accounts closed over botting

quietus said:
As I mentioned before - The burden of proof is on YOU, not Blizzard. So please halt your ridiculous claims, until you can back them up.

Why should I stop my claims? I can type anything I like against them. I am pretty sure that they know what I am talking about. You can ignore my posts. I don’t have to prove anything to you.

I don’t expect anything to happen. So I am just typing my thoughts. We are not in a court room just to remind you. This is a chat forum.

Once I was taught: don’t listen what they say look what they do. I left my faculty amphitheatre 15 years ago.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Using a bot to play Diablo 2 is like paying someone to date your girlfriend.

I like the game. I've been playing it for years. I've never rushed anyone or been rushed by anyone...EVER!!! That's right, I play through every single act. Botting is not just against the license agreement, which everyone that plays the game has agreed to(!!!), it's just plain stupid. You botters are cheating yourselves out of a great playing experience (remember the girlfriend analogy at the beginning of this post?).

GG BLIZZARD!!!
WOOT!!! WOOT!!! WOOT!!!

P.S. Regarding the single player versus realm comments.
It's funny that way back when I started playing, single player was the "hacked" realm and closed realm was the "legit" place to play d2. Oh how things have changed!!!
 
Ok, why do people bot? It's because diablo II takes up a lot of time and they want to reduce their play time to enjoyable play time. In other words, they let a bot run overnight to magic find for them for like 8 to 10 hours. That would be an incredible waste of time doing that yourself. That way, when they do get online to play they aren't having to do "boring" stuff themselves. That is the explanation, and nothing more. Don't flame me for backing up botting or hackers or duping or destroying blizzard and turning the realms into a chaotic free for all. I am just trying to show why guys do it. If you agree with it or not is your business, don't make it mine. ;)

That being said, I don't care about hacks that much. I still think maphack is something blizzard should actually have encorporated into the game somehow. Maybe make a hard to get item give you some bonus called "seeing eye" or something that basically acts like a maphack. That would be pretty cool in my opinion. As for botting, I would prefer to see every duper out there abandon duping and switch to botting, wouldn't you? Items found botting are just as legit as items found by a person playing. They don't poof, they are not 'bad', they just were found by an automated program.

Duping is the only thing I have a problem with. On the one hand I guess I enjoy having my eth exile and my ebotdz which I would never be able to get if it weren't for dupers messing with the economy. On the other hand, I would gladly give them up to play in a dII where such items were indeed as "godly" as I think blizzard inteded them to be. I would much rather enjoy the fun of trying to find good rares or uniques to use than following the classic "cookiecutter" guidelines.

All that being said, I still enjoy diablo II for all it's worth. It has its problems, but you can still enjoy the game. Just play for fun, help people out, and avoid the darker aspects of the game. :P
 
Razur said:
Ok, why do people bot? It's because diablo II takes up a lot of time and they want to reduce their play time to enjoyable play time.
I have enjoyable playtime aswell, but my chars are not so gosu like botted traded chars.
Razur said:
That being said, I don't care about hacks that much. I still think maphack is something blizzard should actually have encorporated into the game somehow.
This feature exists already.. in singleplayer..thats the place where they belong.
Razur said:
Items found botting are just as legit as items found by a person playing. They don't poof, they are not 'bad', they just were found by an automated program.

Its always the same, people just seem not to understand the ladder system:A ladder should be a competition of equal players with the same starting positions, and no one, NO one has the right to cheat to save some time.If Ladder is to time consuming, people should play a different game.Of course i understand why people do cheat, to have an advantage..but a Hcl sorc with selffound medium gear earns the respect imho,not the gosu dueller wielding "last wish".
 
Razur said:
Ok, why do people bot? It's because diablo II takes up a lot of time and they want to reduce their play time to enjoyable play time. In other words, they let a bot run overnight to magic find for them for like 8 to 10 hours. That would be an incredible waste of time doing that yourself. That way, when they do get online to play they aren't having to do "boring" stuff themselves.

Err... Diablo takes up a lot of time? Boring stuff? It's not like mf'ing is a mandatory chore like taking out the garbage every night! Whatever happened to "life is about the journey, not the destination"? If at any point a player is trying to "reduce his time on Diablo to enjoyable time" then perhaps it would be better to consider other options; there's plenty of things one can do with free time. Watch a movie or something!

Consider this, you spend an enourmous amount of time and money in creating an application that is your pride and joy, and you get it patented/copyrighted, how would you feel when a scammer starts reverse engineering this application and turning it into a perverted version that does not resemble the original? I know I'd be pissed, to say the least.

I think Blizzard should look into incorporating some of the desireable features for the next release/patch, but not listen to greedy, lazy, bored, and/or unethical players/"merchants" that are really not getting the point of what the game was supposed to be. On a side note, I like the idea of the "seeing eyes" or whatever it was called :rolleyes:

Personally, even though I get so pissed off at the rarity of getting some items, I enjoy picking up items that I've worked my *** off for. The bot can go make me coffee.

Tech
 
I've been single player for a while, but my friends started up online and I played through act 1, giving them tips and ideas. The lag was insanely bad, we got kicked out of our games twice, and we had to wait 20 minutes to get a game created.

I just checked online - it has all changed.

As for Blizzard exploiting exploiters to get more money? Two things.
1) Good, tournabout is fair play.
2) Failing that, conspiracy!!1. (Yeah, no leet, but it is to make a specific point, right?...nah, I don't want to risk it. Imagine that conspiracy there to be written with a 0 instead of an o, a dollar sign instead of an s, a one instead of an i, and an at symbol instead of an A...type it yourself and then delete it - leet shall not see the light of day)
 
TechMonster said:
Err... Diablo takes up a lot of time? Boring stuff? It's not like mf'ing is a mandatory chore like taking out the garbage every night! Whatever happened to "life is about the journey, not the destination"? If at any point a player is trying to "reduce his time on Diablo to enjoyable time" then perhaps it would be better to consider other options; there's plenty of things one can do with free time. Watch a movie or something!

Consider this, you spend an enourmous amount of time and money in creating an application that is your pride and joy, and you get it patented/copyrighted, how would you feel when a scammer starts reverse engineering this application and turning it into a perverted version that does not resemble the original? I know I'd be pissed, to say the least.

I think Blizzard should look into incorporating some of the desireable features for the next release/patch, but not listen to greedy, lazy, bored, and/or unethical players/"merchants" that are really not getting the point of what the game was supposed to be. On a side note, I like the idea of the "seeing eyes" or whatever it was called :rolleyes:

Personally, even though I get so pissed off at the rarity of getting some items, I enjoy picking up items that I've worked my *** off for. The bot can go make me coffee.

Tech

...and this from a 3 post newcomer???

Welcome and well said kindred spirit!!!!!:thumbsup:
 
SirDooFuss said:
I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Using a bot to play Diablo 2 is like paying someone to date your girlfriend.

I like the game. I've been playing it for years. I've never rushed anyone or been rushed by anyone...EVER!!! That's right, I play through every single act. Botting is not just against the license agreement, which everyone that plays the game has agreed to(!!!), it's just plain stupid. You botters are cheating yourselves out of a great playing experience (remember the girlfriend analogy at the beginning of this post?).

You might like to do every single quest from a to z but I sure don't.
I've been playing the game years as well (quite actively, too) and don't find the quests interesting enough after a few hundred "experiences".

There are other things that interest me now, like ubers/crafting/gambling..etc

People use a bot to get themselves wealth, and easy experience for the botcharacter.
They might still play the game normally but bot when they are at work or sleeping.

I'm in no way defending "botters", just making a little ..argument. :laughing:
 
HardyTarget said:
People use a bot to get themselves wealth, and easy experience for the botcharacter.
They might still play the game normally but bot when they are at work or sleeping.

I'm in no way defending "botters", just making a little ..argument. :laughing:

I understand you're just making an argument, and I think I'll approach it in 2 directions.

1) Non Ladder: Anyone that's been "playing for years" that hasn't accumulated enough "wealth" to reasonably outfit their new characters or trade for items they might need must be letting their mules expire.

2) Ladder: The point of a ladder is everyone starts from scratch. Everyone has to WORK their way up from the bottom. If they're too lazy do the work, they don't belong on ladder.

I know I'm a bit unusual in that I still enjoy taking a brand new character through the Den of Evil, or the Flayer Jungle. But botting IS a violation of the license that all of us agreed to when we installed the game.

I stand by my original statement:

Using a bot to play Diablo 2 is like paying someone to date your girlfriend.:badteeth:
 
SirDooFuss said:
Using a bot to play Diablo 2 is like paying someone to date your girlfriend.:badteeth:

Not to defend botters, but a counterargument would be it's like paying someone to go shopping with your gf, listen to her boring stories about work, buy her gifts, do other things with her you don't like to do, and then do the things you like to do with her yourself.
 
deadmeatbh said:
no, I used only maphack and my account got closed. they were lucky ones. I'm not whining because i knew it was coming. I'm just lucky they didnt ban my cd-key. I'm just going to wait till the new ladder to come back.

Maphack sounds a bit like a hack... :rolleyes:

I hope they find a way to make D2 more hack-resistant on the next ladder.
 
Merick said:
Not to defend botters, but a counterargument would be it's like paying someone to go shopping with your gf, listen to her boring stories about work, buy her gifts, do other things with her you don't like to do, and then do the things you like to do with her yourself.

Nice try, but a woman is more likely to "do the things you like to do with her" with the guy that takes her shopping, listens to her, buys her the occasional gift, and other things she enjoys but you wouldn't even consider doing by yourself. I know. I've been married almost 16 years and I'm looking forward to the next 50 years!

Back to the game, though. Can you seriously compare the feeling you get when a high rune drops while you're questing to checking your inventory the next morning and finding a high rune? Besides, it's still a violation of the license agreement and anybody with half a brain knew that it could get them banned.
 
funny thread...really...i think i actually laughed outloud several times! i'm sure that no one in this thread has ever gained exp or items from a bot :wink3:

i'm sure that everyone here is as pure as the driven snow...:wink3:

matter of fact, i bet you would all give back your exp and items in a new york minute if you new that baal run that you joined at around #82 was a "bot" game...i mean i'm sure you always "waited until the tp is safe" :wink3:

no hyporcrisy here at all...lol

i admit i gained from joining bot games...duh!

in fact there would have been no need for the deletion of accounts if everyone just boycotted those bot games right?! we should all just play single player just to be safe. :lipsrsealed:
 
biggdaddyhoss said:
i'm sure that everyone here is as pure as the driven snow...:wink3:

matter of fact, i bet you would all give back your exp and items in a new york minute if you new that baal run that you joined at around #82 was a "bot" game...i mean i'm sure you always "waited until the tp is safe" :wink3:

no hyporcrisy here at all...lol
This may be true for SOFTCORE players...a bot in HCl-Baals survives... hmm lets say 10 seconds?I play HCl only and you have to search for people to even dare to run in public baals, ever heard of TPPK?
 
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