Diablo II meets Nethack Tournament

Great work brainfloss - first one to Hell :clap:I agree with you on using dual weapons. I try to do that with all of my charaters.

I made a few more futile attempts at leveling a Tourist, but failed each time on dungeon level 7*sigh*

So instead I started my Hammerdin. Cletous sits at the Stony Field WP at clvl12. Nothing eventful happened, pretty standard opening.

Rachel the female, neutral Tourist RIP Gnomish Mines lvl13
Cletous the Hammerdin lvl12 (allowed to level to 32)
 
Chung Tzu (the second incarnation) has now died.

Level 13 Student of Stones Envoy of Balance Resistant to everything Lucky

18/25 18 18 12 16 14

Dlvl 22

156,794 points

Stupid leprechaun reading a blessed scroll of create monster. Oh well
 
Today i started playing d2 char , and now Valkata is 15 lvl sorceress at jail lvl 1. Everything was easy , but off couse punching things in start wasn't very interesting....
 
Grrrrrrrr :mad: :rant: :mad:

Some things you're just never quite prepared for are you?

Like killing the Wizard of Yendor, only to have one of the liches summon Yeenoghu, who apparently has a one is 650 chance to summon Demogorgon, the most powerful creature in the game... Guess who shows up?

Grodon hung in there as long as he could, but not even two life saving amulets could get him out of this one. On his last life and with 7 hit points left, I got out of there... Still, I'm very pleased with how far I managed to take him, easily the best character I've ever had.



Final Attributes:

You were piously aligned.
You were fire resistant.
You were cold resistant.
You were sleep resistant.
You were disintegration-resistant.
You were shock resistant.
You were poison resistant.
You were level-drain resistant.
You were magic-protected.
You were stunned.
You were sick from illness.
You saw invisible.
You were telepathic.
You had automatic searching.
You could jump.
You had teleport control.
You were levitating.
You were protected.
You were very fast.
You had reflection.
You were wielding two weapons at once.
You were extremely lucky. <- :confused:
You had extra luck.
Good luck did not time out for you.
You survived after being killed twice.


Vanquished creatures:

Asmodeus
Baalzebub
Orcus
Juiblex
The Wizard of Yendor
an arch-lich
4 mastodons
Medusa
8 krakens
5 iron golems
2 master liches
8 storm giants
7 glass golems
4 balrogs
5 purple worms
2 gray dragons
a silver dragon
5 red dragons
2 white dragons
an orange dragon
4 black dragons
a blue dragon
3 green dragons
a yellow dragon
26 minotaurs
7 jabberwocks
Ixoth
3 baluchitheria
5 demiliches
Vlad the Impaler
6 stone golems
a master mind flayer
13 Olog-hai
a Nazgul
4 pit fiends
14 sandestins
3 hell hounds
10 titanotheres
9 trappers
2 baby red dragons
a baby white dragon
2 baby orange dragons
a baby blue dragon
a baby yellow dragon
5 disenchanters
30 vampire lords
5 skeletons
an aligned priest
5 captains
6 shades
5 liches
8 clay golems
16 nurses
2 ice devils
3 nalfeshnees
6 lurkers above
3 frost giants
5 ettins
a golden naga
14 black puddings
26 vampires
6 lieutenants
a watch captain
29 ghosts
a rogue
2 queen bees
6 winged gargoyles
5 mind flayers
13 giant mimics
5 zruties
2 fire giants
9 ogre kings
7 ice trolls
7 rock trolls
10 umber hulks
3 flesh golems
4 Elvenkings
4 doppelgangers
15 hezrous
16 bone devils
11 large mimics
7 wumpuses
3 fire vortices
11 long worms
2 couatls
11 stalkers
6 air elementals
7 fire elementals
4 earth elementals
6 water elementals
11 hill giants
5 giant mummies
a black naga
11 xorns
16 giant zombies
13 elf-lords
10 sergeants
a water demon
4 barbed devils
18 vrocks
3 salamanders
16 wargs
6 winter wolves
2 hell hound pups
10 small mimics
7 glass piercers
16 warhorses
7 steam vortices
12 xans
7 ettin mummies
15 ogre lords
10 quantum mechanics
35 trolls
5 wood golems
3 erinyes
5 mariliths
4 sharks
6 electric eels
7 gelatinous cubes
3 pyrolisks
5 large dogs
2 freezing spheres
8 flaming spheres
13 shocking spheres
5 large cats
6 tigers
10 gargoyles
a dwarf king
3 tengu
33 ochre jellies
12 leocrottas
3 energy vortices
8 mountain centaurs
a stone giant
2 elf mummies
6 human mummies
a red naga
2 green slimes
10 pit vipers
7 pythons
8 cobras
34 wraiths
5 carnivorous apes
18 ettin zombies
7 leather golems
17 Grey-elves
53 soldiers
a watchman
4 horned devils
6 succubi
6 incubi
15 chameleons
a crocodile
16 giant beetles
4 quivering blobs
28 cockatrices
15 wolves
3 winter wolf cubs
6 lynxes
7 panthers
40 gremlins
3 spotted jellies
3 leprechauns
2 orc-captains
10 iron piercers
5 mumakil
10 giant spiders
6 scorpions
4 horses
5 ice vortices
6 black lights
13 vampire bats
5 forest centaurs
8 gnome kings
3 orc mummies
6 dwarf mummies
11 ogres
12 brown puddings
10 rust monsters
15 owlbears
11 yetis
4 gold golems
7 werewolves
22 Green-elves
2 piranhas
10 giant eels
12 lizards
6 chickatrices
4 dogs
3 dingos
4 housecats
10 jaguars
2 dwarf lords
11 blue jellies
a gray unicorn
2 black unicorns
11 dust vortices
10 ravens
9 plains centaurs
5 gnome mummies
7 snakes
3 water moccasins
4 apes
17 human zombies
3 rope golems
17 Woodland-elves
25 soldier ants
4 fire ants
15 bugbears
an imp
4 lemures
68 quasits
a wood nymph
8 water nymphs
4 mountain nymphs
10 Mordor orcs
37 Uruk-hai
4 orc shamans
7 rock piercers
7 rock moles
4 ponies
2 fog clouds
13 yellow lights
10 violet fungi
19 gnome lords
7 gnomish wizards
5 kobold mummies
5 gray oozes
5 barrow wights
13 elf zombies
11 ghouls
a straw golem
8 paper golems
5 jellyfish
2 baby crocodiles
9 giant ants
3 little dogs
5 floating eyes
4 kittens
a dwarf
3 homunculi
3 kobold lords
6 kobold shamans
40 hill orcs
25 rothes
a rabid rat
a centipede
8 giant bats
2 monkeys
17 orc zombies
12 dwarf zombies
a wererat
9 iguanas
90 killer bees
17 acid blobs
3 coyotes
a gas spore
a hobbit
15 manes
6 large kobolds
12 hobgoblins
9 giant rats
5 cave spiders
2 brown molds
3 yellow molds
a red mold
49 gnomes
21 garter snakes
9 gnome zombies
5 geckos
10 jackals
4 foxes
3 kobolds
4 goblins
7 sewer rats
9 grid bugs
5 bats
4 lichens
9 kobold zombies
6 newts

2335 creatures vanquished.


Fare thee well Grodon the Knight...

You quit in Gehennom on dungeon level 42 with 1877155 points,
and 22431 pieces of gold, after 47316 moves.
You were level 21 with a maximum of 220 hit points when you quit.
 
Grrr! I solved Sokoban, but got killed by the swarm in the big room from: a)being blinded by a raven, b) running out of arrows, and c) was unskilled in my backup weapon and had no potions, etc. I doubt using my magic missile wand would've saved me, but it might have helped. I guess I will still have the same level limit for my D2 character since although I solved Sokoban, I failed to get the prize and get the hell out of there.

I at least figured out my strategy...see swarms of monsters (esp. ants and bees), just stay one space away from a doorway and fire tons of arrows. Only melee creatures when I'm one-on-one with something that won't kill me.

@brainfloss: :worship: :worship:
Don't think I'll EVER get to that point! I am greatly impressed.
 
Vildecor said:
@brainfloss: :worship: :worship:
Don't think I'll EVER get to that point! I am greatly impressed.
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Awww shucks :p Remember, the spoiler files that were linked on the first page are your friend!


What were the rules for leveling D2 characters again? Was their max level related to your character level, or to the lowest dungeon level you reached?
 
brainfloss said:
Awww shucks :p Remember, the spoiler files that were linked on the first page are your friend!


What were the rules for leveling D2 characters again? Was their max level related to your character level, or to the lowest dungeon level you reached?
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The spoilers *are* your friend. I have them open everytime I play. It isn't cheating any more than using a walkthrough in diablo II is...

Brainfloss, your level is unrestricted because you entered Gehennom. It'd be the same if you solved the quest, which you probably did - not Sokoban now, I decided it was too easy, especially with the spoilers available.

flamearrows
 
i hate nethack so much... yet i love it, the commands, no matter how much i look them up, continue to confuse me, i spend more time trying to figure out how to do stuff, followed by instant deaths, that i do actually playing >.< ive decided to do monk rather than archaelogist, starting in about 1 minute, wish me luck!!!(not the bad kind or you shall pay)
 
Bad, BAD Trenshadow!

...for pointing this out to me. Now I've spent all weekend playing Nethack, when I should have been doing Useful Things (TM). This may even be cool enough to unlurk (normally I just sneak in to read Stony's Grand Tours)!

Ok, choices: I started out playing a few random classes, and it now seems to me that given the relative difficulties of the two games, choosing an easy Nethack character is the most important thing. Valkyries are nice; an Amazon should be able to cope in D2 (if I ever get around to playing that part of the tourney :uhhuh: ).

Name and stuff. For hysterical reasons, Valkyries should be called Alice, and so it shall be; her D2 counterpart shall be Valerie the Amazon. Other names: in D2 you have a companion who follows you around and helps you identify things, so Alice shall have a little dog called Deckard.

Hm, I wonder if I can train Deckard Cain to steal things from Charsi for me? :scratch:

Many deaths ensued (Juiblex on level 3 of the dungeon?). Much time was wasted. Finally an incarnation of Alice started to get somewhere...

Deckard walked into a trap early on, which was very sad, and almost reason to do something stupid (brave! I said "brave") and restart, as who would I have to eat the entire contents of the Gnomish mines without him (being a lawful dwarven Valkyrie, the mines are quite restful for me, but Deckard eats a lot of gnomes and grows into a big dog)? But then I found a tripe ration, and convinced another dog to be my friend instead. Some of the later events would have been more entertaining if it WAS Deckard, but oh well.

Picked up Excalibur from a pool, found a bag of holding, and was running around with an AC of -7, which with over 100 hp was fine. I was thwarted in Sokoban by my dog getting behind a boulder, falling into the pit, and so when I pushed the boulder, it sat on top of the dog, in the pit! He survived, but the boulder ended up on top of the stairs to the next level, as I stupidly pushed it again. Oh well.

The fun started not too long after that. With help from spoilers, I managed to determine that a wand was only one of a certain set, but I didn't know which one. All fairly innocuous wands, but I needed a test subject. So I zapped it on my pooch to see how he liked it. It turned out my calculations were mistaken; it was in fact polymorph. So now Alice was wandering the Dungeons of Doom with her tame Silver Dragon. I've had worse surprises...

Later on I encountered one of my ghosts, and happened to remember that a certain wand was one of "make invisible". Zap self. Enjoy! (useful to have a mummy wrapping to keep the shopkeepers happy though).

The down side of having a pet Dragon is that it gets hard killing things yourself, as the Dragon beats you to it an awful lot of the time. Maybe that's why I wasn't experienced enough to start my quest?

Many things died horrible deaths at Alice's sword point (fewer at dagger and pickaxe point, but some, nonetheless). At one stage she knew 5 spells, most of which had 100% failure rates even when naked! But then those leprechauns went mad with their wands of digging, and Alice fell through a hole and was separated from her companion (who had ceased to be a silver dragon, deciding to be a shrieker instead, thanks to a polymorph trap. I zapped the shrieker and turned him into a red naga hatchling. Good enough). A nasty were bit her, and when she became a were herself, it did bad things to her armour, so when she hit a level teleporter and ended up back on level two, all she had on was her (original) shield and some boots. Excalibur still worked, fortunately.

Heading back down the stairs, she found to her regret that monsters aren't just generated based on dungeon level, but on how tough you are. A bunch of grey elves weakened her, and a plains centaur finished her off (at 1 hp, she tried praying, but obviously wasn't in favour with Tyr). :grrr:

No Points Name Hp [max]
1 152215 Alice-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law died in The Dungeons of Doom on
level 4 [max 16]. Killed by a plains centaur, while
helpless. - [140]

So are we counting the maximum level reached, or the maximum level died on? And this is all in nethack 3.3.1 - is this ok, or does it have to be later than this?

And just for my info, how big is an Atma stash? Is there a Mac version of Atma?
 
Hi Steve!! :p

I've been playing NH for the last week or so at work too - trying to understand how it works ;)

ATMA stash = unlimited in size :D No Mac version of it yet (see the emails Mark and I sent each other a couple of weeks back...) Put it on the PC, or use it inside Virtual PC if you have it (See the 'muling guide' sticky for more info if you haven't already).
 
Hi SweetChilli, and welcome to the tournament! Any friend of Trenshadow is definetly a friend of mine. I'll add you to the ranking next time around - that's a very impressive score for a beginner, even given that valkyries are far and away the easiest class ;) Are you in too, Trenshadow?

I have decided that I probably won't play the diablo part of this tourney - hence, I cannot win. But, I'll be happy to administer some buttock-prodding on the nethack side, even given my abyssmally bad luck with tourists.

next score update shall... be when I feel like it ;)

flamearrows
 
Methinks Wizard might not be the best noobie choice... :/
After countless tries, the best I've made is Dlevel 5...
On the other hand, trying ONE knight netted me Dlevel 6

Okay, anyhow:
Top score: Wizard, lvl 6, Dlvl 5, 3007 pts
 
Nethack is great!

Even tho i'm not planning on entering this particular tourney at the moment(i'm moderating the alphabet tourney right now), I have to say that it's one of the most addictive games I've ever played. I basically spent all weekend trying different characters.

I've tried barbarians, archaelogists, and a couple of knights, but my fav class is definitely the caveman. There's nothing like the feeling of bashing things into the ground with a club...even tho I am too dumb to understand spellbooks and so am blinded every time I try to read one.

In my current game I am in dlvl 7 or so, which is probably the farthest I've gotten to this point, since I've only been playing a couple of days. My dwarven caveman randomly found a cloak of invisibility and some boots of levitation, and I think they have helped me to survive. And I just killed a unicorn and am going to try the horn out as a weapon.

It's a good thing I'm not in college anymore...if I had discovered Nethack as well as D2 while I was there, my GPA might very well have been lower than it already was...
 
I don't think I'll be able to play the D2 side of this tourney (just moved house and don't have my PC set up yet, dunno when I'll even have time to do that, let alone play D2 :(), but I will keep trying with NH while at work and I'll post my status from time to time ;)
 
Flamearrows said:
Hi SweetChilli, and welcome to the tournament! Any friend of Trenshadow is definetly a friend of mine. I'll add you to the ranking next time around - that's a very impressive score for a beginner, even given that valkyries are far and away the easiest class ;) Are you in too, Trenshadow?
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I did mention that I wasted most of the weekend, didn't I? ;)

Call me a wuss, but nethack == fiendishly difficult, so taking a more difficult class in this part of the tourney seems... inadvisable.
 
SweetChilli said:
I did mention that I wasted most of the weekend, didn't I? ;)

Call me a wuss, but nethack == fiendishly difficult, so taking a more difficult class in this part of the tourney seems... inadvisable.
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The way I'm going at the moment, it may be easier for me to ascend a nethack character than to take a D2 character to Guardian...



Anyway, no real updates of note - Zorn the Knight made it to near the bottom of the Mines (and avenged the death of another charcter at the hands of a fire-horn using gnome) before being zapped with a wand of sleep/paralysis and killed before getting a chance to fight back. He led an interesting life though - being forced to zap a wand of digging down to avoid certain death more than once, and seeing a gargoyle on only level 10 or so (gargoyles could damage Grodon if he wasn't careful, imagine what they could do to a newbie character), and a black unicorn on level 8 that hurt quite a lot... He'll have an interesting bones file though - an amulet of unchanging and a nice sword.

I'm not going to start the D2 part of the tournament for a little while yet, unless I ascend somebody (and I really thought Grodon might be able to do just that).
 
What an interesting life my current character is leading! The first tourist that has managed to get a wish, his prospects were looking good with an armour class of -2 on xp level one. Mmmm, blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail. I took my dog with me, and levelled up to xp 5 before hitting the mines. I fought my way down, weaponless save for my stack of darts until I got to minetown. I fought valiantly, and levelled up to xp 8 killing and sacrificing on the altar before I scored Vorpal Blade. My dog was a veritable beast by this point, and killed off the entirety of the watch, making me a happy chappy. I got a magic lamp from Izchack (NOTE: to the newbies,don't EVER kill Izchak. I'll explain in just a moment) but it was uncursed, not blessed. So, with all of the guards dead I'd thought I'd go for a water prayer to bless the lamp. I dipped a potion I had in the fountain to get water to bless, and a water demon pops up. He immediately summons a Vrock. The Vrock summons Jubilex. I start swearing.

I wield a silver sabre, and start running. I get almost to the stairs before jubliex engulfs me. I hammer on him, and end up sick. I pray. Sickness cured. I hammer on him some more, and he dies, but not before making me sick. I quaff my potion of extra healing. Phew... down to 30 HP after the potion. My dog has polished off the Vrock, and I kill the water demon. I am now xp 9, and with a grudge against all major demons.

Anyway, I'm still alive, and kicking. AC -9, and looking for that elusive luckstone at the bottom of the mines. But before I go back, a note to those who aren't Nethack veterans. Izchak shouldn't be killed out of respect for the man who he was created as a result of - Izchak was one of the members of the original Devteam (the ones that make nethack) who died of cancer in 1991. The Devteam made him a shopkeeper and he is always there - after all, he sells something essential for ascention, hint, hint. Even someone who would cheerfully slaughter everything else will spare Izchak's life, and so should you.

flamearrows

flamearrows
 
Jaina the Knight had a somewhat full existence, though not a charmed one.

She falied to find an aligned altar, or many useful tools - she also spent a fair amount of time in a severly altered state of mind from a bad potion, and couldn't find that damn luckstone that would've made her life a lot easier, especially when dual-wielding. She did however find a polymorph trap that made her feel like a new man, and also a cloak of displacement (which was lost as a result of another polymorph).

She (he, by this point) also found a leocrotta spawned on the Oracle level, which I'd teleported away several times, and I did so again, only to find my wand had run out and the beast took away a third of my hit points. Fortunately I had another one, so I zapped it away and headed for the up stairs. Of course, the beast was waiting for me... Would you like your possessions identified?
 
Haven't been doing much for this tourney in the past couple of days, but I am making significant progress with Mugh 12. Finally uncursed all of Mugh 11's stuff when I got a blue aura after a holy-water prayer--yay! Cleared Sokoban, but the prize was the bag, which I already had. Even in the event that I blow it up, which I really really hope I don't, there's a shop selling one in the dungeon. I also cleared the Mines, and now have a blessed luckstone. I've had a few scary moments, like an endless stream of snakes from a fountain, but have always been able to retreat (in that case, taking one step to displace my pet and get off the fountain, then zapping a wand of digging down) and recover.

I have an excellent assortment of stuff, now, only a few items short of what I'll need for the endgame. If my luck holds up I may be able to go wishless. I'm really in need of a solid weapon, as right now I'm using a rusty corroded +something trident, and some means of reflection. My gray dragon scales have saved me from wands of magic missiles and death (a leprechaun in the Sokoban zoo had it! I hope it still has charges), but I may yet be toast if I ever meet a black dragon.

Still have not found a single scroll of identify. I do know what enchant armor looks like, though, so one of these days I'll get those scales fixed up, I hope. Armor is still touchy at the moment without it: AC -6, and almost everything damaged somehow. On further thought I may need wishes for magic markers... I do have a collection of magic whistles, but haven't yet ID'ed polymorph wands.

Wish me luck as I delve further! Though I guess I do have "extra luck" now... ^_^ Next project is dragging some bags of tricks to a coaligned temple hoping for an artifact.
 
the guidebook leaves me strangely unfullfilled as to how i am supposed to do stuff, and what i can do, can someone who has extensive knowledge of this game send me some info like, on what items do... like why would you need a magic marker, or what the whistles will ever be used for, etc. if you would be so kind, my email address is [email protected] (the t at end of turner is supposed to be there)
 
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