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Shaft vs. Eth Arkaine on defiance merc?
- Thread starter Gog
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Velocifero
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Gog said:I have a shaft and I'm thinking about trading for this 2100 defense arkaine's and I was wondering which would be better, end game vs. A5 hell for example. I'm not sure how defense and DR are applied so I was asking. Thanks
well im not an expert but i think the more def he has the less he actually gets hit. and with shaft, he might get hit more but take less dmg. just do a little testing to figure it out. take him to a place where hes surrounded and see he how long he lasts. a little trial and error is your solution.
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With a Defiance merc, go with Eth Arkaines. The bonus from Defiance gets applied to the base armor, which would mean an Eth Balrog Skin, which would mean INSANE defense. I have a Glad Bane on a Defiance merc and he has around 8k defense. I'd imagine the Valor would put him above 10k. Just give him some leech and he'll be fine.
Also, the FHR and +skills will help a lot (depending on what patch it's from).
Also, the FHR and +skills will help a lot (depending on what patch it's from).
i dont know how long ago it was but i compared upgraded normal shaft vs eth x stone runeword with 2,8k def
it turned that the stonearmor with that def has a little more advantage over the shaft. basicly its like the first reply says. he gets more hits but not so hard.
when i compare 2,1k def with the little dam red on it vs upgraded shaft ~1,5 k def plus damage reduce% i bet the shaft is better and cheaper.
though arcaine has other advantages like the plus skills.
regards Jedi
it turned that the stonearmor with that def has a little more advantage over the shaft. basicly its like the first reply says. he gets more hits but not so hard.
when i compare 2,1k def with the little dam red on it vs upgraded shaft ~1,5 k def plus damage reduce% i bet the shaft is better and cheaper.
though arcaine has other advantages like the plus skills.
regards Jedi
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
AR = Attack Rating of the attacker
DR = Defense Rating of the defender
Alvl = Level of the attacker
Dlvl = Level of the defender
1.Baal in hell is attacking you 100 times and let’s say that for every successful attack he delivers 100 damage. We will use only his physical attacks in to consideration. You have DR = 2100 from arkain’s and you are level Dlvl = 85. Baal has AR = 9850 and he is level Alvl = 99.
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 2100) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 11950 x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 87
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.87 [Chance to Hit %] x 100 [damage per hit]
Total damage = 8700
2. You have DR = 600 from an average shaftstop and you are level Dlvl = 85. Baal has AR = 9850 and he is level Alvl = 99.
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 600) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 10450 x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 95 (it’s 100 but the game has 95 cap)
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.95 [Chance to Hit %] x 100 [damage per hit] x 0.7 [damage reduction per hit]
Total damage = 6650
3. Baal in hell is attacking you 100 times and let’s say that for every successful attack he delivers 100 damage. You have DR = 2100 from arkain’s and you are level Dlvl = 85. Also you have a Act 2 defense merc level 85 and he gives you defiance aura level 18 (3.7 times more defense). Baal has AR = 9850 and he is level Alvl = 99.
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 2100 x 3.7) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 17620 x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 60
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.60 [Chance to Hit %] x 100 [damage per hit]
Total damage = 6000
For this test I used the toughest monster in the game = Baal in hell. Defiance aura from your merc or shout war cry could only override shaftstop.
AR = Attack Rating of the attacker
DR = Defense Rating of the defender
Alvl = Level of the attacker
Dlvl = Level of the defender
1.Baal in hell is attacking you 100 times and let’s say that for every successful attack he delivers 100 damage. We will use only his physical attacks in to consideration. You have DR = 2100 from arkain’s and you are level Dlvl = 85. Baal has AR = 9850 and he is level Alvl = 99.
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 2100) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 11950 x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 87
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.87 [Chance to Hit %] x 100 [damage per hit]
Total damage = 8700
2. You have DR = 600 from an average shaftstop and you are level Dlvl = 85. Baal has AR = 9850 and he is level Alvl = 99.
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 600) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 10450 x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 95 (it’s 100 but the game has 95 cap)
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.95 [Chance to Hit %] x 100 [damage per hit] x 0.7 [damage reduction per hit]
Total damage = 6650
3. Baal in hell is attacking you 100 times and let’s say that for every successful attack he delivers 100 damage. You have DR = 2100 from arkain’s and you are level Dlvl = 85. Also you have a Act 2 defense merc level 85 and he gives you defiance aura level 18 (3.7 times more defense). Baal has AR = 9850 and he is level Alvl = 99.
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 2100 x 3.7) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 17620 x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 60
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.60 [Chance to Hit %] x 100 [damage per hit]
Total damage = 6000
For this test I used the toughest monster in the game = Baal in hell. Defiance aura from your merc or shout war cry could only override shaftstop.
Ah wow I see... that's a VERY good comparison. I can't believe the defiance aura gives such a relatively slight edge with the arkaine's compared to just a plain old shaft stop. Seems like I could just up my Shaft for cheaper + better. Thanks so much for the comparisons!
Up'd shaft (assuming 1000 defense) and with/o defiance
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 1000) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 10850x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 84.4
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.844 [Chance to Hit %] x 70[damage per hit]
Total damage = 5908
Up'd shaft (assuming 1000 defense) and with defiance
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 1000x3.7) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 10850x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 67.55
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.6755 [Chance to Hit %] x 70[damage per hit]
Total damage = 4728.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If only I could get an up'd eth shaft... yielding 4250 total dmg...
Up'd shaft (assuming 1000 defense) and with/o defiance
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 1000) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 10850x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 84.4
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.844 [Chance to Hit %] x 70[damage per hit]
Total damage = 5908
Up'd shaft (assuming 1000 defense) and with defiance
Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / (9850 + 1000x3.7) x 2 x 99 / (99 + 85)
Chance to Hit % = 100 x 9850 / 10850x 2 x 99 / 184
Chance to Hit % = 67.55
Total damage = 100 [attacks] x 0.6755 [Chance to Hit %] x 70[damage per hit]
Total damage = 4728.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If only I could get an up'd eth shaft... yielding 4250 total dmg...
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I have a level 90 zealot (Europe nonladder) with this gear:
-Stormlash with Ohm rune (33% Crushing Blow and 15% chance of static field)
-Duress in Dusk shroud (15% Chance of Crushing Blow and 33% Chance of Open Wounds, +40% Faster Hit Recovery ,~ 1300 def)
-Gore rider (10% Chance Of Open Wounds, 15% Chance Of Crushing Blow and 15% Deadly Strike)
-Guillaume's Face with 14% all res jewel(+30% Faster Hit Recovery, 15% Deadly Strike and 35% Chance of Crushing Blow)
- Dracul's Grasp (25% Chance of Open Wounds,9% Life Stolen Per Hit and 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking)
-Raven frost (+248 To Attack Rating and Cannot Be Frozen)
-Highlord's Wrath (1 To All Skill Levels,20% Increased Attack Speed and 33 % Deadly Strike)
-String of Ears (7% Life Stolen Per Hit, Damage Reduced By 15%)
-Stormshield with Perfect Diamond (Damage Reduced By 35%)
- rare ring (+108 To Attack Rating, 6% Life Stolen Per Hit, 6% Man Stolen Per Hit and some res)
- Inventory with lots of charms with resistance, fast hit recovery, AR and damage
- Def merc level 90 from act 2 with hone sundan (2 x shael and amn), eth rockstopper and eth The Gladiator's Bane. He gives me defiance aura level 18 when activated
total offense: 98% chance of Crushing blow, 68% Chance Of Open Wounds, 63% chance of deadly strike, 15% static field, 4 frames per attack (6.2 attacks per second), damage ~350 – 4500, excellent AR
total defense: all res 75%, physical resistance 50% (maxed), fast hit recovery over 86% which is 4 Hit Recovery Frames (0.16 sec to recover), Cannot Be Frozen, ~20000 def with merc aura when active, 22% Life Stolen Per Hit, 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking
Imagine that you are attacked with 3 groups of hell lords (bosses with minions) at once. I think there is no way a single character could handle them solo especially if all 3 bosses are physically immune and have mana burn and curse. Except for this mighty Paladin. When he casts / triggers Lap Tap there is no way he can die. Try.
Btw: stormlash is the ultimate melee weapon for mass and single destruction. Much better then any BoTD.
I have a level 90 zealot (Europe nonladder) with this gear:
-Stormlash with Ohm rune (33% Crushing Blow and 15% chance of static field)
-Duress in Dusk shroud (15% Chance of Crushing Blow and 33% Chance of Open Wounds, +40% Faster Hit Recovery ,~ 1300 def)
-Gore rider (10% Chance Of Open Wounds, 15% Chance Of Crushing Blow and 15% Deadly Strike)
-Guillaume's Face with 14% all res jewel(+30% Faster Hit Recovery, 15% Deadly Strike and 35% Chance of Crushing Blow)
- Dracul's Grasp (25% Chance of Open Wounds,9% Life Stolen Per Hit and 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking)
-Raven frost (+248 To Attack Rating and Cannot Be Frozen)
-Highlord's Wrath (1 To All Skill Levels,20% Increased Attack Speed and 33 % Deadly Strike)
-String of Ears (7% Life Stolen Per Hit, Damage Reduced By 15%)
-Stormshield with Perfect Diamond (Damage Reduced By 35%)
- rare ring (+108 To Attack Rating, 6% Life Stolen Per Hit, 6% Man Stolen Per Hit and some res)
- Inventory with lots of charms with resistance, fast hit recovery, AR and damage
- Def merc level 90 from act 2 with hone sundan (2 x shael and amn), eth rockstopper and eth The Gladiator's Bane. He gives me defiance aura level 18 when activated
total offense: 98% chance of Crushing blow, 68% Chance Of Open Wounds, 63% chance of deadly strike, 15% static field, 4 frames per attack (6.2 attacks per second), damage ~350 – 4500, excellent AR
total defense: all res 75%, physical resistance 50% (maxed), fast hit recovery over 86% which is 4 Hit Recovery Frames (0.16 sec to recover), Cannot Be Frozen, ~20000 def with merc aura when active, 22% Life Stolen Per Hit, 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking
Imagine that you are attacked with 3 groups of hell lords (bosses with minions) at once. I think there is no way a single character could handle them solo especially if all 3 bosses are physically immune and have mana burn and curse. Except for this mighty Paladin. When he casts / triggers Lap Tap there is no way he can die. Try.
Btw: stormlash is the ultimate melee weapon for mass and single destruction. Much better then any BoTD.
