Returning to the Roots - Mini mafia game
- Thread starter Caluin Graye
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I'm willing to take the chance of going to a 50/50 coinflip tomorrow by lynching you today Goryani. You're too try hard in this game as opposed to your normal behaviour which either means that you're a) mafia or b) frustrated because you're not taken with the level of seriousness you'd like us to take you with. It could be either one, but because honest to God (that I don't believe in) I can't find any certain telltales between the three of you, I'm leaving my vote on you.
Should you really be a VT and get lynched, we'll end up with either me or kegs, most likely me alive tomorrow with Gwaihir and Solar Ice. Then either Gwaihir or SI is the last scum, and I'm afraid they'll vote for eachother and I'm facing the situation of having to choose between the two. Again. Just like in last game. And with my luck I'll probably end up picking wrong. -.-
Should you really be a VT and get lynched, we'll end up with either me or kegs, most likely me alive tomorrow with Gwaihir and Solar Ice. Then either Gwaihir or SI is the last scum, and I'm afraid they'll vote for eachother and I'm facing the situation of having to choose between the two. Again. Just like in last game. And with my luck I'll probably end up picking wrong. -.-
Kestegs
Active member
Could you explain the reasoning of you having to go today instead of tomorrow?
This is the problem when good players are scum, they can be very good at hiding behind what could be townie moves. While you offered reasonable responses for most, I think the case for you is better than the one for SI. The one point I don't think you explained well enough is Point two:
This is the exact contradiction I was talking about.
This is the exact contradiction I was talking about.
Solar Ice
Well-known member
Partially disagree. The only way that you would look unbelievably scummy is if you were unsuccessful in swinging the lynch to a Townie. Had kestegs been lynched like you wanted we would still be in the dark relative to Today. You would have been in relatively little risk of looking scummy because Phillinnicus's alignment would not have been revealed with his lynch. Had you been successful, there would be 2 Mafia, two massive anti -Town votes, LYLO and basically a way for the Mafia to win the game Today via the power of two Mafia votes. Risk vs reward is it worth it? I think that you decided in the affirmative.
Out of all the quotes that you quoted in post 256, you did not quote post 233. You responded to it but did not quote it. I have little doubt that it was intentional, so as to not draw attention to my reply and accusation against you in that quote but still be able to respond to it.
I do not know whether this is what you do as Town but you definitely do something like this as Mafia. For a good example, see the South Park game where you slipped up about knowing that “Ankeli was Bebe Stevens leaving the toilet seat up†in regards to Jcakes’ role and Laarz questioned you about it. You replied but did not quote a more damaging quote.
Very nicely dodged. At best it is irrelevant that your vote did not count and at worst you knew it did not count yet still voted. Why did you feel the need to show everyone that you have voted if you considered yourself to be a part of the train? And worse, long after he was locked.
Caluin Graye
New member
The Elm woke up in a haze. A deep, rumbling Whiiirrrrr resounded somewhere nearby. Elm tried to look around, but found itself bound tightly and laying on its back.
"Good morning!" said Palm.
'Oh, 'ello," replied Elm in a cheery manner. "May I ask what we're doing here? And where 'here' is?"
"Of course! We're in the sawmill. We thought it would be apropos for you to be executed via a gigantic buzz saw, much like how you killed Conifer. 'Tit-for-tat', or so the humans say."
"I see, I see. I must say, that is an excellent way to kill something." Elm noticed it was moving, and was apparently tied to something. "May I also ask what I am tied to?"
"Well, funny story about that. You know all those old, cheesy films where the villain ties a helpless female to a log and sends he to be sliced in half before the hero can come save her? We though we'd do the same."
"Yes," said another voice. Birch, most likely. "But finding a girl, let alone one strong enough to support your weight and still look pretty doing so, proved problematic."
"So we improvised!" continued Palm. "You're strapped to a blow up doll! We had it over-nighted. Totally worth the shipping costs."
Elm blinked, and resigned itself to its fate, welcoming the blissful feeling of the buzzsaw cutting through its head. After all, what would be worse; death, or continuing to live with those idiots?
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Goryani has been lynched! He was a Vanilla Town.
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Night has fallen. You know the drill.
"Good morning!" said Palm.
'Oh, 'ello," replied Elm in a cheery manner. "May I ask what we're doing here? And where 'here' is?"
"Of course! We're in the sawmill. We thought it would be apropos for you to be executed via a gigantic buzz saw, much like how you killed Conifer. 'Tit-for-tat', or so the humans say."
"I see, I see. I must say, that is an excellent way to kill something." Elm noticed it was moving, and was apparently tied to something. "May I also ask what I am tied to?"
"Well, funny story about that. You know all those old, cheesy films where the villain ties a helpless female to a log and sends he to be sliced in half before the hero can come save her? We though we'd do the same."
"Yes," said another voice. Birch, most likely. "But finding a girl, let alone one strong enough to support your weight and still look pretty doing so, proved problematic."
"So we improvised!" continued Palm. "You're strapped to a blow up doll! We had it over-nighted. Totally worth the shipping costs."
Elm blinked, and resigned itself to its fate, welcoming the blissful feeling of the buzzsaw cutting through its head. After all, what would be worse; death, or continuing to live with those idiots?
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Goryani has been lynched! He was a Vanilla Town.
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Night has fallen. You know the drill.
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Caluin Graye
New member
The few surviving trees stood over a stack of papers, with only one story as the head line - "PALM CUT DOWN AND MADE INTO PAPERS!"
"How did one of us get a printing press?" asked one tree.
"Is that really important?" stated another.
"I'm sort of curious too," added the third.
And the trees set unto bickering amongst themselves. Who killed Palm and turned it into a stack of papers? Would the others share this fate too? Just how does a tree operate a bandsaw?! Stay tuned for answers to these questions, and more!
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kestegs has been stumped! He was a Vanilla Town.
Three alive, two votes to lock and lynch. Day ends when a lock happens.
"How did one of us get a printing press?" asked one tree.
"Is that really important?" stated another.
"I'm sort of curious too," added the third.
And the trees set unto bickering amongst themselves. Who killed Palm and turned it into a stack of papers? Would the others share this fate too? Just how does a tree operate a bandsaw?! Stay tuned for answers to these questions, and more!
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kestegs has been stumped! He was a Vanilla Town.
Three alive, two votes to lock and lynch. Day ends when a lock happens.
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Solar Ice
Well-known member
I have one question for Ankeli: How did you know that Goryani was a Vanilla Townie?
Caluin Graye
New member
I'm going to be upset if I have to mod kill all three of you on the final day.
Solar Ice
Well-known member
This is the paragraph that I have a big issue with. You already were acting like the lynch is a deal. Apart from the probable slip, you were *already* planning for Tomorrow, without Goryani not being lynched yet . To me the indications are that you knew that Goryani was Town when you placed and kept your vote on him.
Blah. Like I figured.
Make cases boys.
Make cases boys? Then what? You hammer with the first vote that comes along and win? I think you are too far caught up in your overconfidence and the fact that everyone just let you slide after Phillinnicus' lynch.
This is all a big spectacle to you.
It is easy to read people when you know their alignment beforehand. What better way to hide than to go after the one person that you know is Mafia?
I expected you to say one of two things.
1. You thought that he had claimed previously and made a genuine mistake.
2. You knew because you are the Doc and were unfortunate in the timing your attempted saves.
What I did not expect you to say and what I was trying to test:
3. You are the Mafia rolecop that investigated Goryani sometime in the game and slipped up that you knew that he was a VT.
Your answer confirms that you knew that he did not claim. You had no interest in going after Gwaihir when Goryani was trying to test reactions to him being lynched. And most importantly, you were not voting Goryani because you thought that he was Mafia, your post suggests that you thought he was Town. Which is the exact opposite to what I thought Yesterday and why I was going after Goryani. Massive difference, and the reason that I am voting you Today.
I am not going to let you be the deciding vote. Even though Gwaihir looks like Scum, I think that you are the last one and have been playing us all along.
Gwaihir, if I am wrong, well played if it is you that is last Mafia.
Vote: Ankeli
Blah. Like I figured.
Make cases boys.
This statement just worries me. Makes me feel like a puppet you are trying to make dance.
This does make a lot of sense to me as a possibility. I did not expect that answer either.
So we have Ankeli, who would have had to bus Phil starting Day1, almost as strong of a bus as phar last game.
And then there is SI, who waffled on the Phil lynch right at the end - would an experienced mafia player make a move that would look so scummy? As Gory pointed out, the best move would be to bus Phil at that point, and I would think SI would know that.
Last day play:
Ankeli came out quick for SI, didn't wait to hear from me. Decided before day start from the sound of it. Possible to go off what he saw yesterday, or could just be worried about SI pressure.
SI voted Ankeli after after Ankeli voted. If SI is mafia, it is his only real option. If he is town, he could make a principled vote for me if he thought it was me and hope Ankeli switched before I got around to the thread. Or the vote/response convinced him it was Ankeli.
I guess for me it comes down to this. Phil is a relatively new player, and so I find him less likely to completely bus his partner. And when it came down to it, he put suspicion on Ankeli and agreed with SI.
Ankeli if you bussed Phil from your very fist post, gg and I hate you
.If you are town SI, sorry. I just find it to hard to believe that Ankeli played the bus from Day 1. I ran through every other game in 2012 and saw nothing like that from him. And while this game is different with only 2 mafia, I just don't see it.
Vote: Solar Ice