Black Blood Brothers Mafia Thread

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The mafia knows I am pro-town. Now, assuming some believe TC, the town knows so as well. Nothing else is necessary at this point.

So, why would I not divulge my role? The name of the role alone is irrelevant; what is important is what I can or can't do.

Say I'm night kill immune - divulging this would hurt the town, as the mafia would be more likely to target someone else who would be vulnerable. Say I'm NOT nightkill immune - the mafia doesn't know this either, and the less information they have to work with the better.

Same thing for siring / recruiting. What if I am immune to being recruited? I wouldn't want the mafia to know this, as I would want them to waste a recruit / sire attempt. Given that immunity to siring has already been claimed, the mafia have to acknowledge its possibility. If I divulge my role and am vulnerable to siring, I would likely be the next in line to be recruited - why bother attempting to recruit someone who may be immune, when someone who claims not to be is available?

Withholding my role is also an effective ace in the hole - if someone claims to have my role, I will know they're lying, and hence mafia.

Divulging my role ultimately will only serve the interests of the bad guys. These are pretty basic tactics, really. Frankly, I find insisting that everyone give up their roles this early in the game to be a pretty lazy and not very effective way to play the game.
 
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going back to my stand by cause I dont know where to proceed.

Day 1

Spoiler
Zemaj/Thundercat (0): [Asrrin]
Coju (7): [Assrin], Fred, bad ash, Gwaihir, Noodle, Kestegs, Thundercat, [Asrrin], Asrrin
Bad Ash(2): Coju, [Asrrin], Val
Asrrin (1): Ankeli, [Bad Ash]
Fred (1): Goryani

Coju was lynched. Mimiko - Pro Town - Comprimsor


Night 1

Asrrin is killed

Day 2

Spoiler
Fred (1): Ankeli
Goryani (7): CG, Gwailhir, Kestegs, Thundercat, Noodle, Valhaurus, Valhaurus

Goryani has been locked.


6 to lynch, 7 to lock

Night 2

Nobody died

Day 3

Spoiler
Fred: Ankeli, Gwaihir, Caluingraye, Bad Ash, Kestegs, Thundercat (6)
Gwaihir: [Fred] (1)
ThunderCat: [Bad ash], [Kestegs], Val, Val (2)
Kestegs: [CaluinGraye], [Valhaours], [valhauros] (0)
Ankeli: Fred (1)

Fred lynched


ThunderCat and Ankeli and Gwahir. top 3 suspects.

So TC if you are a cop who is most suspicious of these 2 and why?

Investigating Noodle and Leo cause they were under the radar? Thats really not the best path for a cop to take in games where there is other information to be had by investigating people who have actually done something.
 
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Vote count for day 4: (As of #282)

No votes so far:

Day ends in 51 hours (due to the extra 24 given to make up for the half day of forum being skewy) or at lock. (Friday 1am GMT, Thursday 7PM CET)

Their are 8 alive, it takes 4 to lynch and 5 to lock
 
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Gwaihir
I'm with Noodle on role-claiming - I've stated I'm Sire Immune and stopped a train on Kestegs due to him also being sire-immune.
Giving up my name will only help the Mafia as far as I see it?

BA - Why did you jail Kestegs - what was the reasoning behing it?

Here's my take as of today:
Val - 2 votes - I assume town
Kegs - Sire immune - I assume town
TC - Claims Cop - I'll take that claim for now and assume town
ME - Sire Immune - Town
Gwa - Claims Vamp hunter and a botched kill attempt due to a bus driver role - not sold on this claim.
Ank - wild card, probably top of my list
BA - Claims Jailor - not sold on this claim either
Noodle - Town per TC, I'll assume town since I'm also thinking TC's claim is legit

SO my three too look at closer - Gwa, Ank and BA. (no particular order)
 
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So TC if you are a cop who is most suspicious of these 2 and why?

Investigating Noodle and Leo cause they were under the radar? Thats really not the best path for a cop to take in games where there is other information to be had by investigating people who have actually done something.

In hindsight, it's easy to judge one's actions. It's what I thought would be best and I acted on it.

Out of Ankeli and Gwaihir, if I were to choose one, I would choose Ankeli. Because I'm inclined to believe Gwaihir's claim at this point.


 
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Hmmm

Anyone understand what CG is trying to get at?
 
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I can't believe you lynched Fred above anyone else, despite of his way of playing. He and Caluin were the only ones I trusted as town members; right now, though, I'm relatively convinced by the claims of Gwaihir and Bad Ash. By the way, where are your claims, Ankeli and Flip?

Flip's "Anyone understand what CG is trying to get at?" and Gwaihir's "That leaves CG, who is still around today":
Caluin was killed the previous night phase. He probably forgot or something related to the forum's malfunction.

Noodle's "Withholding my role is also an effective ace in the hole":
This is BS. At this point of the game, the only way to pointing mafia is through lies. If ThunderCat is indeed a cop, then he could easily get a false positive on the Godfather, who, for all I know, it's you.

Vote: Noodle + Vote: Noodle
 
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@ Val: cg can still vote today but post nothing else (it says so on day 4 opening but easy to miss), its a power he had.
 
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Votes as of: #291

Flip (0): [Caliun Graye]
Noodle (2): Valhauros, Valhauros

4 to lynch, 5 to lock.
 
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Val

Are you actually reading? If you look 5 posts above your post (my post 284) you will see that I agree with Noodle and that me role-claiming isn't in the towns best interest?

You have now closed day 2 early by double voting to lock a lynch.
You missed that CG is a ghost.
You missed my explination why I'm not claiming just yet.
If it wasn't for you having two votes you would be at the top of my list as possible mafia.

My question about CG is me wondering why he would vote me then un-vote me within a few minutes. I thought perhaps since all he can do is vote he might be trying to say something but I wasn't picking up on it.
 
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For arguments sake lets pretend we believe all the role claims so far.

We know Gory was Kowloon.

That leaves Ankeli as Kowloon. - That's only two.
Is it possible that our botched Vig kill nabbed Laarz and he was Kowloon #3?

If this scenario is possible then who is the bus-driver that switched in Laarz on Gwaihir's attempt on TC?

Also - in a game this size would there be only 3 Mafia?

Knowing this story-line and the few main characters possible I think it would be a huge gamble to claim anyone unless the claiment had inside knowledge, such as the Kowloon getting thier victims character name and then claiming the dead's name. From what Gwaihir got for info this probably isn't the case.
 
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The mafia knows I am pro-town. Now, assuming some believe TC, the town knows so as well. Nothing else is necessary at this point.

So, why would I not divulge my role? The name of the role alone is irrelevant; what is important is what I can or can't do.

Say I'm night kill immune - divulging this would hurt the town, as the mafia would be more likely to target someone else who would be vulnerable. Say I'm NOT nightkill immune - the mafia doesn't know this either, and the less information they have to work with the better.

Same thing for siring / recruiting. What if I am immune to being recruited? I wouldn't want the mafia to know this, as I would want them to waste a recruit / sire attempt. Given that immunity to siring has already been claimed, the mafia have to acknowledge its possibility. If I divulge my role and am vulnerable to siring, I would likely be the next in line to be recruited - why bother attempting to recruit someone who may be immune, when someone who claims not to be is available?

Withholding my role is also an effective ace in the hole - if someone claims to have my role, I will know they're lying, and hence mafia.

Divulging my role ultimately will only serve the interests of the bad guys. These are pretty basic tactics, really. Frankly, I find insisting that everyone give up their roles this early in the game to be a pretty lazy and not very effective way to play the game.

Gwaihir
I'm with Noodle on role-claiming - I've stated I'm Sire Immune and stopped a train on Kestegs due to him also being sire-immune.
Giving up my name will only help the Mafia as far as I see it?

Noodle, I stated yesterday after Flip said he was sire immune that it was a bad idea for anyone else to say it. I can understand role claiming at your own discretion as you know what it is and I don't.

On the other hand I do not think that the name is unimportant. I would imagine it would be difficult to make up your own role claim and make it seem reasonable. And especially in this case, where there are relatively few characters in the series. I don't think the mafia can glean a ton of info from a name, but the town can evaluate the likely hood of you telling the truth.

So to address each individually: Of the three unclaimed, I believe you the most Noodle, as a proclaimed cop gave you a protown read. On the other hand, if you are a godfather, that means nothing. so you are in the likely town camp. Flip, you stood up for kegs, but there is one other way you could know about sire-immune people: You could be the person siring people. Just picked a good time to get a good cover story. So you are still in the iffy category. Ankeli is by far the most questionable as he has said nothing and spent all his time focused on the tracker.

In summary: there are a limited amount of names to claim, most of them have been taken already. We have the best chance of causing the mafia claiming problems today as they should not have any useful alibi's, whereas tomorrow they gain CG's as a safe claim and possibly one of the three people left if they do not give a name. So while it may be best to keep role details quite depending on your role, I think that getting names from everyone would really benefit the town.


 
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For arguments sake lets pretend we believe all the role claims so far.

We know Gory was Kowloon.

That leaves Ankeli as Kowloon. - That's only two.
Is it possible that our botched Vig kill nabbed Laarz and he was Kowloon #3?

If this scenario is possible then who is the bus-driver that switched in Laarz on Gwaihir's attempt on TC?

Also - in a game this size would there be only 3 Mafia?

Knowing this story-line and the few main characters possible I think it would be a huge gamble to claim anyone unless the claiment had inside knowledge, such as the Kowloon getting thier victims character name and then claiming the dead's name. From what Gwaihir got for info this probably isn't the case.

Well then the real question is how did Gory get an alibi? Wong was a gutsy call to just guess at. I still think it is likely that mafia get names even if I don't. As for Laarz being Kowloon, I really hope so. As for our bus-driver, either we have one among our 3 unclaimed or possibly CG's one shot ability. He stuck up for TC yesterday, may have tried to protect him last night from killing or recruitment.

Also, RE can we try to communicate with our ghost? Like asking questions and scripting responses (Ex: If your last one shot power was a bus driver, vote for yourself)


 
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I'm not sold on TC, so I'm going to go with my gut and vote for Noodle as he is refusing to reveal his role information.

Vote: Noodle

My role claim's here, sorry it didn't come earlier, I was asleep. -.-

I'm Crow, a black blood, pro-town vanilla with a twist that I'm not going to reveal as it will serve me no purpose if I do.
 
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before somebody jumps the gun - I will vouch for Noodle - he IS pro-town.
 
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Crow is about the only safe claim as he wasn't really in the series and I doubt is even in this game.
That nails it for me

Vote: Ankeli

If you believe I'm town so too believe Noodle is town.
 
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Crow is about the only safe claim as he wasn't really in the series and I doubt is even in this game.
That nails it for me

Vote: Ankeli

If you believe I'm town so too believe Noodle is town.

Since it's you and Noodle who downright refuse to claim, I don't really see your word weighing for much.



 
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