Diablo II meets Nethack Tournament

[jiansonz]

Other NetHack noobie qestions I can´t seem to find an answer for:

* When I use a scroll of identify, I know it has a varied effectiveness (1 - more items). Can you specifically ask for which item to identify? Is it any good to drop things with a lower ID priority (for me)? When I cast it, I get a look at my inventory, and I can click in squares next to the items (in the same manner as when I pick up or drop stuff). Can I determine what to identify here? And what if the scroll identifies more items than I click for?

 

[Flamearrows]

Other NetHack noobie qestions I can´t seem to find an answer for:

* When I use a scroll of identify, I know it has a varied effectiveness (1 - more items). Can you specifically ask for which item to identify? Is it any good to drop things with a lower ID priority (for me)? When I cast it, I get a look at my inventory, and I can click in squares next to the items (in the same manner as when I pick up or drop stuff). Can I determine what to identify here? And what if the scroll identifies more items than I click for?

Yes. Always pick one item - if you get more than that, the screen will simply come back up again and you can choose another. Amulets are the hardest useful items to effectively identify - rings can be dropped in sinks, wands can be used to zap and engrave to identify them, and armour, weapons and tools can be dropped on altars to ascertain their BUC status, and hence tried on for size.

Otherwise, weapons might be a good choice if you don't know their enchantment... or wands, if you really need to know how many charges they have left.

flamearrows

 

[brainfloss]

Farewell, Zirah the Tourist. You died (sob) on the astral plane....

1 2478562 Zirah-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu was poisoned on the Astral
Plane. Poisoned by Pestilence (with the Amulet). 181 [236]

Bloody hell I was close. The unicorn horn didn't work in time, and I forgot you can pray up there. Ouch. Oh well, 2.5 million is a pretty godly score, even given the fact it would have more than doubled had I ascended. Ah well, better luck to everyone else...

flamearrows

Ouch but a nice effort anyways! Looks like I have some catching up to do.

Karin the Knight is looking very good at the moment. Used potions of gain level and incubi to get to level 30 before I've even entered Gehennom. She's got a +7 Frost Brand with a silver saber on the other hand, silver dragon scale mail, oilskin cloak, boots of speed, amulet of life saving, helmet of brilliance, rings of polymorph control and protection. Doesn't getting an early wand of wishing make a huge difference? (I still haven't gotten to the castle yet) Oh, and she's nealy maxed her stats - strength is 18/50, int is 16 base, everything else is maxed.

Given that the only thing that did me in last time was a freak occurence (the offending species has been dealt with accordingly), amd I'm a lot tougher this time round, I reckon I may be able to ascend her...

 

[brainfloss]

Karin is defineitely an ascension candidate, unless something untoward happens. She's just reached the inner sanctum, and I don't foresee her having any great problems from here - although I did have to 'waste' two wishes - one on an amulet of magic breathing to retrieve the Book of the Dead (I foolishly killed the Wizard of Yendor while he was over water) and the other on more candles for the Candleabrum (one short! stupid guy in Gnomish Minetown only sold two of the bloody things!) Anyway I have two amulets of life saving, I hope that's enough, and all my gear is enchanted as far as it will go.

Also I will need levitation or a dragon for the plane of air once I get to it... my stupid yellow dragon ate a doppelganger and turned into a yellow light!!! :grrr: and I drowned my poor leocrotta by riding it into a moat :uhhuh:

 

[DuesNox]

When you said that on the graphics one it's hard to get anywhere im wondering what you ment? I like the graphics one better than the other, not because it is more 21st centurary but its easier. You can right click an item and decide what to do with it plus much more choices that are easier to get through. for beginners instead of learning all the commands and what everything means they could just go the graphics version It may not give as much choices as the original game but im wondering what other people think about the graphics version of nethack and regular version....

 

[brainfloss]

Karin has ascended to the status of Demigoddess...

Main gear:
amulet of life saving
ring of free action
ring of polymorph control
+7 Frost Brand
+7 silver saber
+5 silver dragon scale mail
+5 boots of speed
+5 gauntlets of dexterity
+5 helm of brillaince
+5 oilskin cloak (maybe I would have been better with a robe, for extra spellcasting power)
+5 T-shirt
Magic Mirror of Merlin

Utility gear:
boots of water walking
boots of levitation
amulet of magic breathing
unicorn horn
tinning kit
skeleton key
bag of holding
a whole bunch of magic markers

Final Attributes:

You were the Hand of Elbereth.
You were piously aligned.
You were fire resistant.
You were cold resistant.
You were sleep resistant.
You were disintegration-resistant.
You were shock resistant.
You were poison resistant.
You were magic-protected.
You saw invisible.
You were telepathic.
You were invisible to others.
You could jump.
You could teleport.
You had teleport control.
You were protected.
You had polymorph control.
You were very fast.
You had reflection.
You had free action.
Your life would have been saved.
You were wielding two weapons at once.
You were extremely lucky.
You had extra luck.
Bad luck did not time out for you.
Good luck did not time out for you.
You survived.


Vanquished creatures:

Asmodeus
Baalzebub
Orcus
Juiblex
The Wizard of Yendor (9 times)
Famine
a high priest
a mastodon
Medusa
13 krakens
an Archon
8 iron golems
23 storm giants
2 glass golems
4 balrogs
9 purple worms
3 gray dragons
4 silver dragons
13 red dragons
8 white dragons
3 orange dragons
9 black dragons
4 blue dragons
8 green dragons
7 yellow dragons
14 minotaurs
12 jabberwocks
Ixoth
8 baluchitheria
7 Angels
Vlad the Impaler
6 stone golems
5 master mind flayers
8 Olog-hai
3 Nazguls
13 pit fiends
2 sandestins
8 hell hounds
4 titanotheres
9 trappers
2 baby silver dragons
3 baby white dragons
a baby green dragon
7 disenchanters
39 vampire lords
5 skeletons
18 aligned priests
8 captains
5 shades
4 water trolls
a clay golem
7 nurses
13 ice devils
5 nalfeshnees
7 lurkers above
a frost giant
9 ettins
15 black puddings
23 vampires
10 lieutenants
40 ghosts
a queen bee
6 winged gargoyles
5 mind flayers
17 giant mimics
12 zruties
8 fire giants
12 ogre kings
4 ice trolls
10 rock trolls
12 umber hulks
21 flesh golems
10 Elvenkings
3 doppelgangers
14 hezrous
19 bone devils
10 large mimics
4 wumpuses
7 fire vortices
a baby long worm
2 baby purple worms
5 long worms
a couatl
15 stalkers
15 air elementals
33 fire elementals
16 earth elementals
29 water elementals
3 hill giants
5 giant mummies
20 xorns
26 giant zombies
23 elf-lords
19 sergeants
2 water demons
13 barbed devils
13 vrocks
10 salamanders
40 wargs
2 winter wolves
3 hell hound pups
18 small mimics
5 glass piercers
8 warhorses
17 steam vortices
10 xans
7 ettin mummies
5 ogre lords
12 quantum mechanics
24 trolls
2 sasquatches
4 wood golems
3 erinyes
3 mariliths
3 djinn
7 sharks
7 electric eels
4 gelatinous cubes
2 pyrolisks
7 large dogs
3 freezing spheres
6 flaming spheres
10 shocking spheres
6 large cats
8 tigers
8 gargoyles
a dwarf king
3 tengu
33 ochre jellies
11 leocrottas
14 energy vortices
9 mountain centaurs
3 stone giants
5 elf mummies
2 human mummies
4 red nagas
6 green slimes
11 pit vipers
3 pythons
16 cobras
59 wraiths
6 carnivorous apes
18 ettin zombies
3 leather golems
16 Grey-elves
49 soldiers
2 watchmen
10 horned devils
13 succubi
11 incubi
13 chameleons
3 crocodiles
31 giant beetles
2 quivering blobs
26 cockatrices
28 wolves
11 winter wolf cubs
2 lynxes
6 panthers
10 gremlins
2 spotted jellies
23 leprechauns
6 orc-captains
8 iron piercers
10 mumakil
13 giant spiders
11 scorpions
9 horses
5 ice vortices
2 black lights
13 vampire bats
11 forest centaurs
3 gnome kings
5 orc mummies
7 dwarf mummies
10 ogres
4 brown puddings
7 rust monsters
17 owlbears
7 yetis
4 gold golems
4 werewolves
9 Green-elves
5 piranhas
17 giant eels
22 lizards
8 chickatrices
2 dingos
2 housecats
5 jaguars
a dwarf lord
9 blue jellies
7 gray unicorns
4 black unicorns
4 dust vortices
7 ravens
6 plains centaurs
4 gnome mummies
9 snakes
3 water moccasins
19 apes
24 human zombies
5 rope golems
11 Woodland-elves
34 soldier ants
12 fire ants
16 bugbears
6 imps
9 lemures
73 quasits
5 wood nymphs
9 water nymphs
3 mountain nymphs
26 Mordor orcs
30 Uruk-hai
5 orc shamans
13 rock piercers
4 rock moles
5 ponies
9 fog clouds
11 yellow lights
2 shriekers
5 violet fungi
20 gnome lords
8 gnomish wizards
5 kobold mummies
2 red naga hatchlings
a black naga hatchling
2 golden naga hatchlings
2 guardian naga hatchlings
a gray ooze
5 barrow wights
20 elf zombies
15 ghouls
5 straw golems
2 paper golems
8 jellyfish
40 giant ants
2 little dogs
16 floating eyes
3 kittens
7 dwarves
6 homunculi
4 kobold lords
3 kobold shamans
15 hill orcs
21 rothes
5 rabid rats
a centipede
a giant bat
10 monkeys
10 orc zombies
18 dwarf zombies
a wererat
3 werejackals
9 iguanas
50 killer bees
4 acid blobs
2 gas spores
a hobbit
15 manes
4 large kobolds
22 hobgoblins
5 giant rats
10 cave spiders
2 brown molds
4 yellow molds
a green mold
a red mold
55 gnomes
10 garter snakes
16 gnome zombies
9 geckos
13 jackals
5 foxes
3 goblins
6 sewer rats
8 grid bugs
5 bats
5 lichens
16 kobold zombies
8 newts

2752 creatures vanquished.


Genocided species:

liches
demiliches
master liches
arch-liches

4 species genocided.


Voluntary challenges:

You genocided 4 types of monsters.
You never polymorphed an object.
You used 14 wishes.


Fare thee well Karin the Demigoddess...

You went to your reward with 5293344 points,
Frost Brand (worth 3000 zorkmids and 7500 points)
The Candelabrum of Invocation (worth 5000 zorkmids and 12500 points)
The Bell of Opening (worth 5000 zorkmids and 12500 points)
The Magic Mirror of Merlin (worth 1500 zorkmids and 3750 points)
The Book of the Dead (worth 10000 zorkmids and 25000 points)
12 sapphires (worth 36000 zorkmids),
9 jacinth stones (worth 29250 zorkmids),
9 amber stones (worth 9000 zorkmids),
8 emeralds (worth 20000 zorkmids),
8 agate stones (worth 1600 zorkmids),
6 diamonds (worth 24000 zorkmids),
6 rubies (worth 21000 zorkmids),
6 obsidian stones (worth 1200 zorkmids),
5 turquoise stones (worth 10000 zorkmids),
4 black opals (worth 10000 zorkmids),
4 jet stones (worth 3400 zorkmids),
4 fluorite stones (worth 1600 zorkmids),
2 citrine stones (worth 3000 zorkmids),
2 aquamarine stones (worth 3000 zorkmids),
2 topaz stones (worth 1800 zorkmids),
1 dilithium crystal (worth 4500 zorkmids),
1 opal (worth 800 zorkmids),
1 chrysoberyl stone (worth 700 zorkmids),
1 jasper stone (worth 500 zorkmids),
1 jade stone (worth 300 zorkmids),
2 amulets of life saving (worth 300 zorkmids),
2 amulets of magical breathing (worth 300 zorkmids),
and 7922 pieces of gold, after 58007 moves.
You were level 30 with a maximum of 379 hit points when you ascended.


Now I can go back to real life... :flip:

 

[Vildecor]

Congrats, brainfloss, on the ascension! :clap:
Now all you have left is to get a guardian. :lol:

Haven't advanced much myself. Been working and playing more with my D2 character (currently traveling around Kurast). Hopefully I can at least get that quest reward next go around, perhaps even further.

 

[Vildecor]

Just a minor update here:

Sarina, Lvl 31 Mageazon, A5N - Heading for Nihlathak (max 40)


Starting to really need mana badly. Traded out my 'stealth' armor for one socketed with sapphires. Found the great helm and greaves from Sigon's set and am wearing them to help with my ghastly AR. Strength is 71 (54 without charms), Dex around 55-60 with boosts, Life around 90, and mana is finally catching up in the mid 50s.

I plan to get her to level 40 and then do some more tries at Nethack. I feel confident that I can at least get my quest reward. And if I can get that, I might even be able to descend even further.

 

[Gabriel74]

Haemus the wizard is on the plane of Air. Wizards are really hard at the start, but after you get a bunch of good spells you're in like flynn. I have (among others) magic mapping, identify, remove curse, cure sickness, cancellation, and dum dudda duh --Finger of Death--. of course with that last one I am kind of obliged to continue to wear my amulet of reflection instead of one of my amulets of life saving, but, what can you do. I fully believe this one will ascend. :thumbsup:

 

[Vildecor]

Looks like there's been little action since brainfloss's ascension. I did, however, manage to get my D2 character out of normal difficulty, for this tournament's first Destroyer:

Destroyer Sarina, Lvl 37 Mageazon, A1NM

No neat item finds, but the cow level did drop a 35% MF ammy. Might replace my +15 energy +27 mana amulet later on.

Still haven't managed to get a Nethack character past both Sokoban and Mine's End since my highest scoring character. How's everyone else doing?

 

[brainfloss]

Nothing new to add, I haven't yet started my D2 character. Hopefully, we will continue to see some more high scores coming through, and more people in the tournament.

all right I admit it, this was just a bump in disguise

 

[SweetChilli]

Alice gets somewhere!

Alice the nth was doing really quite well, I thought, until she was drowned by an electric eel. D'Oh! :grrr:

But Alice the n+1th is doing even better. Got a wish early on (while dipping my longsword in a fountain to get Excalibur), and after some thought went for blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power, which I haven't regretted - when Tyr gave me Mjollnir, it was thumping time! Nice being able to kill those pesky electric eels and cockatrices from range...

She got down to level 22 and was telepathically aware of Medusa (does reflection work on her stony gaze? Blindness?), but doesn't have any (known) means of crossing water, so lets hope one of these sets of boots is water walking (any way to test this without actually walking on water?). Having run out of space there, I finally felt brave enough to try the quest.

Turns out I could have done this a lot earlier - it was an absolute walkover, and the only problem I had was wondering why Lord Surtur disappeared every time I hit him. Since the Norn had told me to trust in Tyr, I tried praying and was immediately crowned (if I'd known that would happen, I wouldn't have done it), but Lord Surtur kept disappearing. Eventually I worked out that he was teleporting back to the stairs to heal! Since Mjollnir's damage is mostly lightning, I guess the Orb of Fate's half physical damage didn't help him much?

It is nice that you can go back to the quest levels after finishing it, as they're really quite comfortable. Just fire ants and fire giants as monsters, neither of which are a challenge, and the fire giants are actually quite tasty (Mmm, extra strength. Now up to 18/65. Not that I really need it with the Gauntlets, but it's an achievement thing).

If I get another wish though, I'll be seriously tempted to get a blessed bag of holding - Sokoban had the ammy of reflection, and I now have just two regular sacks, so that I can have half my junk in each, and go up stairs by dropping one at the bottom, going up, dropping the other (NOT on the stairwell), down, pick up, up, and get the other. This is somewhat of a nuisance! Luckily yellow dragon scale mail isn't that heavy (why Yellow? 'cos I found a yellow dragon and a scroll of enchant armour!). Scrolls and potions can make up a surprising amount of weight!

I ended up using a scroll of enchant weapon and a potion of confusion to rustproof (and repair) Mjollnir after it got down to thoroughly rusty thoroughly corroded. It's a good thing that that didn't seem to affect its lightning damage!

And then I saved and went to bed.

 

[SabreCat]

Mugh 12 is making his final descent. I've been up and down and up and down through various levels of Gehennom, transmuting potions into full healing to boost my HP, collecting junk that I may or may not tote out of the dungeon, but I think it's time to make a go of it. I have three amulets of life saving, and basically everything else I need (I suppose I could use up to two more scrolls of gold detection, but the planes of Fire and Water don't tend to require them). AC -52, HP 298, level 19. I've even tamed an Aleax, who adamantly refuses to wield Demonbane but otherwise kicks tail. I could probably do a little better, but this is ascendable, I think. Let's just hope for a few more wraith corpses as I tunnel out paths in the last few mazes.

Unfortunately I'm headed off on Spring Break tomorrow morning, so I probably won't be able to complete this until a week from Sunday...!

 

[brainfloss]

Mugh 12 is making his final descent. I've been up and down and up and down through various levels of Gehennom, transmuting potions into full healing to boost my HP, collecting junk that I may or may not tote out of the dungeon, but I think it's time to make a go of it. I have three amulets of life saving, and basically everything else I need (I suppose I could use up to two more scrolls of gold detection, but the planes of Fire and Water don't tend to require them). AC -52, HP 298, level 19. I've even tamed an Aleax, who adamantly refuses to wield Demonbane but otherwise kicks tail. I could probably do a little better, but this is ascendable, I think. Let's just hope for a few more wraith corpses as I tunnel out paths in the last few mazes.

Unfortunately I'm headed off on Spring Break tomorrow morning, so I probably won't be able to complete this until a week from Sunday...!

That character should definitely be able to ascend, my Knight had about 370 hp and AC -42 and had little trouble going up through the Planes, even when I accidentally zapped an Archon and was surrounded by nasties I was only brought down to about 300 hp. Didn't even need one amulet of life saving.

Scrolls of gold detection help on the Planes do they? That's nice to know, I spent forever trying to find the portals out of there.

 

[SabreCat]

That character should definitely be able to ascend, my Knight had about 370 hp and AC -42 and had little trouble going up through the Planes, even when I accidentally zapped an Archon and was surrounded by nasties I was only brought down to about 300 hp. Didn't even need one amulet of life saving.

Well, as it turns out, I just couldn't bear to wait. I pushed for the ascension, and got it. Primes. And I still have to get up in the morning and pack. ^_^``

Goodbye Mugh 12 the Demigoddess...

You went to your reward with 4098466 points​

The detailed report of interesting things that happened (and there were a few), though, will have to wait a week. In the meantime, I've uploaded the text dump of the ascension with final stats and whatnot to some Web space for you all to ponder at.

I did not, however, beat brainfloss's score, so I guess this puts me in second place. Can't complain about that, though... one more notch on the belt, ha.

Scrolls of gold detection help on the Planes do they? That's nice to know, I spent forever trying to find the portals out of there.

Heh, yes. Cursed gold detection will show up a pile of gold where the traps are (not useful on Plane of Fire); confused noncursed gold detection will reveal all traps as they are. Since magic portals count as traps, this is handy indeed. You can also use a crystal ball to reveal "^", but orbs are heavy--that's an option for Valkyries whose quest artifact's a ball, tho.

 

[brainfloss]

Started a SC trial run of my D2 character today (will most likely play a Hammerdin, minus the Vigor synergy as my character can't use defensive auras) - I am very glad that it wasn't the real thing, as I died in the Jail to a lightining-enchanted goat man... :cyclops:

On another note, I realised that Nethack is a walk in the park compared to some other rogue-alikes: games like Dungeon Crawl and ADOM, which I previously thought were a fair amount easier than nethack!