All Alone Tournament III

Just a quick question, rule #5 says no using the stash in town and I certainly have not been, but I got to wondering whether it would be in the theme of the tournament if you could use it at legitimate, mandatory town visits?

By mandatory I mean when you go to a new act, when you kill Fangskin, etc, but specifically NOT when you restart the game after save and exit?

I think this would be kinda cool, because you would still have to be very strategic with your usage of it, because once something is in there you can't touch it for a while, potentially past where you may need it (if you're not careful).

Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there as a point of discussion. ;)

There was a discussion about this after the first All Alone tourney, I believe, and it was decided against allowing the stash in town. I agree with you that it would require VERY careful planning to be effectively used (in fact, it might even hurt you if you put too many potions in and run out during battle). Perhaps it will change in another tourney, but as this one has already started, it's not fair to everyone already entered.


now the question, because this death is because of the lag (if there wasn't any lag I would have noticed I was getting shot at), do I have to start over again?
only lvl 8 so wouldn't be such a big prob. :)

Sorry, but you're going to have to start over. If I make exceptions (even when they would be justified) for one person, I'd have to make them for everyone. I don't know if this would have helped, but if you just push Esc (don't exit) but sometimes I can wait out the minute or so of lag and just alt+tab out and do something else until it passes, then resume my game.

Just a note, I'm working during most of the day, and around this time of day is the earliest I can get to a computer to answer questions, so if it's a very important question, sorry I can't get an answer to you sooner. Now that the questions are answered, RIP to you guys! Sorry to hear that so many are dying this early.

edit: just saw your question Silverslasher
Hoping for level 18 before andy so I can get shadow warrior to help. Shadow master is better to get for a trapper right? I keep forgetting their differences.
Suprisingly, shadow master isn't useful against andy. It dies so fast from poison, that I just wasted a bunch of mana summoning it then gave up and meleed andy to death. There are some differences between the two in how their resists and physical resist is determined, but the main difference is that shadow master can only use the two skills you currently have active, while shadow warrior can use any assassin skill (except a few like shadow warrior, etc.) I believe if you were to max them both, the shadow warrior would have more hp, but the shadow master would be stronger and tougher.



 
So are you saying I should max shadow warrior?

It's entirely up to you, if you search through the faq in the assassin forum it has a more detailed explanation between the two. I'm trying to wait for shadow master for my sin in this tourney and I think I'm gonna max master.



 
@skoolbus: No prob...my bad for not reading through the previous tourney threads, but play time is precious and I need to limit my forum time pretty carefully at work. ;)

About the Warrior/Master question, I'm not a trapper expert, but I thought Warrior was a pain because it only uses the skills you have selected for left and right click, meaning it keeps overriding your traps with its own less powerfull ones. I know the Master also overrides your traps from time to time, but less frequently.

Butz. :dunce:
 
@skoolbus: No prob...my bad for not reading through the previous tourney threads, but play time is precious and I need to limit my forum time pretty carefully at work. ;)

About the Warrior/Master question, I'm not a trapper expert, but I thought Warrior was a pain because it only uses the skills you have selected for left and right click, meaning it keeps overriding your traps with its own less powerfull ones. I know the Master also overrides your traps from time to time, but less frequently.

Butz. :dunce:

If I remember correctly, it wasn't in a tourney thread, but a feedback one, I wouldn't expect anyone to try and dig it up. You're right about the warrior overriding your traps, but it is possible for the warrior to lay higher level traps. I think the formula for the warrior's slvl is 1/2 SMaster slvl + 1/3 your slvl of the skill. So if you only had +10 to shadow disciplines and nothing to +traps they would have a higher trap level. Of course this probably would never happen and their placement of traps is horrible. I forget how the slvl of shadow master skills are, I'd guess it's just the SMaster slvl. I feel that the master is more useful in general, because often it will freeze enemies.



 
@skoolbus: No prob...my bad for not reading through the previous tourney threads, but play time is precious and I need to limit my forum time pretty carefully at work. ;)

About the Warrior/Master question, I'm not a trapper expert, but I thought Warrior was a pain because it only uses the skills you have selected for left and right click, meaning it keeps overriding your traps with its own less powerfull ones. I know the Master also overrides your traps from time to time, but less frequently.

Butz. :dunce:

I always thought the Warrior created it's own traps along side yours. Is this not the case?

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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      28  A3 Norm  Kurast Bazaar 
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana               Amazon      20  A2 Norm Far Oasis
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 18  A1 Norm  Jail lvl 1
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap Assassin         15  A1 Norm       black marsh
Credge          YinMKII          --          Necro       7  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp

[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22  A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1


 
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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      29  A4 Norm  The Pandemonium Fortress 
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana               Amazon      20  A2 Norm Far Oasis
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 18  A1 Norm  Jail lvl 1
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap Assassin         15  A1 Norm       black marsh
Credge          YinMKII          --          Necro       7  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp

[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22  A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1

Defeated Mephisto easily using the moat trick and decoy. Found some goodies when he died. =]

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**Edit

Quick question. Eventually we have to speak to Tyreal to progress to act 5. If we kill Izual, we will eventually gain the two skill points granted as an award. Is this legitimate?
 
Is it to late to enter? I wanna join in the fun.

Of course not! Join in!

Quick question. Eventually we have to speak to Tyreal to progress to act 5. If we kill Izual, we will eventually gain the two skill points granted as an award. Is this legitimate?

Yes, this is a legal explotation of the npcs. :grin:
edit: Those are some really nice items, just wondering, but where are all your potions? Your inventory is relatively empty.



 
Neat. Okay i'll post my char. I'm playing HC. I'm gonna take the tried and true fishymancer. I'm playing on players 8 at the moment.

Forum Name: Sindus
Character Name: Sindus
Build: Fishymancer
Level: 5
WP: Rogue Camp

edit:
I also have a question. Is it legal to clear the den of evil and then talk to akara once you've killed andy (and are allowed back in town again)?
 
@skoolbus

I just drained most of my pot supply against the council members and inside the Durance levels. Need to take it slow for a bit and build up again.

@Sindus
You may not ever talk to Akara, as she is not necessary to progress to the next act. The only skill quests you can complete are Radamant (he drops the book) and, through NPC exploitation (thanks skoolbus), Izual.
 
I also have a question. Is it legal to clear the den of evil and then talk to akara once you've killed andy (and are allowed back in town again)?

Talking to akara is not necessary for progressing through the game, thus you may not talk to her.

@whoisfu: I figured meph would have hurt you potion supply, I just killed dury and I used up about ten or so pots.



 
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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      29  A4 Norm  The Pandemonium Fortress 
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana              Amazon      20  A2 Norm  Far Oasis
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 18  A1 Norm  Jail lvl 1
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap        Assassin    15  A1 Norm  Black marsh
Credge          YinMKII          --         Necro        7  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Sindus          BobVonBobnBo    Fishy       Necro         8  A1 Norm  Cold Plains

[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22  A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1

Finaly reach the graveyard. A found a bow with an open socket and shoved an emerald in there. I'mhoping that'll keep blood raven occupied while my minions make work of her minions.
 
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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      29  A4 Norm  The Pandemonium Fortress 
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana              Amazon      20  A2 Norm  Far Oasis
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 18  A1 Norm  Jail lvl 1
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
zatlaren        SirSolo         Tesalin     Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap        Assassin    15  A1 Norm  Black marsh
Credge          YinMKII          --         Necro        7  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Sindus          BobVonBobnBo    Fishy       Necro         8  A1 Norm  Cold Plains

[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22  A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1

Not sure how much I will get to play but I started a paladin. Hes been through a lot of weapons so far. Oddly I found a rare throwing dagger with replenish quantity but it doesn't seem to be working as the number never goes up. Playing SC so that when I die I can go back and do all the quests.
 
I always thought the Warrior created it's own traps along side yours. Is this not the case?
Nope. I'm pretty close to certain that the 5 trap limit is for all your traps, including those of your minions, so if you've layed out 5 then they drop one, one of yours pops.

Of course, in this tournament perhaps that is super useful, because unless you pump energy, the lack of blue potions (or space to carry them), will mean you usually won't be able to drop 5 traps every time you want. Hmm, there's a thought. ;)

Butz. :dunce:



 
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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      29  A4 Norm  The Pandemonium Fortress
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi 
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana              Amazon      20  A2 Norm  Far Oasis
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap        Assassin    15  A1 Norm  Black marsh
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Credge          YinMKII          --         Necro        7  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Sindus          BobVonBobnBo    Fishy       Necro        8  A1 Norm  Cold Plains
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp


[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22  A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1

Did some work on the table to be sure it was in order (I think). Silent_Bob progressed to act 2 after a brutal fight vs. Andy. Used up almost all potions and all arrows for a bow, but eventually she fell. She dropped one worthwhile item (rare heavy boots) and a sapphire that I kept. Now that Silent_Bob is heading for act 2 I realize that he is going to have a nasty time with Duriel. No merc, and his main skill (poison nova) will not be available and there will be no bodies for poison explosion. Could be an interesting battle. Of course, he has to get there first!

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Phew. I'm insanely surprised that I made it this far with this guy. I was planning on going nothing but teeth, bone armor, bone spirit, bone spear, and bone wall... but then realized how insanely hard that would be, especially since we aren't looking at end game potential and toping out damage... we're looking at survivability.

So I decided to put some points into my curses and it makes a huge difference. My golem can tank this act 1 stuff (on /players 8) rather easily with minimal resummonings and I hit for enough damage that I can kill the blue Fallen Ones in one hit.

One thing I've noticed is that weapons that can be thrown are the best to get as their quantities don't go away in melee. And if they do, it's so slow that it's negligible. I had a chipped out short sword break on me rather quickly while these throwing knives have lasted me from 6 to 13.

Anyway, I had some really lucky drops early on. I found a yellow pair of boots that add some small resistances that repairs over time as well as a breastplate that does the same. I've found two Gem Shrines and got a nice Flawed Skull out of one of them. I'm thinking on making a breastplate to fight Andy with... something skulls in it so I can run around and regain hit points.

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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      29  A4 Norm  The Pandemonium Fortress
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi 
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana              Amazon      20  A2 Norm  Far Oasis
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap        Assassin    15  A1 Norm  Black marsh
Credge          YinMKII          --         Necro        13  A1 Norm  Dark Wood
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Sindus          BobVonBobnBo    Fishy       Necro        8  A1 Norm  Cold Plains
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp


[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22  A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1
 
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One thing I've noticed is that weapons that can be thrown are the best to get as their quantities don't go away in melee. And if they do, it's so slow that it's negligible. I had a chipped out short sword break on me rather quickly while these throwing knives have lasted me from 6 to 13.

I noticed the same thing. I found a nice rare javelin with cold and fire damage, so i've been meleeing alongside my minions. I found a wand with +1 bone armour which is proving handy for act 1.

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Finaly reached the underground passage. I had trouble with a unique skeletal archer. i hate cold enchated guys. The pwn my minions. I broke my nice javelin in the process of taking that skeleton down, so i switch over to a bardiche i just found. I added in a chipped ammey to help with my AR. I well placed combat shrine allowed me to carve up anything and everything in my path.
Hmm, i think i might go commando instead of fishy. I'll have to look at one of the guides.

Right now i'm busy healing up. I'm wearing a "sturdy quilted armour of self repair" as my main armour, but i have a chipped skull in another set of armour which i bust out when my health gets low. I'm hoping for a ring or amulet of regeneration though. My healing armour takes up too much damn space.

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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      29  A4 Norm  The Pandemonium Fortress
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi 
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana              Amazon      20  A2 Norm  Far Oasis
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap        Assassin    15  A1 Norm  Black marsh
Credge          YinMKII          --         Necro      13  A1 Norm  Dark Wood
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Sindus          BobVonBobnBob   Fishy       Necro        8  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp


[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22 A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1

You know i've been so happy to see ID scrolls before. I've got a bunch of stuff i need IDing, but a short supply of scrolls.


 
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[highlight]Alive Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP        [/U]
Chern           All_Alone       Summoner    Druid       33  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Chicago         WhereIsAkara    MA/??       Amazon      32  A4 Norm  River of Flame
Butzull         Warnie                      Druid       30  A4 Norm  Pandy Fortress
whoisfu         WhoIsZon                    Amazon      29  A4 Norm  The Pandemonium Fortress
stephan         Louise                      Assassin    23  A3 Norm  Kurast Docks
skoolbus        OneFingaPushup  Trapper     Assassin    26  A2 Norm  Canyon of the Magi 
Friiser         HCAll_Alone     Summoner    Necro       22  A2 Norm  Far Oasis 
OldSoldier      Princess_Diana              Amazon      20  A2 Norm  Far Oasis
WestXylophone   SoloFire        HolyFire    Paladin     22  A2 Norm  Halls of the Dead
Mursilis        Anubis          --          Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Sewers
Cygnus          Lycus           Hammers     Paladin     20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Crazy_Bear      Silent_Bob      Psn/Mage    Necromancer 20  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Tweety          Remi            Boner       Necromancer 19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
Brak            Tojolobal       Quesodin    Paladin     19  A2 Norm  Lut Gholein
San             Sigrdrifa       PsnJava/MA  Zon         19  A1 Norm  Inner Cloister
SinningThings   Rapunzel        Trapsin     Assassin    18  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ShockTactics    Frostshock      Frostadin   Paladin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
Jabash          RunAway         Blade/Shdw  Assasin     17  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
ZeN             DieAlone        Fishy       Necro       14  A1 Norm  Outer Cloister
SonOfBaal       NigelNoFriends  Fishy       Nercomancer 17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
GreyEagle       LoneEagle       Trapper     Assassin    17  A1 Norm  Tamoe Highlands
Silverslasher   Sizzlingpain    Trap        Assassin    15  A1 Norm  Black marsh
Credge          YinMKII          --         Necro       13  A1 Norm  Dark Wood
Feared          April_Ethereal  Summoner    Necro        ?  A1 Norm  Black Marsh
FromBeyond      HesHardcore                 Barbarian   11  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Quickdeath      Eve             Cold        Sorceress   10  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Zodwizard       HC_Rainwalker   Hunter      Druid        9  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Chizz           Trapper         ?           Assassin     6  A1 Norm  Stony Field
Anraxas         ibone_alone     bone        necro        5  A1 Norm  Stony field
Sindus          BobVonBobnBo    Fishy       Necro        8  A1 Norm  Cold Plains
Hoop76          Lonely_Guy                  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Vang            WirtsOldMan                 Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
tripsu          InsaneEnvy                  Amazon       1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
rY xD           Illidan         Berzerker   Barbarian    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
adny            Scorch          Hydrasorc   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Gabriel74       Smelly          Lightning   Sorceress    1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
The Cow King    Dogmeat         Conversion  Paladin      1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Retawd          Sinistral       --          Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Ron             Bamboozle       Trap        Assassin     1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp
Breaker         PerfectGame     Bowler      Druid        1  A1 Norm  Rogue Camp


[highlight]Dead Characters[/highlight]
[U]Forum Name      Character       Build       Class       LVL  ACT         WP       [/U]
EmperorMoo      BertieWooster   Summoner    Necromancer  25 A2 Norm  Duriel's chamber
Colorless Green Omega                       Assassin     21 A2 Norm  Halls/Dead2
EJB             WheresEveryone              Druid        22 A2 Norm  Radament
EmperorMoo      Wordsworth      Summon      Necromancer  11 A1 Norm  Tamoe Highland
chizz           Chizzy          Summoner    Necro        11 A1 Norm  Jail level 1
I played HolyFirer up to the Halls of the Dead and he is doing well! I put a point in Cleansing since I thought it would be needed with Andarial and I shifted down to players 5 for her. But that was pretty easy, I think I could have done it without Cleansing and at players 8 even. I found an Identify Tome in the first bookcase I tried, whew! I think a better name for my character would have been RedShoes since he's been a long time with wornout boots.
 
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