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Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
- Thread starter Ray Patean
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Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Erwwwd, I never claimed that my post was objective, I just said that it would be a summary, there were bits of conjecture in there, some of which I think was false some of which I think was true. I just wanted to see what peoples reactions were, and allow people to make comments based on some fact, I found the beginning of day 3 to be confusing and wanted a way to give my self and others some perspective.
I also don't think Bob has been that suspicious, I think he's been inactive, but the inactive voting thing doesn't make a vast amount of sense past the first couple of days.
Ankeli was clearly using Soyl and Noammr's little huddle on day 1 to protect himself, for me, there is quite a lot of evidence there that he was mafia to back up Aman's claim, and a lot of evidence to back up the fact that Aman isn't mafia: his voting patterns, the information he has given, etc. However I don't really understand his flip-flop over jaago, and that has me worried.
I have a problem with Jaago, his earlier voting patterns worry me, as do many of his earlier comments. I think he's been blending in well with the crowd for the last day, I have a strong feeling he's scum, however popular opininon appears to go against me and we are moving into the last 8 hours before lynch and cannot afford to waste our votes at this stage on a no-lynch, there are too many people that we have good reason to vote for.
My personal choice is FBZ, he hasn't been particularly informative in his posting, been absent for long periods (with corresponding activity in other areas of the forum) and appears to have just jumped on the first inactivity bandwagon, with the defense that he has contributed something, yeah, an unreasoned vote. So for that reason I:
vote: friedbananazzzz
Erwwwd, I never claimed that my post was objective, I just said that it would be a summary, there were bits of conjecture in there, some of which I think was false some of which I think was true. I just wanted to see what peoples reactions were, and allow people to make comments based on some fact, I found the beginning of day 3 to be confusing and wanted a way to give my self and others some perspective.
I also don't think Bob has been that suspicious, I think he's been inactive, but the inactive voting thing doesn't make a vast amount of sense past the first couple of days.
Ankeli was clearly using Soyl and Noammr's little huddle on day 1 to protect himself, for me, there is quite a lot of evidence there that he was mafia to back up Aman's claim, and a lot of evidence to back up the fact that Aman isn't mafia: his voting patterns, the information he has given, etc. However I don't really understand his flip-flop over jaago, and that has me worried.
I have a problem with Jaago, his earlier voting patterns worry me, as do many of his earlier comments. I think he's been blending in well with the crowd for the last day, I have a strong feeling he's scum, however popular opininon appears to go against me and we are moving into the last 8 hours before lynch and cannot afford to waste our votes at this stage on a no-lynch, there are too many people that we have good reason to vote for.
My personal choice is FBZ, he hasn't been particularly informative in his posting, been absent for long periods (with corresponding activity in other areas of the forum) and appears to have just jumped on the first inactivity bandwagon, with the defense that he has contributed something, yeah, an unreasoned vote. So for that reason I:
vote: friedbananazzzz
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Er... what?
Spigot, you just posted a long post about the need to secure a lynch today then voted for someone without any votes at the moment. With this little time left that could easily be seen as wasting your vote.
Fair enough you explain why you don't like the votes for Bob, but you say nothing about what you think of Nolecub.
I think Bob's a lot less suspicious than Nolecub at the moment. Let's not forget Nolecub was third placed on my table, so up until this point he's been shady to my eyes. Today hasn't reallynhelped him either.
Vote: Nolecub
Er... what?
Spigot, you just posted a long post about the need to secure a lynch today then voted for someone without any votes at the moment. With this little time left that could easily be seen as wasting your vote.
Fair enough you explain why you don't like the votes for Bob, but you say nothing about what you think of Nolecub.
I think Bob's a lot less suspicious than Nolecub at the moment. Let's not forget Nolecub was third placed on my table, so up until this point he's been shady to my eyes. Today hasn't reallynhelped him either.
Vote: Nolecub
Soylentred
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Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Ok - I am going back and reading everything again - the spigot guide I think is helpful for highlighting the actual happenings and then I am going to review the discussion against it and re-vote if I have to.
Ok - I am going back and reading everything again - the spigot guide I think is helpful for highlighting the actual happenings and then I am going to review the discussion against it and re-vote if I have to.
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Some advice then.
Some advice then.
Trust no one implicitly. Decide for yourselves.... Sure, 'monster' '2000 word essays' are still useful, but you have to consider always whether you think the conclusions of the author are justified. And if you disagree, does that make you suspicious of anything about how they are playing. I wouldn't normally post something like this, but in recent games I think the town's been too keen to follow other people's thought blindly.
BobTheWarrior
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Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
I'm still here. I have many excuses for not checking in, but who cares about that anyway?
Once again I have only skimmed since just before Spigot's massive recap post. Sorry.
Regarding my non-vote yesterday, Hey had reached lock -1 and I gave him time to respond to the vote before locking him. I did not get back to the game until after Erwwwd had already locked him. Not much point in voting after that now is there???
Today, I feel that I will need to bandwagon in order to survive. In my skimming it looks like the accusation against Nolecub is that he was trying to convince us that Ankeli was mafia based on some of Aman's posts which Nolecub might have misinterpreted. A very very easy thing to do with Aman's posts, which is why I don't read them :tongue:
I think that if Nolecub pulled a Bob and is going to get himself lynched. I screwed up in a similar way in a SPF game and had to roleclaim to save my skin. Without further reading, my impression is that Nolecub is likely a townie.
But, if it's between him and me. . . .
On a personal note, things have been busy and I have not found the time or motivation to keep up with the game. I will do so, but it will not be at the level others are doing. The SPF game ended and I have not signed up for the next one, knowing that two games are well beyond my capacity at the moment. I'll do my best if you let me live. If you don't feel that's good enough, so be it, but I won't go silently, I'll keep playing 'till the end.
I'm still here. I have many excuses for not checking in, but who cares about that anyway?
Once again I have only skimmed since just before Spigot's massive recap post. Sorry.
Regarding my non-vote yesterday, Hey had reached lock -1 and I gave him time to respond to the vote before locking him. I did not get back to the game until after Erwwwd had already locked him. Not much point in voting after that now is there???
Today, I feel that I will need to bandwagon in order to survive. In my skimming it looks like the accusation against Nolecub is that he was trying to convince us that Ankeli was mafia based on some of Aman's posts which Nolecub might have misinterpreted. A very very easy thing to do with Aman's posts, which is why I don't read them :tongue:
I think that if Nolecub pulled a Bob and is going to get himself lynched. I screwed up in a similar way in a SPF game and had to roleclaim to save my skin. Without further reading, my impression is that Nolecub is likely a townie.
But, if it's between him and me. . . .
On a personal note, things have been busy and I have not found the time or motivation to keep up with the game. I will do so, but it will not be at the level others are doing. The SPF game ended and I have not signed up for the next one, knowing that two games are well beyond my capacity at the moment. I'll do my best if you let me live. If you don't feel that's good enough, so be it, but I won't go silently, I'll keep playing 'till the end.
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Agh, curse this sickness.
From my quick summery, votes as they stand atm:
Nolecub- 4 (MassiveSin, Erwwwd, Jaago, SiTro)
Bob - 3 (Soylentred, friedbananazzzz, Nolecub)
MassiveSin - 1 (Aman)
friedbananazzzz - 1 (spigot)
I was just about to make this point, thank you sitro.
Seeing this a chioce between Nolecub and no-show bob, basicly shady activity vs. no activity decision. Nolecub, all these mistakes are making it look preeetty bad by now and I don't consider jumping on another vote just to save yourself a good move.
Vote: Nolecub
Pre-post edit; Yes, bob showed up. doesn't change my reasoning much although I agree the Nolecub's play *just might* be a series of honest mistakes...however, since I see the choice between him, bob and a no-lynch, I think I'll choose him.
When the hell do you people sleep? The thread just grows bigger on a 24 hour basis.
Agh, curse this sickness.
From my quick summery, votes as they stand atm:
Nolecub- 4 (MassiveSin, Erwwwd, Jaago, SiTro)
Bob - 3 (Soylentred, friedbananazzzz, Nolecub)
MassiveSin - 1 (Aman)
friedbananazzzz - 1 (spigot)
Spigot, you just posted a long post about the need to secure a lynch today then voted for someone without any votes at the moment. With this little time left that could easily be seen as wasting your vote.
I was just about to make this point, thank you sitro.
Seeing this a chioce between Nolecub and no-show bob, basicly shady activity vs. no activity decision. Nolecub, all these mistakes are making it look preeetty bad by now and I don't consider jumping on another vote just to save yourself a good move.
Vote: Nolecub
Pre-post edit; Yes, bob showed up. doesn't change my reasoning much although I agree the Nolecub's play *just might* be a series of honest mistakes...however, since I see the choice between him, bob and a no-lynch, I think I'll choose him.
When the hell do you people sleep? The thread just grows bigger on a 24 hour basis.
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Well, guys. It will be no big loss to the town if I am lynched since the only time I was successful at night, I was blocked. Yes, I am your friendly neighborhood doc. I tried leaving hints to you that I was. Like telling aman I was not going to listen to him anymore.Anyway, I tried to save Ankeli but he died anyway. That tells me that I was blocked from using me healing powers. Again, the doc is a hit and miss role, so i feel it is not so bad me coming out now.
Well, guys. It will be no big loss to the town if I am lynched since the only time I was successful at night, I was blocked. Yes, I am your friendly neighborhood doc. I tried leaving hints to you that I was. Like telling aman I was not going to listen to him anymore.Anyway, I tried to save Ankeli but he died anyway. That tells me that I was blocked from using me healing powers. Again, the doc is a hit and miss role, so i feel it is not so bad me coming out now.
MassiveSin
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Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Nolecub care to comment on this quote below in bold
Nolecub care to comment on this quote below in bold
But I can't be suspicious of myself, now can I? And you're getting that nervous for someone just suspecting you? Got something to hide?
@ aman: It might be better if noammr would sleep at home tonight.
MassiveSin
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Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
And since I see Jaago lurking too... I'd like your comment to post 389
And since I see Jaago lurking too... I'd like your comment to post 389
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
The only reason I am revealing now, is that i feel that what ever happened the night of Ankeli's death needs to be fleshed out.
Night one i asked that Zhao be saved.
Night two was Soyl
Night three was Ankeli
Night four was myself
As far as Jiago's comments I'm thinking that it was a not so subtle way to throw any mafia members off of his tracks for the evening. Of course, aman may be better to answer that question.
The only reason I am revealing now, is that i feel that what ever happened the night of Ankeli's death needs to be fleshed out.
Night one i asked that Zhao be saved.
Night two was Soyl
Night three was Ankeli
Night four was myself
As far as Jiago's comments I'm thinking that it was a not so subtle way to throw any mafia members off of his tracks for the evening. Of course, aman may be better to answer that question.
MassiveSin
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Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Actually nice picks if you backed them up just 1 day...
Anyways to Jaago's comment I interpreted it differently than you. Sort of like you go to the hospital and you are now released to your home after being attended to....
The only reason I am revealing now, is that i feel that what ever happened the night of Ankeli's death needs to be fleshed out.
Night one i asked that Zhao be saved.
Night two was Soyl
Night three was Ankeli
Night four was myself
As far as Jiago's comments I'm thinking that it was a not so subtle way to throw any mafia members off of his tracks for the evening. Of course, aman may be better to answer that question.
Actually nice picks if you backed them up just 1 day...
Anyways to Jaago's comment I interpreted it differently than you. Sort of like you go to the hospital and you are now released to your home after being attended to....
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Claiming the role of doctor is one of the best plays for a mafia player facing a lynch. It puts the town into a position where they urgently need to decide if they believe the claim or not. If the player is a doctor then the town faces losing one of its stronger power roles. If the player is a doctor then in order to prove him wrong the doctor may counter claim, which although shows that the lynchee was lying is an effective suicide regarding the next few nights.
On the other hand, if there's any role that needs to adopt a similar strategy to the mafia, it's the doctor. Like the mafia, the doctor has a night ability that requires strategy based on the events of the day. Another parallel with the mafia is that the doctor also has a group of people who they are trying to avoid detection by. For the mafia, this is the townsfolk. For the doctor, this is the mafia as they will generally be one of the mafia's prime targets. It's a tough role to play.
I'd like to hear if Noammr, Erwwwd or Jaago can divine anything from this revelation.
Claiming the role of doctor is one of the best plays for a mafia player facing a lynch. It puts the town into a position where they urgently need to decide if they believe the claim or not. If the player is a doctor then the town faces losing one of its stronger power roles. If the player is a doctor then in order to prove him wrong the doctor may counter claim, which although shows that the lynchee was lying is an effective suicide regarding the next few nights.
On the other hand, if there's any role that needs to adopt a similar strategy to the mafia, it's the doctor. Like the mafia, the doctor has a night ability that requires strategy based on the events of the day. Another parallel with the mafia is that the doctor also has a group of people who they are trying to avoid detection by. For the mafia, this is the townsfolk. For the doctor, this is the mafia as they will generally be one of the mafia's prime targets. It's a tough role to play.
I'd like to hear if Noammr, Erwwwd or Jaago can divine anything from this revelation.
MassiveSin
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Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Again I saw Jaago's comment it response the next day to this quote. Sort of like the wink that I did as asked
Actually i changed my mind.
Doc follow these instructions, don't look for a hidden message because it's not there. You must protect Noammr.
Again you must save Noammr, don't try to be clever and not save him just do it.
Again I saw Jaago's comment it response the next day to this quote. Sort of like the wink that I did as asked
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
Another hint I layed out early on.
As far as voting for today goes, I am trusting at the moment of Soy being a townie so:
Vote: Hey
The next person high on my suspicion list would be On Ice. This is because of the early "I am a townie" statement on day 1 as well as letting everyone know that he is unfamiliar on how the game is played. This just smells of a mafia ploy to me.
However, my view on this will probably be skewed since he is the only one to actually vote for my lynching. But that has no bearing in my opinion as I normally leave my personal feelings out of such decisions and treat everyone the same.
Another hint I layed out early on.
Re: Mafia: The Gangland Massacre
I'd say we have caught a mafia member red-handed. Otherwise the claim would be almost believable, but I find Nolecub's save order unplausible (why save the person with the most mafia-points?).
MassiveSin said:And since I see Jaago lurking too... I'd like your comment to post 389
I'd say we have caught a mafia member red-handed. Otherwise the claim would be almost believable, but I find Nolecub's save order unplausible (why save the person with the most mafia-points?).
