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OT: The SPF Mafia Game Round Three
- Thread starter skoolbus1
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RevenantsKnight
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Very clear post trying to act like the villiage idiot. Except the villiage idiot wouldn't be quite so obvious about it. This seems to be a cover post. Do with it what you will fellow townsfolk.
Oh, what I say is definitely a cover. Yep. No doubt about it.
...wait, I'm covering a what now? A post? Why would I need to cover a big stick? I think you should have your head checked by a professional. Or maybe I need to have my head checked.
I just don't understand what he's after.
"There are obviously many things which we do not understand, and may never be able to." - Leela, Ship Operations AI, UESC Marathon.
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...Weird remarks - not much, rash stating 100% certainty that muzz isn't doc...
I believe at one point Rash got at least halfway to explaining his reasoning on this fully. I believe it hinges on the fact that he was looking at the time when people were active around the time that the game started. By the time skoolbus posted that he'd only had a pm from the doctor, muzzz hadn't even logged in, so couldn't have checked his pm's and sent a reply by that time.
As far as I can see, this only relies on the idea that Rash hasn't given us false or doctored (hah!) information. The only thing I see that could be even slightly suspicious is his high post count, which you noted. So I'm fairly happy to accept this myself.
jrlafrance
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Oh, what I say is definitely a cover. Yep. No doubt about it.
...wait, I'm covering a what now? A post? Why would I need to cover a big stick? I think you should have your head checked by a professional. Or maybe I need to have my head checked.
"There are obviously many things which we do not understand, and may never be able to." - Leela, Ship Operations AI, UESC Marathon.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do here RK. Either you're playing the role of VI brialliantly, or you're Mafia, and trying not to get voted out...my vote remains unchanged.
This is a broadcast message to the doctor if s/he is reading. Don't bother saving me tonight. I deserve whatever foul tricks the mafia has in store.
WTF? Only the mafia or a townie with a role have any incentive to write something like that. If he's a townie, the mafia could easily target him. The only townie who would want this to happen is the witness.
Ergo, Rash is ... mafia or witness?
If we don't lynch then the only hope we have is that the cop gets lucky and finds mafia (3/22)
For every non-idiot removed, our odds of hitting the idiot increase.
(CDR's quote heavily snipped -- I've only included the statements I want to comment on)
Even if the cop gets lucky in identifying a member of the mafia, (s)he has no easy way to communicate it to the townies. The lynchings have to start, and very soon.
For every non-idiot removed, the chances of the mafia hitting the idiot also increases. All things being equal (although they seldom are, in practice), the idiot's chance is 1/2. For game balance's sake, it should somehow be made 1/3 in future rounds as there are exactly three teams.
Well, I'm agreeing that we're probably better off lynching somebody. And as it stands now, nobody will be lynched. And in 8 hours I will (hopefully) be in bed myself. So, it's time to join the sheep. Baaaaa!
Unvote: GoHabsGo
Vote: RevenantsKnight
Oh, and as for my specific ideas of water_moon's role, I'm thinking that she's either the doctor or a generic townie. She's been leaning a bit towards those in her postings. Maybe the vigilante or one of the masons, but I somehow doubt those. Call it a hunch more than anything else. If she's the village idiot, she's not doing a very good job of it. And if she's mafia, she's hiding it VERY well.
Unvote: GoHabsGo
Vote: RevenantsKnight
Oh, and as for my specific ideas of water_moon's role, I'm thinking that she's either the doctor or a generic townie. She's been leaning a bit towards those in her postings. Maybe the vigilante or one of the masons, but I somehow doubt those. Call it a hunch more than anything else. If she's the village idiot, she's not doing a very good job of it. And if she's mafia, she's hiding it VERY well.
Sir Lister of Smeg
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It's interesting to see that Cygnus and Goltar, who earlier on were opposed to lynching (see posts 87,90, and 108), now suddenly jump on the bandwagon to lynch someone. In one of those posts, Cygnus makes the very valid point of not lynching the village idiot. As it looks now, RevenantsKnight is one of the prime candidates for village idiocy so why all the hurry now to lynch him?
Post 83 is interesting just because one quotes the other there. They seem to justify the mafia's inactivity here and it looks as if it's the mafia justifying there own inactivity.
And to Sitro: I think that RevenantsKnight's role is very well decidable, we just need to wait until the end of the game since then all the roles will be revealed.
Post 83 is interesting just because one quotes the other there. They seem to justify the mafia's inactivity here and it looks as if it's the mafia justifying there own inactivity.
And to Sitro: I think that RevenantsKnight's role is very well decidable, we just need to wait until the end of the game since then all the roles will be revealed.
RevenantsKnight
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Sheep? Ooh, can I be one too? Where do I sign up?
Hahahahaha...
Bunnies would be cooler, but I can live with sheep...
Hahahahaha...
Bunnies would be cooler, but I can live with sheep...
As it looks now, RevenantsKnight is one of the prime candidates for village idiocy so why all the hurry now to lynch him?
If you read back a few pages you'll find an interesting post by w_m (too lazy to look up the number, sorry) explaining the problem this game has with "...but if he knows that you know that..." reasoning. RK might be the VI playing straight, or someone else pretending to be VI to avoid lynching. If we think RK's smart, than we'll assume he'll be pretending, in which case he won't pretend if he's smart.
Catch my drift? Ya gotta cut that cycle somewhere and make up your mind. Mine's decided that RK is probably impersonating.
Sir Lister of Smeg
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If you read back a few pages you'll find an interesting post by w_m (too lazy to look up the number, sorry) explaining the problem this game has with "...but if he knows that you know that..." reasoning. RK might be the VI playing straight, or someone else pretending to be VI to avoid lynching. If we think RK's smart, than we'll assume he'll be pretending, in which case he won't pretend if he's smart.
Catch my drift? Ya gotta cut that cycle somewhere and make up your mind. Mine's decided that RK is probably impersonating.
I get your point. The problem is that, as one of the many resident mathematicians, I do tend to continue thinking into infinities.
Here however is a summing up of the posts by the main contender for lynching today, RevenantsKnight:
His first post this day, 79, was quite innocent, didn't shout that he had any specific role. Then he started behaving more and more suspicious, as if he wants people to think he's mafia. I don't think he's mafia and find it far more likely he's the village idiot. Post 110 was the one with the Russian Roulette, which might well have been a joke in reply to what was written by others about random lynching. Then in 153 he mentioned a mental hospital, which might have been just a pun. In 188 he starts to call for voting and votes Rashiminos (another prime contender for village idiot), after another weird joke. 214 is a comment on it still being day. 231 is him asking about his popularity since many voted for him, with a note on a mental hospital and mathematicians. 242 and he misinterpretates Drixx' words about using village idocy as a cover and a quote in reply to a comment by Brak. 253 and it's already a quite mental comment about sheep.
The feeling I get is that RevenantsKnight is the village idiot, that he started out careful, but started acting more and more suspiciously and mental and in character when he saw that people started thinking he was posing as the village idiot, thinking that by now he might just win the game this first day.
Sir Lister of Smeg
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Since I'm not allowed to edit, I did not yet compare his behaviour in this game with his behaviour in the previous one. It certainly didn't get this weird then.
Sir Lister of Smeg
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Sorry for the triple post.
At the moment I think RevenantsKnight is the village idiot trying, by behaving very much like the village idiot, to have people think he's mafia acting like the village idiot, and thus getting lynched. I think a real mafioso would have put some break on this acting at some point, when seeing (s)he is indeed about to be lynched.
At the moment I think RevenantsKnight is the village idiot trying, by behaving very much like the village idiot, to have people think he's mafia acting like the village idiot, and thus getting lynched. I think a real mafioso would have put some break on this acting at some point, when seeing (s)he is indeed about to be lynched.
If we're going in circles again, what about this:
If someone was to change their act when they start getting votes it might attract a lot of suspicion. It might just get that person lynched even faster. If we assume RK is being clever, he has probably thought of that too. The only question then is how far he would've taking this circle.
If someone was to change their act when they start getting votes it might attract a lot of suspicion. It might just get that person lynched even faster. If we assume RK is being clever, he has probably thought of that too. The only question then is how far he would've taking this circle.
