable in a zealot.
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Vengence is completely useless if you are using grief. I don't think it was too bad when I used heaven's light. But then, I use scantuary against undead PI's (which are the ones that usually have mana burn).
 
I've never seen an azurewrath... just looked it up though, and now I see why it'd be good. I'd like to find a weapon to zeal with against phys immunes while cursed with IM. So far, the best choice seems to be a lawbringer in a 3 soc war scepter?

kingdryland, what is your favorite setup for ubers? You left options, but I just wondered what you use. And also, do you switch out gear for doing other organ/key runs, etc...

And if any of you are on US-West ladder, I'd like to see your setup in game.
 
I don't know about kingdryland, but my setup is fairly modest:

Helm - Guillaume's Face (looking for something to socket this with)
Armor - Fortitude Archon (1.0/28 roll)
Weapon - Grief Phase Blade (33/366)
Shield - 4-pdiamond Sacred Rondache (37 base res, so 113 res all)
Gloves - Dracul's Grasp (7/13)
Belt - Credendum
Boots - Gore Rider
Amulet - Rising Sun (looking for a Metalgrid or a good res all blue)
Ring 1 - Raven Frost
Ring 2 - Dwarf Star (looking to upgrade this to a Wisp)

The entire setup should cost you about 3 HR (1 for Fort, 2 for Grief) - everything else is pretty cheap, about an Um combined at most. Before Grief, I used Heaven's Light as a weapon, which costs even less. I can solo the ubers pretty easily now. If you'd like to see my (crappy) EQ, feel free to whisper me - *L337jon.
 
wraith985 said:
I don't know about kingdryland, but my setup is fairly modest:

Helm - Guillaume's Face (looking for something to socket this with)
Armor - Fortitude Archon (1.0/28 roll)
Weapon - Grief Phase Blade (33/366)
Shield - 4-pdiamond Sacred Rondache (37 base res, so 113 res all)
Gloves - Dracul's Grasp (7/13)
Belt - Credendum
Boots - Gore Rider
Amulet - Rising Sun (looking for a Metalgrid or a good res all blue)
Ring 1 - Raven Frost
Ring 2 - Dwarf Star (looking to upgrade this to a Wisp)

The entire setup should cost you about 3 HR (1 for Fort, 2 for Grief) - everything else is pretty cheap, about an Um combined at most. Before Grief, I used Heaven's Light as a weapon, which costs even less. I can solo the ubers pretty easily now. If you'd like to see my (crappy) EQ, feel free to whisper me - *L337jon.
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Why not try Sanctuary? The resists are huge, and you can stack them on top of existing resists on a decent Pally shield, especially if you clear the sockets of that sacred rondache. The runes are relatively inexpensive, and can be acquired through drops (although you're lucky to get a Mal through a drop), and you'll have more resists and defense than you would have through a simple gemmed shield.
 
You'll end up with less resists from sanctuary actually. it varies from 50-70 res all, +37 base if you use that shield you have, so 87-107res all, but then you get other nice mods on top of that, like ED/FHR/+blocking and blocking speed/+20 dex, 7 MDR.......you really don't need much dex investment to get max block with sanctuary+holy shield. Sanctuary is worth it if you can't afford an exile.
 
Actually the only reason not to make sanctuary of his shield is the fact that he can't actually make sanctuary in it,since it is a 4 sock shield.
 
kingdryland said:
Actually the only reason not to make sanctuary of his shield is the fact that he can't actually make sanctuary in it,since it is a 4 sock shield.
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touché.... had not noticed that.
 
Yeah, I know all about Sanctuary - decided that my runes had to go elsewhere, though (Grief and Fort, and now I'm working on Enigma and HOTO for my Hammerdin). I actually got a Mal from the Countess, but I traded it and an Ohm for that Grief. The 113 res shield works ok for me, so Sanctuary isn't a huuuge priority for me right now.

Honestly, I die to Lilith more than I die to the ubers - she has a dirty-*** physical attack, and those blood witches are ANNOYING...
 
I've tried this build with many different setups, but the only that has been viable for me has been one with Exile. Honestly, I don't even see how there CAN be competition vs. Exile. When combined with Fanaticism, it amounts to CONSTANT life tap, so the only time I die is when I'm iron maidened. I don't see how even a shield with 100+ resists can contend with a shield with 40 resists, 50% life steal (essentially) and 4k defense (with its built in defiance aura giving you extra def on all your items.)

I find that massive resists aren't even necessary. I put on Lightsaber before hitting Tristram (to absorb Meph's lightning) and the salvation aura instead of fanat (which totally nullifies his conviction) and I am only slightly slower. Yesterday I was in the very center of Tristram with all 3 ubers plus numerous minions pounding on me, and I wasn't even getting SCRATCHED. I was able to type to a friend in the corner to tell them to come see the conflagration I was sitting in, while smiting, because I knew I wouldn't have to hit a pot or anything.

However, before I sought out an Exile, I was pwned every single time by Lilith, and I was being raked over coals in the Furnace of Pain before I could even reach Izual. Casting life tap with a wand or with Marrowalks is touch-and-go...you really have to be speedy to cast it and get set up to smite before you've gotten killed. the continuous life tap on exile is what keeps me utterly invulnerable to everything but the dreaded iron maiden. I am speedy against minions, and decent (a bit slower than normal, but nothing TOO bad) against ubers.

This is my entire set-up (useast, non ladder [unfortunately!])

Weapon - Stormlash/Lightsaber (LS only for Trist. I used to switch weapons once Meph was dead, but now I don't even bother and I don't see a difference anyway.)
Helm - Guillaume's Face
Armor - Chains of Honor (the LOWEST ap CoH I've ever seen - 714 def!)
Shield - Exile (Sacred Rondache, 42 resist all)
Gloves - Laying of Hands
Boots - Gore Riders
Belt - Nosferatu's Coil
Amulet - Mahim-Oak Curio
Ring1 - Raven Frost
Ring2 - Rare ring with resists

As you can see, besides the exile, my equipment is mostly bargain basement finds. The vast majority of my inventory is filled with charms - a couple that give 30% to resists. My resists are maxed in Hell, up to 80 for a couple of them.
 
Fast life tap from exile is nice,but in tristram all it takes for me is a couple of full rejuves until drac's life tap kicks in. As for lilith,try a stormshield. People think it is her poison that kills,imo it is her huge physical that does the damage. I have exile and sanctuary and sanctuary is my all around favorite.
 
It's never been a question of 100+ Resist Shield vs. Exile. It's a question of 100+ Resist Shield vs. nothing. Not everyone has the runes for Exile, and not everyone has the wealth to acquire them AND a good ethereal four-socket shield to put them in.

EDIT: Lilith's physical attack is flat-out dirty.

EDIT 2: I should clarify my position. The only reason I use a 113-resist Sacred Rondache is because my runes are going to other things (such as an Enigma for my Hammerdin, Grief, Fort, etc.) - otherwise, I'd use a Sanctuary. Once I get better resistance charms, I'll eventually look into getting an Exile - but honestly, it's already pretty easy for me to solo Tristram.
 
kingdryland said:
I hope I'm not misunderstood,exile is excellent choice for ubers,sanctuary is a matter of preference.
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Hi!

Why is not Herald of Zakarum good for ubers? (rather than sanctuary) ?
Which parameter?

Zaka has very good allres, skills block...
ok, no FHR but its not matter... with pdiamond has 69 allres,with rune + 20 FHR...


Hm? :)


Thx!
 
I don't remember seeing a rune that grants 20 fhr in shield. Shael will offer 20 fbr there. Besides that technical issue, hoz is a fine choice for ubers. I just find that it is not optimal as I have explained before in this thread. A griswold shield or a ko ko mal can sport 100+ all resists while an exile can have about ~30 all res less than an umed hoz but it offers fast life tap which I find very handy for trist. If hoz is your choice it is perfectly fine,it works nicely as well.
 
kingdryland said:
I don't remember seeing a rune that grants 20 fhr in shield. Shael will offer 20 fbr there. Besides that technical issue, hoz is a fine choice for ubers. I just find that it is not optimal as I have explained before in this thread. A griswold shield or a ko ko mal can sport 100+ all resists while an exile can have about ~30 all res less than an umed hoz but it offers fast life tap which I find very handy for trist. If hoz is your choice it is perfectly fine,it works nicely as well.
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Yes your right, only FBR :) so sanctuary is better in FHR.. and resist...
Zaka is better in skills which is in some case is better...

For 86 FHR sanctuary might be a must but for 48 it not too much.

But +20 FHR is a very good thing... it depends on your other gear...


1 noob question:

ko ko mal how can give 100+ aLLres? :)

in 30 allres superior shield?? or ??

i cant guess it :)
 
I've been reading through the posts in this thread, and I see that Azurewrath is mentioned only as a means to killing phy immune monsters. But the most useful purpose of this weapon I find to be is the knockback effect of sanctuary. Mephesto can be tanked by just about any drac using smiter (he just simply doesn't use his most devistating attacks that often in close range.) When most experianced paladins die, it is because Mephesto has summoned too many undead mages. But with the sanctuary aura, those mages are paralized more than enough to recover from their damage.

And although this thread is focused around the 1 point smiter in chaos tristam, the issue of how this zealot could push his way quickly though the mini uber lairs is quite a hot topic. I find that the using a zealot, hammeradin, or any type of paladin is far too reckless and time consuming. The greatest weakness in every mini uber lair is that there are too many monsters. A skeli necro with a high level corpse explosion or trap asn with death sentry can plow through these levels at much faster rates. Save the uber prime evil for the 1 point smiter, but collect the organs with exploding corpses.
 
HoboGod said:
I've been reading through the posts in this thread, and I see that Azurewrath is mentioned only as a means to killing phy immune monsters. But the most useful purpose of this weapon I find to be is the knockback effect of sanctuary. Mephesto can be tanked by just about any drac using smiter (he just simply doesn't use his most devistating attacks that often in close range.) When most experianced paladins die, it is because Mephesto has summoned too many undead mages. But with the sanctuary aura, those mages are paralized more than enough to recover from their damage.

And although this thread is focused around the 1 point smiter in chaos tristam, the issue of how this zealot could push his way quickly though the mini uber lairs is quite a hot topic. I find that the using a zealot, hammeradin, or any type of paladin is far too reckless and time consuming. The greatest weakness in every mini uber lair is that there are too many monsters. A skeli necro with a high level corpse explosion or trap asn with death sentry can plow through these levels at much faster rates. Save the uber prime evil for the 1 point smiter, but collect the organs with exploding corpses.
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Great idea The Sanctuary aura :)

With Sanctuary aura the merc can leech a lot of life and kill The minions during killing Mefi :)

How oftend does Knockback effect work? in 1 second? or?

Its very nice idea against Mefi's minions! :))

End if a Holy freeze merc can be alive it is very useful because not you will be the target... but it's a dream maybe :))
 
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