Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
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You agreeing with me? Hot damn...
Maybe I should be voting for you instead.
You agreeing with me? Hot damn...
Maybe I should be voting for you instead.
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
Wait, seriously? Voting for me because I decide to random vote to get some conversation started, and then almost immediately change my vote to something with a little more substance than a RNG vote? I don't like it when people "psuedo-random" vote by declaring a vote on someone for a silly reason. It seems contrived and serves only to distract people from posts of real substance. Doing a mathematically pure random vote in the first couple of posts in the game because absolutely nothing has been said is much different than that.
They would have knowledge if they were in a group together. It's a flimsy pretense to be sure, but something I picked up on because nothing else of value had been said up to that point. Something is better than nothing.
This is a HUGE slip even more than the coju thing. Having had several games under my belt now as mafia, I can say that there have been many times when I would slip up while typing and say something like this when I meant to make it more general and "Townie-like." I had to studiously reread my posts before posting, and even then I felt like I said certain incriminating things that made me sweat. and you know the first thing I did? try to put the heat on someone else so my post slips into the background.
And look at that, Bad Ash's very next post is to hop on someone else's bandwagon, with no other evidence to back it up I might add.
Unvote: coju
Vote: Bad Ash
Wait, seriously? Voting for me because I decide to random vote to get some conversation started, and then almost immediately change my vote to something with a little more substance than a RNG vote? I don't like it when people "psuedo-random" vote by declaring a vote on someone for a silly reason. It seems contrived and serves only to distract people from posts of real substance. Doing a mathematically pure random vote in the first couple of posts in the game because absolutely nothing has been said is much different than that.
They would have knowledge if they were in a group together. It's a flimsy pretense to be sure, but something I picked up on because nothing else of value had been said up to that point. Something is better than nothing.
This is a HUGE slip even more than the coju thing. Having had several games under my belt now as mafia, I can say that there have been many times when I would slip up while typing and say something like this when I meant to make it more general and "Townie-like." I had to studiously reread my posts before posting, and even then I felt like I said certain incriminating things that made me sweat. and you know the first thing I did? try to put the heat on someone else so my post slips into the background.
And look at that, Bad Ash's very next post is to hop on someone else's bandwagon, with no other evidence to back it up I might add.
Unvote: coju
Vote: Bad Ash
Caluin Graye
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Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
This is a game of mafia, which revolves around the WIFOM concept. People can and will call you scum for the smallest, most insignificant things. Every single tiny action or inaction will be scrutinized and thrown back against you. Get used to it.
In this particular case, I was prodding someone just to see what kind of reaction I would provoke. Think of it as a matter of the way you respond being more important than the actual answer.
As is it's a common scum tactic for scum to point out the common scum tactics of townies that are calling out the common scum tactics of scum.
Wait, what? Oh gods, my head hurts.
Both yes and no. I don't like that we've jumped to the conclusion of a cult without any real proof, especially when the lore states that the baddies are intentionally not recruiting and are instead killing their victims. Secondly, Flip's statement is presented with authority, as if he knows this to be fact already. Note how he says - "The KC can either". There's no 'I think' in that statement, anywhere. He then subtly suggests that we'd need to be more interested in hunting recruits than the original scum team, which leads town down a losing road.
That's what went through my head when I read Flip's post. It could have been a legitimate slip, or just a "mind to keyboard" translation error. So I decided I wanted to prod him a bit, to see what his reaction might be. It was... interesting, to say the least.
This is a game of mafia, which revolves around the WIFOM concept. People can and will call you scum for the smallest, most insignificant things. Every single tiny action or inaction will be scrutinized and thrown back against you. Get used to it.
In this particular case, I was prodding someone just to see what kind of reaction I would provoke. Think of it as a matter of the way you respond being more important than the actual answer.
As is it's a common scum tactic for scum to point out the common scum tactics of townies that are calling out the common scum tactics of scum.
Wait, what? Oh gods, my head hurts.
Both yes and no. I don't like that we've jumped to the conclusion of a cult without any real proof, especially when the lore states that the baddies are intentionally not recruiting and are instead killing their victims. Secondly, Flip's statement is presented with authority, as if he knows this to be fact already. Note how he says - "The KC can either". There's no 'I think' in that statement, anywhere. He then subtly suggests that we'd need to be more interested in hunting recruits than the original scum team, which leads town down a losing road.
That's what went through my head when I read Flip's post. It could have been a legitimate slip, or just a "mind to keyboard" translation error. So I decided I wanted to prod him a bit, to see what his reaction might be. It was... interesting, to say the least.
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
I like this comment. I don't understand how the analyzing of recruitment is on full heat when we've been quite clearly stated that the KFC-brothers (I forget what they were.
) are out to kill.
I like this comment. I don't understand how the analyzing of recruitment is on full heat when we've been quite clearly stated that the KFC-brothers (I forget what they were.
) are out to kill. Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
I am hesitant to buy into a cult scenario without going through a night phase. Multiple night kills, for example, I would find a compelling probably cause of a cult. With only fourteen players, I find the existence of a cult somewhat unlikely, as it would likely be in addition to a more traditional mafia style antitown group. A cult AND a mafia-style antitown group would be difficult to manage with such a small group, although I guess it could be done.
Having said that, I am in favor of a lynch today. I don't have real strong feelings yet on who should be targetted, though.
I am hesitant to buy into a cult scenario without going through a night phase. Multiple night kills, for example, I would find a compelling probably cause of a cult. With only fourteen players, I find the existence of a cult somewhat unlikely, as it would likely be in addition to a more traditional mafia style antitown group. A cult AND a mafia-style antitown group would be difficult to manage with such a small group, although I guess it could be done.
Having said that, I am in favor of a lynch today. I don't have real strong feelings yet on who should be targetted, though.
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
I'm of the opinion that all this talk of recruitment and cult and kill flavor is just a distraction. NO ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN YET. we can't possibly know anything about mafia powers until something happens, either story flavor or a kill. At least one person contributing to this debate is scum, and it's likely the person pushing false ideas without committing to anything.
I'm of the opinion that all this talk of recruitment and cult and kill flavor is just a distraction. NO ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN YET. we can't possibly know anything about mafia powers until something happens, either story flavor or a kill. At least one person contributing to this debate is scum, and it's likely the person pushing false ideas without committing to anything.
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
SHEESH.
It's not a slip up if I meant exactly what I said.
Do I want a townie killed? of course not!
Is there probably an over 75% chance of killing one today? YES.
Do I hate starting with a day phase? YES.
Does it increase the chance of a townie being lynched? YES.
Do we have even less to go off on than we usually do on the first day in a mafia game? YES.
Not sure it could be more black and white. My comment was a dig at starting on a day phase corresponding with the very high chance of us lynching a townie. For goodness sake. Why would I say that if I A. Meant it, and B. was anti-town? Someone answer me that.
and the "you could be trying to trick us" is not a good enough answer because that is not how I play and wouldn't on a day 1 of a game
SHEESH.
It's not a slip up if I meant exactly what I said.
Do I want a townie killed? of course not!
Is there probably an over 75% chance of killing one today? YES.
Do I hate starting with a day phase? YES.
Does it increase the chance of a townie being lynched? YES.
Do we have even less to go off on than we usually do on the first day in a mafia game? YES.
Not sure it could be more black and white. My comment was a dig at starting on a day phase corresponding with the very high chance of us lynching a townie. For goodness sake. Why would I say that if I A. Meant it, and B. was anti-town? Someone answer me that.
and the "you could be trying to trick us" is not a good enough answer because that is not how I play and wouldn't on a day 1 of a game
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
Coju seems far more suspicious than Bad Ash to me, and my propensity for trying to kill Bad Ash is well documented. Particularly his early posts, Coju seems trying to deliberately confuse us. If we lynch him, the best case scenario is that we kill a mafia, worst case scenario is we get rid of a townie who hasn't been adding anything constructive to the conversation.
Nothing personal, Coju, just found your "Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
I didn't want to say anything, but kestegs hasn't been at our monthly meetings lately... "
and "No. kestegs, I am quite disturbed by the blood on your vest. Forget to change? "
posts to be quite distracting.
Coju seems far more suspicious than Bad Ash to me, and my propensity for trying to kill Bad Ash is well documented. Particularly his early posts, Coju seems trying to deliberately confuse us. If we lynch him, the best case scenario is that we kill a mafia, worst case scenario is we get rid of a townie who hasn't been adding anything constructive to the conversation.
Nothing personal, Coju, just found your "Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
I didn't want to say anything, but kestegs hasn't been at our monthly meetings lately... "
and "No. kestegs, I am quite disturbed by the blood on your vest. Forget to change? "
posts to be quite distracting.
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
I tried watching the first chapter, but my eyes started bleeding. Also, naming a sanctuary "Special Zone" has to be one of the lamest things in the universe. Anyway, with fourteen players, I would assume that the ratio ought to be 3:4 (around 10 aligned with town or neutral and 4 opposing). So, onto my prime suspects, in descendant order...
Bad Ash: His post #28 was either a huge slip or a honest mistake. His defense was quite poor, too.
Coju: I think his initial statements (#6, #16, #18) were made to push for information, but who knows.
Kestegs: This particular post (#21, by Coju) revealed that he has something to hide, perhaps scum.
Flip: Rant (#26) was uncalled for and I don't get were it came from; maybe goon's remorse.
Vote: Bad Ash
So, for the time being, I think these of us are in the town team: Ankeli, Asrrin, Caluin, Goryani, and Me. Not sure what to think of the rest (Fred, Gwaihir, Noodle, Poldy and Thundercat).
Goryani's "No night abilities may be used during pregame. My tin-foil-hat-sense is thinking daytime abilities."
This is interesting. Considering it's a Vampire game, it makes sense Rlyeh might have made a twist to the usual.
I tried watching the first chapter, but my eyes started bleeding. Also, naming a sanctuary "Special Zone" has to be one of the lamest things in the universe. Anyway, with fourteen players, I would assume that the ratio ought to be 3:4 (around 10 aligned with town or neutral and 4 opposing). So, onto my prime suspects, in descendant order...
Bad Ash: His post #28 was either a huge slip or a honest mistake. His defense was quite poor, too.
Coju: I think his initial statements (#6, #16, #18) were made to push for information, but who knows.
Kestegs: This particular post (#21, by Coju) revealed that he has something to hide, perhaps scum.
Flip: Rant (#26) was uncalled for and I don't get were it came from; maybe goon's remorse.
Vote: Bad Ash
So, for the time being, I think these of us are in the town team: Ankeli, Asrrin, Caluin, Goryani, and Me. Not sure what to think of the rest (Fred, Gwaihir, Noodle, Poldy and Thundercat).
Goryani's "No night abilities may be used during pregame. My tin-foil-hat-sense is thinking daytime abilities."
This is interesting. Considering it's a Vampire game, it makes sense Rlyeh might have made a twist to the usual.
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
yawn. There are better options for lynches today than myself. As stated several times my post was not a slip up or a mistake, its a fact for a game that starts with a day phase, we are likely to lynch a townie.
What color is your blood asrrin?
yawn. There are better options for lynches today than myself. As stated several times my post was not a slip up or a mistake, its a fact for a game that starts with a day phase, we are likely to lynch a townie.
What color is your blood asrrin?
Flip10thMtn
New member
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
OK
My rant was ment as a general joke not a rant - if you re-read it hopefully you will see where I'm coming from.
Also
As I've said above I'm speculating - the only info I'm going off os is the Anime itself. If you watch it you will see what I mean. The original WAR (Hong Kong) the KC made an army by turning vampires and humans into KC "kids" (not killing them). In the "Safe Zone" the KC spread tainted blood to hospitals and the humans turned to KC. They then went on a rampage and killed indisriminantly. With no night actions it's all I have to go on but pure speculation. I certainly agree we will not have any clue what is going on until we have our first night.
Leo - Per above in this story (the Anime) the only way to turn a human is to have them drink vampire blood. The act of biting humans is just feeding.
OK
My rant was ment as a general joke not a rant - if you re-read it hopefully you will see where I'm coming from.
Also
As I've said above I'm speculating - the only info I'm going off os is the Anime itself. If you watch it you will see what I mean. The original WAR (Hong Kong) the KC made an army by turning vampires and humans into KC "kids" (not killing them). In the "Safe Zone" the KC spread tainted blood to hospitals and the humans turned to KC. They then went on a rampage and killed indisriminantly. With no night actions it's all I have to go on but pure speculation. I certainly agree we will not have any clue what is going on until we have our first night.
Leo - Per above in this story (the Anime) the only way to turn a human is to have them drink vampire blood. The act of biting humans is just feeding.
RlyehExiled
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Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
Vote count as of post #75
Zemaj/Thundercat (0): [Asrrin]
Coju (1): [Assrin], Fred
Bad Ash(3): Coju, Asrrin, Val
Asrrin (2): Ankeli, Bad Ash
Regarding end times: I decided that 1pm GMT is too early (espically as Im not forced to be here at 1pm every day), so Im going to extend day 1 by 6 hours and change the switch time to 7pm GMT.
Vote count as of post #75
Zemaj/Thundercat (0): [Asrrin]
Coju (1): [Assrin], Fred
Bad Ash(3): Coju, Asrrin, Val
Asrrin (2): Ankeli, Bad Ash
Regarding end times: I decided that 1pm GMT is too early (espically as Im not forced to be here at 1pm every day), so Im going to extend day 1 by 6 hours and change the switch time to 7pm GMT.
coju
Well-known member
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
I'll post my replies to that same question (Remember, these are all within the first 20-30 posts of a day started game......)
I never said you said want. I asked why we would want to... (And I did read your reply to that.)
I'm glad someone else picked up on this besides me.
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
Hmm, quite the helpful post there. I agree with most of it, although I don't think kegs was particularly scummy. Flip was a bit suspicious in his original reply to CG. He followed up with the useful reply below, so not sure if that is covering scum tracks or just helping town. Coju was definitely the most suspicious to me. On the other hand would a mafia come out screaming like he did? I don't particularly find Bad Ash suspicious for the first lynching townie comment, but I must admit I am curious why you would be asking about blood color. If the same question was asked of you Bad Ash, would you be willing to answer before Asrrin?
Anyways, coju you got some conversation going I guess, but not sure it was particularly useful. And getting the game started by throwing out baseless accusations doesn't seem very town.
We have extra time, thanks to RE, but for now:
Vote: coju
Hmm, quite the helpful post there. I agree with most of it, although I don't think kegs was particularly scummy. Flip was a bit suspicious in his original reply to CG. He followed up with the useful reply below, so not sure if that is covering scum tracks or just helping town. Coju was definitely the most suspicious to me. On the other hand would a mafia come out screaming like he did? I don't particularly find Bad Ash suspicious for the first lynching townie comment, but I must admit I am curious why you would be asking about blood color. If the same question was asked of you Bad Ash, would you be willing to answer before Asrrin?
Anyways, coju you got some conversation going I guess, but not sure it was particularly useful. And getting the game started by throwing out baseless accusations doesn't seem very town.
We have extra time, thanks to RE, but for now:
Vote: coju
Re: Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread
of course. But that would give asrrin an answer to the question. I know the color of my blood and it should be the same for everyone who is town
Unvote: asrrin
Vote: coju
He is more scummy to me right now than asrrin and I dont think I will be switching my vote at this point. Hammering home a worthless post to get a wagon going is just the start of it. If people get over the fact that is was a dig at day starting games, they'd be able to let it go, and realize that if I was mafia the last thing I would do is draw attention to myself in that way. It makes no sense as does the votes that followed.
coju and asrrin link is possible for sure.
of course. But that would give asrrin an answer to the question. I know the color of my blood and it should be the same for everyone who is town
Unvote: asrrin
Vote: coju
He is more scummy to me right now than asrrin and I dont think I will be switching my vote at this point. Hammering home a worthless post to get a wagon going is just the start of it. If people get over the fact that is was a dig at day starting games, they'd be able to let it go, and realize that if I was mafia the last thing I would do is draw attention to myself in that way. It makes no sense as does the votes that followed.
coju and asrrin link is possible for sure.
