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So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Since we don't have any specific time frame for the reset and patch yet, I've been working on a guide to the CTA. Since I'm not sure the basic precepts of our team will remain intact with the patch I'm posing a question to the masses: would you be interested in doing a last run with this patch?

I'm not 100% on the idea yet, but it seems a shame to let the CTA perfect team fall by the wayside with the patch. On the inverse, I look forward to trying to crack the new patch in time to dominate the ladder but I don't see why the two need to be mutually exclusive. Let me know what you guys think.
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Tai. said:
Since we don't have any specific time frame for the reset and patch yet, I've been working on a guide to the CTA. Since I'm not sure the basic precepts of our team will remain intact with the patch I'm posing a question to the masses: would you be interested in doing a last run with this patch?

I'm not 100% on the idea yet, but it seems a shame to let the CTA perfect team fall by the wayside with the patch. On the inverse, I look forward to trying to crack the new patch in time to dominate the ladder but I don't see why the two need to be mutually exclusive. Let me know what you guys think.
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I'd sure like to join another run.


 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Well as my HC assassin died lastnight :'(
I really have nothing better to do, I would be starting from square one but I would be interested in a run before the ladder reset....
Fill me in on time and place and I will work to lvl my new assassin for the time being :)
I would be availble nights and weekends (damn being a grownup and working)
Let me know cause I am bored out of my mind :)
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

I'm sorry to insult you in such a fashion Chase. I should have known better.

Glad to see you'd be interested as well Mike and darkfear. In the next couple of days if there seems to be enough interest I'll get in touch with the rockstar and we'll put up a thread about possible dates.
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

I think with the start of the new ladder we should try team pvping lol. like a good 8 on 8 pvp match to see who would win lol that would be interesting.....
What does anyone think? I think mass Hardcore PVPing would be cool
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

darkfear said:
I think with the start of the new ladder we should try team pvping lol. like a good 8 on 8 pvp match to see who would win lol that would be interesting.....
What does anyone think? I think mass Hardcore PVPing would be cool
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Well the most you could do is 4v4. 8v8 wouldn't fit into a game.


 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Yeah I thought about that after but I was to lazy to edit it :eek:
Either way I still htink it would be interesting, IMO it would really change the way PVP is done cause you could have tanks and the aoe'rs.....
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Ah ladder reset. Tempting.
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

So did the new CTA die or am I blind and just missed it? I am currently doing another ladder run with some other guys on mondays but I am always willing for more ladder play.
Apperently this thought mihgt have died but if not could someone let me know so that we can have a little fun before the ladder reset?
Otherwise I will see you kids on the otherside when we dominate the new ladder :)
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

The new CTA kind of fell by the wayside, at least with most of the usual folks. Socialism and I have tons on our plates at the moment (him more than I) so, short of some lucky coincidence we wouldn't be making it for a run. Even if the timing were to work for me, he is my primary base for CTA runs - my internet is a bit slow and he has my CD's so I can't start gaming again.

I have a guide that I'll be posting up once Shaharris makes a few final revisions (he knows some of the builds we use better than I) that will at least serve as a template if other people wish to run one.

Cheers
-Tai
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Tai. said:
The new CTA kind of fell by the wayside, at least with most of the usual folks. Socialism and I have tons on our plates at the moment (him more than I) so, short of some lucky coincidence we wouldn't be making it for a run. Even if the timing were to work for me, he is my primary base for CTA runs - my internet is a bit slow and he has my CD's so I can't start gaming again.

I have a guide that I'll be posting up once Shaharris makes a few final revisions (he knows some of the builds we use better than I) that will at least serve as a template if other people wish to run one.

Cheers
-Tai
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Here's the master sheet from the prior successful run :thumbup:
I look forward to a hc sticky of the optimal team setup for hc (well sc too , but meh) ladder rushing. :girly:

It's to bad you guys hate druids, they work so well :crazyeyes:
I can see a summon druid with oak easily replacing the barb. Less surivablity for the porter, but more damage via the druid+ 3-6 summons. (with chant) (phy damage is prob higher then an untwinked barb too)

I will be rushing ladder with or without a group. Hope to find some of my peeps to spend a day doing this with.

If I end up solo'ing this, my goal is to be the first guardian on ladder.





Socialism said:
[highlight]BUILD RUNDOWN[/highlight]
Nobody's assuming you don't know what you're doing; here's what everyone else should look like.

[highlight]1. Static Field / Enchant Sorceress[/highlight]
20 Enchant
20 Fire Mastery
20 Warmth
15 Static Field
15 Teleport

Utility character, makes every attacker useful in Hell with enchant; speeds up entire game with 15 Static Field early on.

+Cowkiller
+Baal glitcher
+Shopper

[highlight]2. BO/Frenzy Barbarian[/highlight]
I don't know, here's a rough outline, really up to taste:

20 Battle Orders
20 Frenzy
06 Double Swing
20 Taunt
20 Mastery

Utility + Damage character, makes everyone safer with Battle Orders. Keeps teleporter alive, has Enchant damage modified by Conviction making him a firedamage powerhouse.

[highlight]3. Zealvictor Paladin[/highlight]
Provides essential auras, absolutely key for ladder domination.

20 Salvation
20 Zeal
20 Holy Shield
20 Conviction

Mandatories:
01 Resist Lightning (to keep us alive Act 2 and 3 normal, Maggot Lair, etc.)
01 Meditation (at level 24, this stays on permanently until we get a Sol rune)
01 Salvation (keeping team alive > faster monster killage)

Essential, essential party support. Firedamage destruction with Conviction and Enchant. Early on, constant switching between Resist Lightning / Meditation / Conviction; this will eventually drum down to Conviction / Salvation.

+ Cowkiller
+ Baal glitcher

[highlight]4. 20 Death Sentry Assassin[/highlight]
Pure / basic Lightning Trapper build:

20 Death Sentry - first
20 Shock Web
20 Charged Bolt Sentry
20 Lightning Sentry
01 all shadow skills except venom

Cakewalker extraordinaire, acts as the group scout all throughout normal. Super-liberal usage of Cloak of Shadows and Mind Blast essential to keeping party alive; will be Burst of Speeding through areas and making sure nobody's being eaten by charging mobs. First down to Throne, spamming MB. Handles all corpse explosion splatter; CE popping + Static Field = group pwn.

+Cowkiller

[highlight]5. LF/CS/MS Amazon[/highlight]
Tai's got the build down pat.

Main MF Char. Will be running with all the MF the party can muster, as this will be our "kept back in normal" Baal glitch MFer. Has a few points in multishot to be useful early on and to nail out lightning immunes in Act 3 hell. ...quite possibly unnecessary given Enchant, though.

Baal kill strategy:
1. Necromancer casts Decrepify, drops Gumby, backs off into a corner
2. Zealvictor hangs tight to apply Conviction
3. Sorceress spams static field until slivered, teleports away
4. Charged Strike kills Baal with ~200 mf (3 ptopaz armor, 2 ptopaz helm, 25 mf gloves, 25 mf boots)
5. Itamz

+Baal Glitcher
+Cowkiller

[highlight]6. Summoner Necromancer[/highlight]
20 Raise Skeleton (first)
20 Skeleton Mastery
20 Raise Mages
01 Revive ++
05 Summon Resist
01 All curses
01 Corpse Explosion

05 Amplify Damage (?)
05 Lower Resist (?)
20 Dim Vision (?)

Built to taste, the core build is above -- LR/DV split may be interesting. Amp early on runs Act 1 FAST. Supertank meat shield provider; more points in revive for endgame? Critical for SF/Enchantress for safe release of Static Fields. Focuses on curses to keep party alive; allowing Trapper to take care of Corpse Explosions.

+Cowkiller

[highlight]07. Orb/TK Sorceress[/highlight]
Primary Baal teleporter. Indestructibuild.

20 Telekinesis
04 Energy shield
20 Frozen Orb
20 Cold Mastery (LAST - we have Conviction)
+-15 Teleport

Love/hate relationship here. Love the speed, hate the god damn repetition. Builds a low-cost teleport FIRST and FAST early on, gets 75% blocking, teleports everything, speeds up everything. Upon reaching near-infini-cast teleportation, affords Energy Shield for the Hell baal Teleport buffer. With Battle Orders, unstoppable teleporting machine. Gets Baal Quest first; makes subsequent Baal games.

[highlight]8. Blizzard Sorceress[/highlight]
Not as sturdy as the Orb/TK sorceress, but dishes out the game's share of cold damage. Backup teleporter.
20 Blizzard
20 Glacial Spike
20 Ice Blast
15 Teleport
20 Cold Mastery (LAST - we have conviction)

Oh, look, it's a Blizzard sorceress. Zzz.
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Tai. said:
Yep, it was an amazing run.

15 hours+ of unmitigated fun.

Shaharris was the best porter on East (note the was) wielding a 35% FCR Spirit, with a 17 Med Insight Merc a 200% ED TGod's and multiple other goodies.

The team was running like clockwork once we got down to just 8 people, for a while we were running with 11 in two groups, which was a bit of a hindrance but the teams worked together amazingly well and everyone benefited.

At the time Shaharris died, to Undead Stygian Dolls and my Lightning Fury we had the top 5 spots on East, CTA members at #7 and #9 and all 11 of us within the top 30, even those who had left hours before :) We had the top two Necros on the Ladder, the top Sorc, Druid, Assn, Paladin, Barbarian and Amazon (I would be passed for top Amazon shortly after quitting)

The screenshots coming later were taken an hour or so after we quit, when Shaharris Marth and I started new characters. That's right folks, 16 hours straight wasn't enough for us.

Overall, probably the best experience I've had in this game. I would do it again in a second but maybe next time I'd check to make sure everyone was clear of the dolls and not just the people I could see.

Cheers
-Tai
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Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

Uh. Let's make out?
 
Re: So yea I figured its that time again (possible ladder reset team thread)

I appreciate the irony:

"Tai's got the build down pat"

"After I killed Shaharris"
 
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