Hermit's Odd Build Challenge

hermit_boy

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Hermit's Odd Build Challenge

I have held the opinion that 99.9% of the resonable or semi-reasonable builds out there can kill Normal Baal if developed properly and played carefully.

To that end, I have thought up a challenge that I will undertake, and invite anyone else who wants to to join in.

Here is how it will work. Anyone who wants to, whether they want to participate or not, can submit a build to be played. You can also volunteer to be a participant. I will match the builds to the participants randomly, and you are responsible to get your build to Slayer status.

Here are the rules for playing the builds.
1) Softcore, but no death's and restarts are allowed. I will explain later.
2) No Twinking or muling in (muling out is acceptable).
3) No multiplayer
4) Finish all quests
5) If you die, you must start over from scratch by creating a brand new character.
6) You can only save and exit the game from town. (To avoid dodging death). If you are in trouble, and can TP to a town then you can save and exit.
7) TPs in belt are allowed.

Now here are the rules for submitting builds.
1) Figure on about 44 Skill points. That is lvl 40 when you kill Baal.
2) Build must allow for a method of killing. IE, no Defensive aura only paladins.
3) Build can be based on a specific set or item. If that is the case, then muling is acceptable just for that purpose.
4) Build can dictate where skill points and stat points can and cannot be allocated.
5) If the build only allows specific items or skills, then allowances must be made till the player can get that skill or item.
6) Must allow all skills points and stat points to be allocated.
7) If the build is based on a specific skill, you must allow the player to put points into the synergies, but you can tell them not to actively use the synergy skill.
8) Merc must be allowed, but you can dictate which merc they must use. They must be allowed to use any merc up till the allowable merc is available tho.

Builds should generally follow 1 specific theme.
I know the rules for submitting builds do not allow for ANY build imaginable, but they have to be at least partially reasonable. Please avoid anything that is completely unreasonable. IE, a naked sorc that cannot put points into Energy or Warmth, and cannot use charms and cannot use weapons.

The game will be played in Softcore to allow for muling in sets if a build is based on a specific set. However, regular Hardcore rules apply. If you die, you must start brand new. No escaping to avoid dying.

This challenge is designed to be fun. I will match up the builds and players by 10:30pm GMT since that is when I get off work and I want to start my build tonight.
 
2) Build must allow for a method of killing. IE, no Defensive aura only paladins.

When I take a defencive paly to nightmare Baal I will give you the build I used to do it.

Sounds like a cool challenge. I am sorry I will not be able to participate but I shall give you a few setups.

Passive Barb:
Axe Mastery
Iron Skin
Natural resist
increase stamina
increased run/walk
I finished at clvl 32 completing all quest can you do it faster?

Physic hammer/blade sentinal asssassin:
only allowed to use those two skills, any weapon is allowed.

Ice bolt sorc:
Ice Bolt
cold Mastery
cold armor (the one that shoots ice bolts back)
no items with ctc% other then ctc% ice bolts

Equalizer:
any character type
may not place a second point in a skill until all skills have 1 point in them, may not place a third point in a skill until all skills have 2 points in them, may not place a fourth point in a skill until all skills have 3 points in them. That would take 90 skill point to get the first skill with 4 points in it.
 
How about the use of full classic sets? Like a pally who MUST use Angelic set +Hsarus set (which would be a cool combo, come to think of it. That way, you only need to find your gloves/helm.

I will participate, but only if I can get my build ASAP, as I will have lots of time during finals week when I'm not testing.

crg
 
Uzziah said:
When I take a defencive paly to nightmare Baal I will give you the build I used to do it.

I guess a Defensive aura only pally would be fine, if you allowed them to attack also. I was thinking about a Pacifist build that uses Defensive aura's only and does not attack. Used occasionally in MP games as a support pally.

Crazy Runner Guy: Yeah, use of full classic sets would be fine. So if you wanted to for instance have a build with a Druid that MUST use Angelic set, that would be fine.

Specify what rules you want that build to have and we will add it.

If you want to start quickly, I will give you one of the builds Uzziah suggested.

I was going to randomly give out builds, but I guess that is fine if participants want to volunteer for specific builds. If you want to choose one of the 4 builds already suggested, then let us know.
 
hermit_boy: I am on a grail to get single skill tree builds and the defensive tree paly look like it will be one of the toughest to get into Hell. They only have to reach Hell to complete my grail and they will be played softcore. Since I won't MP because I can't I will have to solo this build anyways.

I am however not ready to start a defensive paly yet so its on the back burner getting setup.

CRG: I will agree with taking someone elses build but not your own build through this challenge. I think thats why its called a challenge someone else sets the parameters and you prove them wrong.
 
I'd like to join. The icebolt sorc is my kinda girl and this looks like fun. When does this start? Let me know if I can run the sorc and I'll start today.

Darkwell
 
i bet i could beat normal skill using no skill points and only 3 stat points/lvl... but are we not supposed to run our own build ideas?



tell you what though i will make a defensive only pally(using normal attack to attack), are there any further parameters/item requirements i should know about?
 
DevontheGnomey said:
i bet i could beat normal skill using no skill points and only 3 stat points/lvl... but are we not supposed to run our own build ideas?



tell you what though i will make a defensive only pally(using normal attack to attack), are there any further parameters/item requirements i should know about?

Just no other skill points are spent other than in defensive aura skills. Also the rule at the top of the page.

I could beat normal using the 3 stat points per level but I would be using staff mods from items like a madman. Humph a firewall sorc with 1000 damage per sec from a leaf staff!
 
Slight change of rules. You cannot use your own build idea, but you can choose any of the other build suggestions given by other people. First come first served.

Darkwell: You got the Ice Sorc. Good luck.

DevontheGnomey: Go ahead and take the Defensive aura Pally. Use normal attacks and any equipment, but only the Defensive aura tree.
Rules state that builds have to allow use of the skills and stats, but if you do not want to use them that is your choice.

Other build idea:

Dentist Necro - Teeth as main attack. Synergies OK, no summons, but all auras are OK.
 
Uzziah said:
Just no other skill points are spent other than in defensive aura skills. Also the rule at the top of the page.

I could beat normal using the 3 stat points per level but I would be using staff mods from items like a madman. Humph a firewall sorc with 1000 damage per sec from a leaf staff!


after i finish up this build i will an untwinked melee class through normal skill completing every quest with only 3 stat points/level and no skills from items or otherwise



now for the defensive aura guy
 
Cool idea Hermit :thumbsup:

I'll play whatever you assign me - make it tough :teeth:
 
I am going to give the equalizer a try. I guess the only rule is that I have to have 1 point in all 30 skills before I can start another skill right?

I think I will choose the Sorceress for that one. She will probably be a bit more challenging than a melee build since none of the skills will be too powerful with only one point, but it will be fun to have a huge variety of skills to use.
 
Uzziah

O.K. I have the icebolt sorc. Any restrictions I should know about. Can I use a bow, shield, pike or is it staff only? Any restriction on the merc that can be used?

Darkwell
 
Darkwell said:
Uzziah

O.K. I have the icebolt sorc. Any restrictions I should know about. Can I use a bow, shield, pike or is it staff only? Any restriction on the merc that can be used?

Darkwell

Your to be using ice bolt as the only skill. If you run out of mana well you better have some faster run/walk!!!

Nah just kidding you can use what ever weapon if you run out of mana but only the normal attack can be used when that happens. An act 3 ice merc would be the one to use for this build since he uses ice bolt. any merc can be used up to that point though.

@ hermit_boy yeah 1 point in all 30 skills before you can place the second point in any one skill

2 points in all 30 skills before you can place the third point in any one skill

Keep the staffmods to a minimal. A +3 firewall leaf staff should not be used as it is completely unfair (1000 damage per second with no points spent). However, +skills and +tree skills are encouraged
 
AlterEgo said:
Cool idea Hermit :thumbsup:

I'll play whatever you assign me - make it tough :teeth:

Sorry if this is a double post.

May I suggest either a amazon or barb equilizer they are the hardest two to play. :thumbsup:

Hint: The assassin equilizer is really easy to play using fireblast/wake of fire as a main skill. but using a claw is really the worst thing you could do playing this one.
 
Uzziah said:
Sorry if this is a double post.

May I suggest either a amazon or barb equilizer they are the hardest two to play. :thumbsup:

Hint: The assassin equilizer is really easy to play using fireblast/wake of fire as a main skill. but using a claw is really the worst thing you could do playing this one.

If a Barb is harder, maybe I will try that one instead of the sorc. Don't want to make it too easy on myself :flip:

AlterEgo: I would love to see a Dentist make it. Teeth with the synergies, and any other non-damaging spell. No minions (aside from a merc). Curses are OK.

If you don't want that on, no one has claimed the Physic hammer/blade sentinal asssassin yet :lol:
 
hermit_boy said:
AlterEgo: I would love to see a Dentist make it. Teeth with the synergies, and any other non-damaging spell. No minions (aside from a merc). Curses are OK.
Sounds great! I almost played one of those guys in 1.09 when teeth didn't even have synergies :lol:

Introducing Hermey the Dentist. I hope to get some time to start him off tonight.
 
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