Re: Hardcore Frozen Orb/Fire Ball Sorceress; Socialism’s “Orb-it-allerâ€
I like this guide. Short and sweet, speaks to the way I play a Sorc.
Cheers, thanks.
Right now it can easily pass off as a SC guide with multiple points in teleport (which is possibly not so significant by itself) and strict adherence to breakpoint targets.
If you need a playstyle guide, you can likely find one in the Hardcore forum.
Taismellz <3
Another reason for maxing firebolt instead of meteor is if you are not getting a full hell rush. Having a lvl 1 skill to start killing with is just amazing.
Untwinked, this rocks pants off anything.
solo, untwinked, Call To Arms seems to be harder to get until later. That being said, without CTA or a BO friend in tow, can this build safely do NM or Hell Mehpis runs teleporting WITHOUT a high block?
I am confident in the infinicast teleporting with 5 hard points invested and +skills, but with no blocking would that be suicide to go through NM/Mephis runs to get gear as you play?
I plan on using this build at ladder reset, but I wonder how to gear it up until I can get CTA/Monarch Shield etc. Socialism said he would take this over a hammerdin to start a season for magicfinding...I'm wondering what kind of magic finding you do before you get that CTA (areas?mephis runs? or do you just trade for the runes?)
Thanks,
MrGohl
Very good points; thanks for asking. Running NM Andariel/Mephisto is stupid when you consider that Normal Baal pays off nearly as well but is 100x safer. If you can teleport NM Mephisto safely, you should be running NM Baal.
Simply put, if you're curious about the gear it takes to get this girl off the ground untwinked, the smartest thing you can do is go play untwinked. It'll teach you all you need to know. The "MF" I used to do on an untwinked roll:
* Drognan until I have an FCR/mana wand
* Normal Arcane Sanctuary/Tombs/Jungle until I have Stealth (Countess is stupid)
* Normal Baal until I'm 50+ allres with decent breakpoints in NM
* NM Arcane Sanctuary until I have an Insight and a Spirit sword
* NM Baal until I'm 75 allres with decent breakpoints in Hell
* Hell Mephisto / Baal
If you wanna know cheap simple easy gear, go read the Hardcore Orb/TK Sorceress thingie I wrote up, it's in the sticky. Or
here. Blimey.
don't EVER count on CtA for playing untwinked
Quoted for truth. I'm still trying to understand why people think gear is part of a build.
Unless you're building specifically around an item, like, say, Sara's Rift Assassin--- these setups are pretty standard across most sorceresses.
the part of the original post that made me scratch my head was: use full tal rasha's set, and CTA....BUT this is also the build I (Socialism) would use to start a season. Seemed like some really good gear to be counting on to be starting a season.
Socialism mentioned stacked lightning resistances in his reply to me, is he talking about having like Thundergod's for +85 to res or does he mean having more than 75% worth of charms in your inven so that when mobs lower your resis you still have a good amount?
I guess I dont mean strictly untwinked, since I do mule, but its only the accumulated wealth of one player (and that player tends to die not long after level 78 or so in hell
)
Also, I haven't traded, but would love to, if I could figure out a good way to accomplish it.
Thanks,
MrGohl
Our definition of 'build' seems to differ; mine doesn't include equipment setup.
All I did was show what the girl ended up in the review; I never implied that gear was necessary to make her awesome.
The gear suggested is just that: suggested. He doesn't give the impression that one would have that gear at the very start of a season. The "rich man's gear setup" is something to trade for when it becomes available; in the meantime, aim for what the suggested gear gives until you can obtain it.
I don't mean to condescend; I'm just trying to clarify Socialism's intentions.
Thank you, sir, for clarifying my intentions. You are several kinds of awesome rolled into one.
No offense taken. Aiming for what the suggested gear provides (FCR, skills, res, MF) is the right plan, and what I was doing anyway. I'm more asking of how to MF through the game or overal gameplan for gearing up(since I wont have CTA or the full tal's set at beginning) For instance, at what point should I start Hell Baal runs(he said level 76 was too low). Should i use this toon to do Hell Mephis runs w/o block but with nice FCR and infinicast teleport? Should I slowly walk areas instead, like pits, or WSK?
Thanks for the help,
MrGohl
Same as earlier; see
this.
Our untwinked CTA group was doing Hell Baal at 83. You can do NM Baal runs for decent xp until level ~75-80, IIRC.
If you're planning on doing SOLO Hell Baal runs, your level doesn't matter so much; your gear matters tremendously. You need to spend a ton of time at NM Baal/Hell Mephisto before you're good to go vs. Gloams and the like.
I run hell meph easily with my merc & 75% block with a heater with 'Rhyme' in it. I have no CtA or BO or any high-end RW, just full tals & usual MF gear. I use this build but with 20pts in Meteor instead of bolt (I think I may have mentioned that?!
)
Great!
With this setup you're going the vita route and not max block because there simply aren't enough state points available to get enough max block and have enough left over for a decent chunk of life. This build relies on FCR/FHR breakpoints and infinicasts with a playstyle emphasis on teleing around for safety for survival.
You should be able to handle most areas with relative ease. Obviously in HC you should be moving more carefully. I do run pits and WSK from time to time and I tend to walk and occasionally tele back to cleared areas when things look sketchy. this character's range and quickness really make it as safe an option as it gets.
Flawless. Thanks for your input.
I have literally no gear worth talking about. Money is easy to come by. Socialism told me today that I can buy the right gear. I'm wondering what I should be looking for...priorities. Would FHR be high on the list? FCR? Res? Do I need to get a socketed shield and put a diamond or two in it early on? Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Read
this.
Off the top of my head, FCR > Life > Res > FHR > Mana > FBR.
Those ~100 points you've spent in energy would give you about 200 life, so you'll be more vulnerable. This may create be a problem later on in Hell difficulty where monster do pretty high damage. But if this is your first character, you may not (want to) complete Hell anyway. So I'd say just continue with this character and see how far you get.