Create Your Own Role Mafia game

If thefranklin has the card, then the cootie list is a lie, so both flubb and Moar are scum.
Other explanation, is that the card was already given out (before thefranklin did on N3)
Lets try not to fail at quotes this time.

Other explanation doesn't work. Just checked over the tarot actions again.

Possible that CG lied. I don't see the reason for it, but if thefranklin doesn't have the card... Unless someone else has an explanation?
 
I'm at work and having a spot of coffee and thoroughly surprised at the lack of discussion. I'm not surprised at Gwaihir's OMGUS vote, but more on that shortly.

Interesting, I think we have different definitions of OMGUS. Mine is when someone votes for another player because that person has been putting pressure on them, and not for any listed facts. You voted me first, today, but did not list any reasons for the vote. I on the other hand built a case against you yesterday, and followed up on it today with my vote because I thought yesterday we were in a dangerous position. Therefore, in my opinion you are the one "Oh my God you suck" voting.

Rereading my PM, it shows the word NEW before the cooties infection. I'm going with this meaning these three have not been targeted yet this game, which leaves me with the possibility of the NK operative being able to move covertly since he/she is already infected with cooties. Any thoughts from anyone??

...You have to be wrong on this one. BA bussed you Night 1. kegs bussed CG Night 3. In case you forgot, Sath as Dr. FRANK took the Kingmaker role from you Night 3. How did you even come up with this as an option?

Also, look at the text on the power. "In short: you are given a list of players who were targeted by someone, anyone, that night. You're not told who did the targeting nor what roles targeted each victim."

So in short, no.

And Gwaihir, your only sound point toward me has been I'm still alive. But you are still alive as well so your point is hollow. I have stated things clearly and be quite transparent. Your vote on me doesn't help your townie-ness. Surely you can't see me as a key player the mafia would want to eliminate early.....:rolf:

Sigh. See listed reasons - you were pretty much a sure kill for the mafia that night. You would not be driven, you did not have an anti-NK power. And killing you brought the huge perk of possibly hiding who had the king, which might have been game winning in unknown mafia hands.


Here's the kicker, CG didn't intend on giving out the no day card, but was more interested in people's reaction to it. He suspected Flubb and Kestegs for not having a reaction at all and Moar and Martin for being supportive. Naturally I passed with flying colours :smug:, and he also trusted Franklin.

He also felt that Malev was scum and again with Moar being named as potential scum I will once again implore people to lynch Moar first and then look for her partner. Flubb was also named by CG and his vote on Gwaihir seems way off, especially as his cootie detector just confirmed Gwaihir's targets. But here is where it gets complicated.

CG said he gave out the high priestess card to thefranklin. He used the past tense twice, so I'm sure he PM'ed Goryani with his card choice. Franklin made no post saying he got the card and no one else came forward. Franklin also wasnt on the cootie detector. Which might give some credence to Flubb's idea of new cooties only showing up, which then means Gwaihir could be lying about his bus driver targets.

As I, and CG, trusted Franklin I'm willing to believe he would have come forward with the card had he recieved it. If only for townie points when everyone thought a no day card would have been given out. Since Moar confirmed Flubb's cootie list there's no questioning that. Personally I'm willing to name Gwaihir as the last scum.

Vote: Moar

Wow. See above, Cootie detector logic is terrible. Which makes me think that eith CG did not trust you at all in the discussion, or you are making stuff up. Pretty much suspisious of everything you are saying here, especially as

However, since I am not sure I will be able to get back on and change my vote before days end, due to internet demons, I’m willing to make a change here and now if it will secure a lynch. Hopefully I will be able to log back in later. I’m leaving work in about 15 minutes so I’ll do what I can now

Unvote: Gwaihir

Vote: Moar

And then the person I am most suspicious of immediately follows Sath in changing his vote.

This makes me worried about Sath even more, especially the insistance that Mal was scum and that we had no chance at being in MYLO. Also there is the fact that flubb gave Sath the king role when it was removed. These two seem to be pretty tied together, I would bet if flubb comes up scum, Sath will too.

I am also very worried about anyone else voting Moar - if there is a third scum out there, one misvote and the game is done.
 
Lets try not to fail at quotes this time.

Other explanation doesn't work. Just checked over the tarot actions again.

Possible that CG lied. I don't see the reason for it, but if thefranklin doesn't have the card... Unless someone else has an explanation?

Other option: Sath is lying.
 
I did give that same card to Pyro the night before. If he doesn't lose it on the last laugh death, then it would not have been in the deck. And me not showing up on the cookies list follows the same logic as the dr frank cd.

Flub, you have been on the cookies list the last two nights. And you are trying to reflect the heat to ML, when he has already explained his actions in detail.
 
I did give that same card to Pyro the night before. If he doesn't lose it on the last laugh death, then it would not have been in the deck. And me not showing up on the cookies list follows the same logic as the dr frank cd.
The recipient retains possession of the card so long as they are alive. Once a fortune is told, that fortune is no longer in the deck and can't be used to tell the future of another. Unused cards return to the deck upon death of the recipient.

Just laying down all possibilities. Since Pyro would have gotten the card at night, before death, it is possible he used it on someone.

I'm going to be gone for most of the day, so I won't be back before day-end here. I still feel flubbs is the best target. Today his game was surprising to day the least, a bad logic on the vote to Gwaihir, using half-assd arguments to paint me as scum. It's like he thinks he is backed up into a corner all ready.

Vote: flubbucket
 
Just laying down all possibilities. Since Pyro would have gotten the card at night, before death, it is possible he used it on someone.

I'm going to be gone for most of the day, so I won't be back before day-end here. I still feel flubbs is the best target. Today his game was surprising to day the least, a bad logic on the vote to Gwaihir, using half-assd arguments to paint me as scum. It's like he thinks he is backed up into a corner all ready.

Vote: flubbucket
EDITED: Read the wrong text on the Tarot ability. Saw "This is a day ability" but it was for wheel of fortune specifically. The cards are sent out at night, correct? So, what I said here about Pyro couldn't work.
 
EDITED: Read the wrong text on the Tarot ability. Saw "This is a day ability" but it was for wheel of fortune specifically. The cards are sent out at night, correct? So, what I said here about Pyro couldn't work.

This. I was given the sun by kegs on Night 1, I did not receive it until the end of the night.
 
Wow. See above, Cootie detector logic is terrible. Which makes me think that eith CG did not trust you at all in the discussion, or you are making stuff up. Pretty much suspisious of everything you are saying here, especially as

This makes me worried about Sath even more, especially the insistance that Mal was scum and that we had no chance at being in MYLO. Also there is the fact that flubb gave Sath the king role when it was removed. These two seem to be pretty tied together, I would bet if flubb comes up scum, Sath will too.

I am also very worried about anyone else voting Moar - if there is a third scum out there, one misvote and the game is done.

Upon checking the doc card, it is possible Pyro used it the night he received it. Thereby there was no card in the deck to give to franklin and he wasn't targeted. The role actually says: "You’ll spend all night looking for that specific card and never get around to telling a fortune that night."

So that discredits the cootie detector idea, but changes little for me. Suspects remain.

especially the insistance that Mal was scum and that we had no chance at being in MYLO

How about Moar's insistence that Malev was town and we were in mylo? Fact remains we need to lynch and we need to lynch scum, scare stories aren't going to help.
 
Here's the kicker, CG didn't intend on giving out the no day card, but was more interested in people's reaction to it. He suspected Flubb and Kestegs for not having a reaction at all and Moar and Martin for being supportive. Naturally I passed with flying colours :smug:, and he also trusted Franklin.

He also felt that Malev was scum and again with Moar being named as potential scum I will once again implore people to lynch Moar first and then look for her partner. Flubb was also named by CG and his vote on Gwaihir seems way off, especially as his cootie detector just confirmed Gwaihir's targets. But here is where it gets complicated.

CG said he gave out the high priestess card to thefranklin. He used the past tense twice, so I'm sure he PM'ed Goryani with his card choice. Franklin made no post saying he got the card and no one else came forward. Franklin also wasnt on the cootie detector. Which might give some credence to Flubb's idea of new cooties only showing up, which then means Gwaihir could be lying about his bus driver targets.

As I, and CG, trusted Franklin I'm willing to believe he would have come forward with the card had he recieved it. If only for townie points when everyone thought a no day card would have been given out. Since Moar confirmed Flubb's cootie list there's no questioning that. Personally I'm willing to name Gwaihir as the last scum.

Vote: Moar

Sounds like he didn't give out a card at all. Otherwise it would have to be with one of the bussed targets. It's possible that it ended up back on himself or one of the other two. That could be good or bad depending on what card he gave out, but I kinda doubt he gave out the no night card assuming he was town.


Lets try not to fail at quotes this time.

Other explanation doesn't work. Just checked over the tarot actions again.

Possible that CG lied. I don't see the reason for it, but if thefranklin doesn't have the card... Unless someone else has an explanation?

Guess I kinda covered this above, I don't see any other explanations.

Interesting, I think we have different definitions of OMGUS. Mine is when someone votes for another player because that person has been putting pressure on them, and not for any listed facts. You voted me first, today, but did not list any reasons for the vote. I on the other hand built a case against you yesterday, and followed up on it today with my vote because I thought yesterday we were in a dangerous position. Therefore, in my opinion you are the one "Oh my God you suck" voting.

...You have to be wrong on this one. BA bussed you Night 1. kegs bussed CG Night 3. In case you forgot, Sath as Dr. FRANK took the Kingmaker role from you Night 3. How did you even come up with this as an option?

Also, look at the text on the power. "In short: you are given a list of players who were targeted by someone, anyone, that night. You're not told who did the targeting nor what roles targeted each victim."

So in short, no.

Sigh. See listed reasons - you were pretty much a sure kill for the mafia that night. You would not be driven, you did not have an anti-NK power. And killing you brought the huge perk of possibly hiding who had the king, which might have been game winning in unknown mafia hands.

Wow. See above, Cootie detector logic is terrible. Which makes me think that eith CG did not trust you at all in the discussion, or you are making stuff up. Pretty much suspisious of everything you are saying here, especially as

And then the person I am most suspicious of immediately follows Sath in changing his vote.

This makes me worried about Sath even more, especially the insistance that Mal was scum and that we had no chance at being in MYLO. Also there is the fact that flubb gave Sath the king role when it was removed. These two seem to be pretty tied together, I would bet if flubb comes up scum, Sath will too.

I am also very worried about anyone else voting Moar - if there is a third scum out there, one misvote and the game is done.

I agree that your vote was founded yesterday as it was a logical case.

I also agree that I can see a connection between Sath and flub possible.

I still have a hard time buying moar as town, I've not felt like I could trust her since D1. However, we do need to be careful about our votes.

EDITED: Read the wrong text on the Tarot ability. Saw "This is a day ability" but it was for wheel of fortune specifically. The cards are sent out at night, correct? So, what I said here about Pyro couldn't work.

Yes, cards go out at night. Some are day or night use though.

Right now I'd like to vote for flub, but I'll hold a bit to make sure we don't make a hasty decision.
 
Sounds like he didn't give out a card at all. Otherwise it would have to be with one of the bussed targets. It's possible that it ended up back on himself or one of the other two. That could be good or bad depending on what card he gave out, but I kinda doubt he gave out the no night card assuming he was town.

He gave out the Doc card to franklin, I'm sure of it.
 
I did give that same card to Pyro the night before. If he doesn't lose it on the last laugh death, then it would not have been in the deck. And me not showing up on the cookies list follows the same logic as the dr frank cd.

Flub, you have been on the cookies list the last two nights. And you are trying to reflect the heat to ML, when he has already explained his actions in detail.

Yeah Verizon fixed their jaked-up nonsense!!

What does "on the cookies list" mean??

You are welcome to lynch me. However I will flip town no doubt.

I'm willing to entertain the notion Sathoris is lying since he insists Moar is lying. I'm not convinced she's as scummy as he says she is. I did want to make sure we got a lynch instead of no lynch.

Unvote: Moar

Vote: Sathoris
 
Because that is a day action card. The High Priestess is a night action card..

Here is how I think the Tarot role works:
Role Randomization + day play: kegs receives role
Night targets chosen: kegs gives card
Night actions resolved: target gets card. If it had a night action, target could not use it as the action phase is gone.

I think this would be the same for any card - otherwise it avoids a bus. I do not think a card can be handed out and used in the same night.

Sounds like he didn't give out a card at all. Otherwise it would have to be with one of the bussed targets. It's possible that it ended up back on himself or one of the other two. That could be good or bad depending on what card he gave out, but I kinda doubt he gave out the no night card assuming he was town.

I would think he gave out a card as either mafia or as town - if he didn't as mafia, town would question why he didn't.
I agree with this. Unless both flubb and Moar are both lying, he gave a card to a bussed target. Can't target self (flubb doesn't have it), and I don't see him targeting flubb (ML would ahve it). Therefore, my bet is he targeted ML and it went back to him.

I agree that your vote was founded yesterday as it was a logical case.

I also agree that I can see a connection between Sath and flub possible.

I still have a hard time buying moar as town, I've not felt like I could trust her since D1. However, we do need to be careful about our votes.

Right now I'd like to vote for flub, but I'll hold a bit to make sure we don't make a hasty decision.

Fair.
 
Yeah Verizon fixed their jaked-up nonsense!!

What does "on the cookies list" mean??

You are welcome to lynch me. However I will flip town no doubt.

I'm willing to entertain the notion Sathoris is lying since he insists Moar is lying. I'm not convinced she's as scummy as he says she is. I did want to make sure we got a lynch instead of no lynch.

Unvote: Moar

Vote: Sathoris

A minute ago you were for a moar lynch but now you're not?

Looks like you are now trying to burn the bridge between you and Sath since you might get lynched and we'll likely lynch Sath tomorrow.
 
Here is how I think the Tarot role works:
Role Randomization + day play: kegs receives role
Night targets chosen: kegs gives card
Night actions resolved: target gets card. If it had a night action, target could not use it as the action phase is gone.

The High Priestess

You may use this card to protect someone this night. Their death will be prevented.

Tiny Print:
This is a night action.
This is a standard doc save.
You may target yourself.

Note that is says this night. Look our options are clear. Either CG gave out the card, but couldn't because Pyro already used or he gave out the no day card to someone and they are keeping it secret. Assuming the cootie detector is working as intented, it's in the hands of one of those two.
 
Yeah Verizon fixed their jaked-up nonsense!!

What does "on the cookies list" mean??

You are welcome to lynch me. However I will flip town no doubt.

I'm willing to entertain the notion Sathoris is lying since he insists Moar is lying. I'm not convinced she's as scummy as he says she is. I did want to make sure we got a lynch instead of no lynch.

Unvote: Moar

Vote: Sathoris

So you make me king not two days ago and now you try to distance yourself from me? Besides what could I be lying about?I've given you everything I learned from CG, whether he did what he told me I cannot confrm or deny, I'm operating off the idea that he did what he told me. If you disagree, fine. Then you come up with an idea of what happened with the cards.
 
It's fine by me if you believe he gave the card (any card) to Martin and had it redirected to himself. I believe he gave the doc card to franklin but because Pyro used it nothing got sent out. Either way there is no card in the hands of any living player. Let's move on.
 
It's fine by me if you believe he gave the card (any card) to Martin and had it redirected to himself. I believe he gave the doc card to franklin but because Pyro used it nothing got sent out. Either way there is no card in the hands of any living player. Let's move on.

I still think it could be among the bussed targets. However, I agree that we need to move on as there's no proof and it's not getting us anywhere.
 
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