Ender's Mafia Game

[Goryani]

You [highlight]STILL[/highlight] haven't told us what Sarthoris flipped, but doing so would help clear up whether my results can be trusted. If you're a townie, that's info you should give us. What did Sarthoris flip?

That's actually a decent reason. Sathoris was Peter Wiggin. 1 shot vigilante. Mason. Alignment wasn't initially given, but was later given as pro-town.

In most situations like this, mafia have a lot of questions unless I kill one of their own. I waited to claim in order to see who asked which questions. Whether they thought me instantly scum, instantly town, or waited until I claimed first. Slow play kills mafia. Play enough games with me and you'll see it firsthand many times. I made a long post about it one game. I had no intention of posting as soon as I got the info but every intention of posting before the end of the day.

 

[Goryani]

What mountain of evidence? You are point blank refusing to offer anything that would help explain your actions (like the actual evidence against Sath or what he flipped), just making repeated sweeping generalisations as if we're too stupid to notice what you're doing. Stop hurling elephants and give us something tangible.

If by "actual evidence" you mean tangible events such as a cop investigation or eavesdropper snooping, then I don't have any. All I have is my scumhunting. I posted the cliff notes earlier. Did you not see it or not understand it or not consider it actual evidence?

Why should I or anyone else answer one of your questions?

I don't think you've answered a thing I've asked this entire game - not even here.

 

[Jason Maher]

I did and then asked you why my name was bolded.

Perhaps you should read it to me and show me where you reference me specifically.

You mention bad language twins and being gone from forum for 24 hours and vote/allude to Pyrotechnician.


Nothing about me. Perhaps I should re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reread it??

I clearly said I posted the table because one of the scum had been absent at the end of the day. Pyro and you both had a last post in the same ballpark (over 24 hours before the non-lynch), hence you were both bolded. If you look, those who posted in the last hour or so were italicised. The list was clearly ordered by time of last post. What is so mysterious about highlighting people with similar last post times in a similar manner?

 

[Jason Maher]

To further clarify my purpose: being unable to obtain a list of when people were and were not online, I decided to use "last post time" as the best available proxy to try and determine who would have had a reason to apologise to their scum buddies for being absent.

 

[Jason Maher]

If by "actual evidence" you mean tangible events such as a cop investigation or eavesdropper snooping, then I don't have any. All I have is my scumhunting. I posted the cliff notes earlier. Did you not see it or not understand it or not consider it actual evidence?



I don't think you've answered a thing I've asked this entire game - not even here.

Is there a question in there somewhere? :badteeth:

 

[flubbucket1]

You bold my name in a table, you insinuate & vote for Pyrotechnician (one of the scum??) and I'm just supposed to allow you to associate me without question??

What's so mysterious about asking you to clarify your lack of clarity??

 

[Jason Maher]

You bold my name in a table, you insinuate & vote for Pyrotechnician (one of the scum??) and I'm just supposed to allow you to associate me without question??

What's so mysterious about asking you to clarify your lack of clarity??

Paranoid much? You associated yourself by not posting for over 24 hours. The evidence is there. I'm not the one who needs to explain my actions. You are.

 

[Jason Maher]

Sorry I missed most of the last day phase, went to visit my parents and that pretty much shot the rest of it. That being said, I probably won't be able to post most of tomorrow (actual time) so I'm doing it now.



I was and am thinking very clearly. The way you stated your original post didn't even have the most likely possibility as him being some kind of investigative role, it was trying to throw doubt at his claim from the bat and the way you stated a request for a full claim did not sound like it had any town intentions in the slightest. Do I believe he should have revealed the rest before days end? Of course, but if its one thing mafia do not like, its not knowing something, and you expressed that greatly in your post.



Expressing doubt about lynching Moar placing the doubt due to a "fast moving train". Your worry and later post have been noted.



Very sorry to hear that Moar, best wishes for your friend in this difficult time.



This is one artfully crafted post, but its complete and utter bull****. Sorry Fred, but your not convincing me in the slightest. Too much convenience, using minor characters since they are unlikely to be used, and throwing in bomb abilities just for kicks is just to perfect to be true, and it definitely isn't.

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Let me tell you, if it wasn't for Drixx's investigation result, the two highlighted snippets would have me right on Pyro's trail. As it is, I'm still considering the possibility that Drixx somehow received a dodgy result (possibly due to a role that is immune to investigation i.e. always shows townie - I've seen such roles many times).

I think we need to begin those challenges. Stack things against him

You think he can win consistently?

No. I don't think anyone can.

Then why did I spend months designing them!?

Because he's the most likely to succeed, and we're running out of time.






BipolarChemist has died
Kitteh was replaced by Thyiad (from now on I will modkill those who can't or do not want to play)

There are 17 players alive, 9 players to lynch, 10 to lock.
Day 3 has started and lasts 48 hours.

This one is a stretch, but someone else suggested Kitteh might be one to share a potty mouth with Pyro, to the extent of swearing the same way (I'd believe it). Perhaps he quit in a huff?

 

[Jason Maher]

The only question if Pyro were scum, but for some reason or other still showed up as a townie to Drixx, would by why he would throw his scum buddy under the bus? Perhaps because he saw it as inevitable anyway (the speaker from last night certainly thought so)?

 

[Drixx]

So if Goryani confirmed Sathoris as Peter Wiggin, a 1-shot vigilante mason ... then who is Goryani (name) and what role gets an instant kill?

Also, let's lock FoE. Seriously. It's long since time to put that one to bed. FoE crafted a post for the ages, but it has been thoroughly shot down by this point.

 

[Thyiad1]

Zokar's ban is permanent.

I'll endeavour to do a slightly more on topic post this afternoon.

 

[Noodle]

Flying to Chicago today, so I won't be around until later. I don't believe FoE has been locked yet, so I might as well get this out of the way.

Vote: FredofEric

 

[coju]

An interesting table:

[TABLE="width: 500"]
[TR]
[TD]Player
[/TD]
[TD]Last Post on Day 2 (day end at 08:00)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gwaihir
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]07:56
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Zemaj
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]07:48
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Noodle
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]07:42
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Laarz
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]07:42
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FredOfErik (Moar)
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]07:37
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sathoris
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]07:16
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Valhauros
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]04:57
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Drixx
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]04:27
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Thyiad (Kitteh)
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]04:18
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Zokar
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]04:16
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Leopold Stotch
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]03:49
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Goryani
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]03:17
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]coju
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]02:58
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jason Maher
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19:15
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Phillinnicus
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15:18
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]flubbucket
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]06:39 (-1 day)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pyrotechnician
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]05:15 (-1 day)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bipolar Chemist
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15:06 (-1 day)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Why is it interesting? Because one of the scum apologised to his/her/its buddies for not being present at the end of day 2 in order to sway the voting. This confirms FoE as 100% scum, which in turn casts serious doubt on Goryani. Whoever it is, they mentioned the only way they would have succeeded in swaying the voting is with a false Vigilante claim (I don't follow their thinking, but that's what they said). This scum also cursed in a way very reminiscent (eerily so) of Pyro a few posts above.

The rest was stating they need to get rid of someone (me, presumably, in which case Goryani may be just an idiot and not scum), and that they need to protect someone else, at the cost of stopping them from using his ability (dunno how that would work, but it's very clear that protection = no ability).

Personally, due to the foul-mouthed mimicry of what I heard overnight, and the absence from the thread for the 24 hours leading up to the lynch, I believe Pyro is scum. However, he can wait for tomorrow, as can Goryani. Today,

Unvote: Goryani

Vote: FredOfErik

Let's get things rolling for the town.

Whoah! Someone earlier stated that they can protect somebody, but that it prevents their ability.
Wasn't the voting FOR FoE/Moar, and if 'they' weren't there to vote for for/moar......... makes me think FoE is town... :-|

 

[pharphis]

Quit leaving my game, everyone
Let me do a recount on votes and remove his if he has one this day.
There are 15 people alive, 8 to lynch, 9 to lock.

ZOKAR WAS POL SLATTERY, NOT A VI BUT A VANILLA TOWNIE

 

[Valhauros]

I'm posting from work: I'm going out right now to Pizza Hut, but I will still come back and post around 19:00.

What the hell happened to Zokar?

 

[Gwaihir]

explanation is that I passed out drafting that post, and hurried to post it before I went to work, without reading-up. If you think that is a pretty lame excuse you are right, & if its any consolation I have been asking myself the same questions & arriving at much harsher conclusions in the past ~30mins.

That half answers the question. It explains why you claim after 2 other power roles come out. It does not explain why you did not do it yesterday to prevent a mislynch.

I'm not allowed to directly quote a PM, as
you well know. I'm not paraphrasing it all for a second time. There
was one more sentence about Moar skimming the thread on the bus, which
matched up with something she posted in the thread, hence how I was
able to identify the speaker.

Sorry, didn't mean that. I meant changing it enough so that it meant a
similar thing. Also, I must have missed that post from the previous
day where you went into detail.

This, this times x1000%. Anyone find it funny fred has yet to post since the beginning of the day?

Your whole theory, which amazingly was never posted, and an early claim of vanilla townie! Amazing, almost like your early claim in that game you were the SK, coincidence? I think not.

Not suprised. I was hoping to hear more, but we may not. And that was my first thought with him, and similar thought with Zokar (although with his posting style, his reveal was a bit more understandable).

Zokar's ban is permanent.

I'll endeavour to do a slightly more on topic post this afternoon.

Whoah! Someone earlier stated that they can protect somebody, but that it prevents their ability.
Wasn't the voting FOR FoE/Moar, and if 'they' weren't there to vote for for/moar......... makes me think FoE is town... :-|

Flubb said that as a hypothetical earlier in response to someone I think, can't remember who atm. They could also have been trying to sway the vote away from FOE onto someone else.

Sath was backed up as town according to 2 sources now, and he has no reason to lie - FOE must be.

Vote: FredofErik

 

[pharphis]

As of post 551, FoE is at lynch (not lock), with 8 votes.

Feel free to double check for me again.

 

[Valhauros]

If he's a bomb, he's taking me with him.

Vote: FredofErik

 

[coju]

.....

Flubb said that as a hypothetical.....

Hypothetical, eh?

 

[Drixx]

Quit leaving my game, everyone
Let me do a recount on votes and remove his if he has one this day.
There are 15 people alive, 8 to lynch, 9 to lock.

ZOKAR WAS POL SLATTERY, NOT A VI BUT A VANILLA TOWNIE

Yeah, he breadcrumbed that really early in the game. Good to have the confirmation though.

What the hell happened to Zokar?

Permanent ban. No idea why and usually that sort of thing isn't shared.

If he's a bomb, he's taking me with him.

Vote: FredofErik

Yet another reason to suspect you are scum. FoE's story has been essentially decimated by contrary evidence and the "lynch me and you go with me" threat is as old as the book. We'll see you in the shower room tomorrow (for those who read the book this should be a very clear reference).