That's just priceless...
For the record anyone using a 3rd party program with DII or a modified version of the game is a [highlight]non-legit[/highlight] player as far as Battle.net and Blizzard are concerned.
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That's just priceless...
For the record anyone using a 3rd party program with DII or a modified version of the game is a [highlight]non-legit[/highlight] player as far as Battle.net and Blizzard are concerned.
korialstraz
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Re: account closed !?
You're correct, I was assuming most people run XP. I apolegize. But still anyone using any form of 3pp should be ready to deal with a ban. As Blizzard said, people using 3pp will get banned.
You're correct, I was assuming most people run XP. I apolegize. But still anyone using any form of 3pp should be ready to deal with a ban. As Blizzard said, people using 3pp will get banned.
Re: account closed !?
So a bunch of people got caught cheating and got punished for it. You got exactly what you deserved. There have been mass bannings by Blizzard before and all people do is cry more because they lost all the uber stuff they had.
Take this as an example, and don't cheat.
If someone pisses and moans that it's not fair and Blizzard needs to do something about it ...tough luck.
Please obey the rules of this forum, do not bypass the word filter and do not pimp the use of cheats and hacks and do not pimp other web sites that do, as is being done in this thread.
Consider yourselves warned..... there won't be another warning.
So a bunch of people got caught cheating and got punished for it. You got exactly what you deserved. There have been mass bannings by Blizzard before and all people do is cry more because they lost all the uber stuff they had.
Take this as an example, and don't cheat.
If someone pisses and moans that it's not fair and Blizzard needs to do something about it ...tough luck.
Please obey the rules of this forum, do not bypass the word filter and do not pimp the use of cheats and hacks and do not pimp other web sites that do, as is being done in this thread.
Consider yourselves warned..... there won't be another warning.
Re: account closed !?
im sorry but this is just retarded.
first of all could the uninformed please quit posting "haha if you get banned you deserve it" crap
second blizzard is being really retarded and is just now after years of the game being out banning accounts simply for having more then one copy of diablo running at the same time. even without D2loader which i dont use i got banned since blizz didnt implement an easy way for the players to store or transfer items without huge risk of losing items to temp bans or other things and players got fed up and said "theres got to be a better way for me to transfer my items to my other chars that need em or to trade/store my items in a game that is entirely based on its items and economy"
all i use is more then one full installs of the game and told the game not to detect instances so i can run more then one copy.
coincidently this super strict banning of accounts for something so trivial and something that the makers of the game should have implemented in the first place after years of them not caring or doing anything about it or even a giving out a warning just happens to be the day before their next big expansion comes out for a game that they can charge players on a monthly basis for instead of them losing money from people playing a free online game far longer then blizz thought the game would have run for and having to maintain the servers.
this is just way too bloody strict. i can understand no warnings and permanent bans for someone who is actually cheating, but all i was doing was playing the game legitimatly and not so much as a warning. how can i be punished when i didnt even know i was doing something wrong?
EDIT: and no gorny we didnt all get caught cheating. we got caught playing the game and 'oh no' transfering items. which is something EVERYONE DOES!
ok d2 loader ban makes sense. but I didnt use anything but the CD to install the bloody game. blizzard itself has admited to the mistake of not having an easy mailbox like system in D2 since they talked about giving the players a system like that for D3
quit acting so self righteous and try to show a lil sympathy.
im sorry but this is just retarded.
first of all could the uninformed please quit posting "haha if you get banned you deserve it" crap
second blizzard is being really retarded and is just now after years of the game being out banning accounts simply for having more then one copy of diablo running at the same time. even without D2loader which i dont use i got banned since blizz didnt implement an easy way for the players to store or transfer items without huge risk of losing items to temp bans or other things and players got fed up and said "theres got to be a better way for me to transfer my items to my other chars that need em or to trade/store my items in a game that is entirely based on its items and economy"
all i use is more then one full installs of the game and told the game not to detect instances so i can run more then one copy.
coincidently this super strict banning of accounts for something so trivial and something that the makers of the game should have implemented in the first place after years of them not caring or doing anything about it or even a giving out a warning just happens to be the day before their next big expansion comes out for a game that they can charge players on a monthly basis for instead of them losing money from people playing a free online game far longer then blizz thought the game would have run for and having to maintain the servers.
this is just way too bloody strict. i can understand no warnings and permanent bans for someone who is actually cheating, but all i was doing was playing the game legitimatly and not so much as a warning. how can i be punished when i didnt even know i was doing something wrong?
EDIT: and no gorny we didnt all get caught cheating. we got caught playing the game and 'oh no' transfering items. which is something EVERYONE DOES!
ok d2 loader ban makes sense. but I didnt use anything but the CD to install the bloody game. blizzard itself has admited to the mistake of not having an easy mailbox like system in D2 since they talked about giving the players a system like that for D3
quit acting so self righteous and try to show a lil sympathy.
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korialstraz
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Re: account closed !?
This is interesting. What you're saying is you didn't use any 3pp at all, or modified the .dll files and still got banned? I'm interested in seeing if I'm banned when I get home, since I've only ever played D2 using the CDs or by making use of the no cd patch released by Blizzard.
And no I won't show sympathy for people who don't desserve it. I can show some for those who used loaders because no other options was available, and that they never ever used anything else. As far as any other use of 3pp goes, I won't show sympathy. You knew the risk, you took it and now whine about being banned. Sorry to say it, but I won't show sympathy for that.
This is interesting. What you're saying is you didn't use any 3pp at all, or modified the .dll files and still got banned? I'm interested in seeing if I'm banned when I get home, since I've only ever played D2 using the CDs or by making use of the no cd patch released by Blizzard.
And no I won't show sympathy for people who don't desserve it. I can show some for those who used loaders because no other options was available, and that they never ever used anything else. As far as any other use of 3pp goes, I won't show sympathy. You knew the risk, you took it and now whine about being banned. Sorry to say it, but I won't show sympathy for that.
Belthazor
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Re: account closed !?
Well, there's a nice saying: Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
So basically you're saying that Blizzard shouldn't ban people for cheating, just because the game is old?
As was mentioned before, there's a way to have 2 instances of D2 running WITHOUT using a 3rd party program or changing some of the game files. And a version of Windows XP isn't that expensive, so that's no excuse either.
Well, there's a nice saying: Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
So basically you're saying that Blizzard shouldn't ban people for cheating, just because the game is old?
There you have it. You changed some of the game mechanics. Whether you think you have the right to do so or not, it's definitely against the Terms of Use, to which you agreed when you installed the game and registered on BNet.
As was mentioned before, there's a way to have 2 instances of D2 running WITHOUT using a 3rd party program or changing some of the game files. And a version of Windows XP isn't that expensive, so that's no excuse either.
minimobains
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Re: account closed !?
i don't care if people were using 3pp or what not they still played the game and loved the game and blizzard is actually ruining the game for them. Blizzard should've just gotten rid of all the damn baal bots. That would take care most of blizzards problems. The other stupid thing they should fix is kicking people off the realm for being quick mfers. I do pindle, ancient tunnels, and andy; and I get kicked off the realm after 5 games. So rediculous they're just going to lose players who want to play their games.
i don't care if people were using 3pp or what not they still played the game and loved the game and blizzard is actually ruining the game for them. Blizzard should've just gotten rid of all the damn baal bots. That would take care most of blizzards problems. The other stupid thing they should fix is kicking people off the realm for being quick mfers. I do pindle, ancient tunnels, and andy; and I get kicked off the realm after 5 games. So rediculous they're just going to lose players who want to play their games.
Re: account closed !?
I havnt checked my accounts fro a few days so cant say if any have been deleted or not. But I dont use any thierd party hacks including D2LOader, But I do run 2 copies on the one machine through the same internet port. I do this by using 2 accounts in WinXP. But I use two seperate cd keys, both purchased.
So as far as I am concerned I am legit. I bought 2 copies of D2LOD and expansion. How I connect to Bnet is surely my perogative.
So fingers crossed
As for anyone who has had their accounts deleted for using 3rd party hacks, well you gambled and lost. Those who only lost their mule accounts, I wonder if it could be because there were dupes on them?
I havnt checked my accounts fro a few days so cant say if any have been deleted or not. But I dont use any thierd party hacks including D2LOader, But I do run 2 copies on the one machine through the same internet port. I do this by using 2 accounts in WinXP. But I use two seperate cd keys, both purchased.
So as far as I am concerned I am legit. I bought 2 copies of D2LOD and expansion. How I connect to Bnet is surely my perogative.
So fingers crossed
As for anyone who has had their accounts deleted for using 3rd party hacks, well you gambled and lost. Those who only lost their mule accounts, I wonder if it could be because there were dupes on them?
korialstraz
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Re: account closed !?
So what you're saying is Blizzard should leave the cheaters alone to ruin the game for legit players who love the game just as much, if not more than the cheaters? Besides fixing baalbots isn't an end all problems solution for Blizzard. What about duping? Or all the hacks that ruin PvP?
So what you're saying is Blizzard should leave the cheaters alone to ruin the game for legit players who love the game just as much, if not more than the cheaters? Besides fixing baalbots isn't an end all problems solution for Blizzard. What about duping? Or all the hacks that ruin PvP?
purplejack
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Re: account closed !?
god cry more?
im saying one thing to the majority.. you got caught using 3pp progs.. you made the gamble when you decided to use them, the rules are clear, you use them - you get banned..
no sympathy here for ANYONE using hacks, progs, etc etc..
but for those that didnt actualy use any sort of programme blah blah.. sorry for your loss
STOP CRYING HAXX0R
god cry more?
im saying one thing to the majority.. you got caught using 3pp progs.. you made the gamble when you decided to use them, the rules are clear, you use them - you get banned..
no sympathy here for ANYONE using hacks, progs, etc etc..
but for those that didnt actualy use any sort of programme blah blah.. sorry for your loss
STOP CRYING HAXX0R
CanICallYouBob
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Re: account closed !?
Warden doesn't (or didn't?) scan any part of your hard drive including Diablo II directory. What it does (or did?) is it simply opens every process running on your computer, calls ReadProcessMemory, reads a series of addresses of executable programs and compares against a list of banning hashes. Warden doen't even scanning the title bar of every window on your computer anymore afaik.
The situation has been changed during the last years though. Warden nowadays hides from anyone looking at it exactly what it's doing and which files it's changing with a random code.
Anyway - Warden can detect D2Loader in ease because it's loaded into comp's memory as a process as well as patched D2gfx.dll (and any other modified .dll) because it's associated with a running D2Loader (or any other) process.
I don't like cheaters, D2 hackers, botters etc. But I don't like the changes to Warden either. The Electronic Frontier Foundation and many other groups have labeled Warden as spyware. :\
Oh, btw - my only acc and char weren't banned, I don't use any 3rd party software and hardly playing anymore. :smug:
e: Using D2Loader seems to be the main reason for current massive banning, despite of what some people claim.
Warden doesn't (or didn't?) scan any part of your hard drive including Diablo II directory. What it does (or did?) is it simply opens every process running on your computer, calls ReadProcessMemory, reads a series of addresses of executable programs and compares against a list of banning hashes. Warden doen't even scanning the title bar of every window on your computer anymore afaik.
The situation has been changed during the last years though. Warden nowadays hides from anyone looking at it exactly what it's doing and which files it's changing with a random code.
Anyway - Warden can detect D2Loader in ease because it's loaded into comp's memory as a process as well as patched D2gfx.dll (and any other modified .dll) because it's associated with a running D2Loader (or any other) process.
I don't like cheaters, D2 hackers, botters etc. But I don't like the changes to Warden either. The Electronic Frontier Foundation and many other groups have labeled Warden as spyware. :\
Oh, btw - my only acc and char weren't banned, I don't use any 3rd party software and hardly playing anymore. :smug:
e: Using D2Loader seems to be the main reason for current massive banning, despite of what some people claim.
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Re: account closed !?
Juicy you want cheese with your whine?
Yes it's retarded...the whining and crying of all those who got busted for using hacks and cheating. Cry more.
If what you said about getting caught just playing the game and getting banned for transferring was trus...then everyone on this forum would have been banned true because everyone transferrs items and mules. While Blizzard does not suggest nor did it intend for muleing, its a way of playing and you don't get banned for it. You may lose your stuff and Blizzard will not replace it.
About the Blizzard is retarded for just now banning accounts when the game has been around for years, that's a total falsehood, Blizzard has banned accounts and done mass bannings more than once in the past...people just don't learn or don't seem to care...they just cry more and keep cheating.
Your argument that you did not know that you were doing something wrong and shouldn't have been banned or how can I be banned if I did not know it was wrong also fails...it's all in the EULA and TOS...as pointed out by Zander. It's the same as the forum rules here...just becuse you don't bother to read them does not mean that you are exempt from those rules.
Epic fail on your argument.
Juicy you want cheese with your whine?
Yes it's retarded...the whining and crying of all those who got busted for using hacks and cheating. Cry more.
If what you said about getting caught just playing the game and getting banned for transferring was trus...then everyone on this forum would have been banned true because everyone transferrs items and mules. While Blizzard does not suggest nor did it intend for muleing, its a way of playing and you don't get banned for it. You may lose your stuff and Blizzard will not replace it.
About the Blizzard is retarded for just now banning accounts when the game has been around for years, that's a total falsehood, Blizzard has banned accounts and done mass bannings more than once in the past...people just don't learn or don't seem to care...they just cry more and keep cheating.
Your argument that you did not know that you were doing something wrong and shouldn't have been banned or how can I be banned if I did not know it was wrong also fails...it's all in the EULA and TOS...as pointed out by Zander. It's the same as the forum rules here...just becuse you don't bother to read them does not mean that you are exempt from those rules.
Epic fail on your argument.
Re: account closed !?
I'm one of those who lost my mule account (a trade mule), but I don't think there's any dupes in them. Specifically, the account contained 60 junk jewels + 12 perfect amethysts. I highly doubt any of those are dupes lol. The person I was trading with (Silverblade) is a trustable trader in this forum, so I don't think he did it either.
No clue on what happened. I did send a message to blizzard, but don't think I'll pursue it any further since it's only few puls worth.
I'm one of those who lost my mule account (a trade mule), but I don't think there's any dupes in them. Specifically, the account contained 60 junk jewels + 12 perfect amethysts. I highly doubt any of those are dupes lol. The person I was trading with (Silverblade) is a trustable trader in this forum, so I don't think he did it either.
No clue on what happened. I did send a message to blizzard, but don't think I'll pursue it any further since it's only few puls worth.
Re: account closed !?
This situation should be a clear indicator to Bliz that a transfer system is necessary for DIII. Regardless of how flaw the d2 system is, I don't know why there is a discussion. The banned used a 3pp which goes against the Terms of Use, its your own fault if you didn't read the rules first then played after. For those that were banned and are actually innocent (especially the mule traders), thank all the hackers for making Blizz so stringent.
However, I would have to disagree on using multiple CD keys as going against the rules. Obviously a household can have multiple people playing d2 at the same time, why should they get banned? But using a 3pp to run all your CD keys on 1 comp is understandably ban worthy. Blizz obviously does not have a way to tell the difference between multi user's within a household and ppl with the uploader. Instead of basking in legalities to further complications, making a rule out of multiple accounts is understandable in some way, but I don't think it's the best way.
This situation should be a clear indicator to Bliz that a transfer system is necessary for DIII. Regardless of how flaw the d2 system is, I don't know why there is a discussion. The banned used a 3pp which goes against the Terms of Use, its your own fault if you didn't read the rules first then played after. For those that were banned and are actually innocent (especially the mule traders), thank all the hackers for making Blizz so stringent.
However, I would have to disagree on using multiple CD keys as going against the rules. Obviously a household can have multiple people playing d2 at the same time, why should they get banned? But using a 3pp to run all your CD keys on 1 comp is understandably ban worthy. Blizz obviously does not have a way to tell the difference between multi user's within a household and ppl with the uploader. Instead of basking in legalities to further complications, making a rule out of multiple accounts is understandable in some way, but I don't think it's the best way.
blackrocksword1
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Re: account closed !?
If I wasn't mistaken, Blizzard initially had a system in mind for managing items in D2 with the Guild House idea or so. However, as time passes by, it was scrapped due to constraints, and we get a bigger stash size (in the expansion) as compensation instead.
And since when does using multiple CD-Keys constitute as breaking the rules?
I myself was, and am a multiple CD-Keys user (I have a sibling who plays this game with me), but we played through separate machines, and never got banned at any point. So far, the ones I've heard used a 3rd party program or some sort of modification to the game files, which is illegal. That said, I would be interested to hear experiences from people who use multiple CD-Keys legitimately and got banned.
If anything, like korialstraz said, there may be a cap as to how many CD-Keys may be logged on for the same IP address (4 or so it seems). But I only have 3 CD-Keys, so I cannot verify that.
If I wasn't mistaken, Blizzard initially had a system in mind for managing items in D2 with the Guild House idea or so. However, as time passes by, it was scrapped due to constraints, and we get a bigger stash size (in the expansion) as compensation instead.
And since when does using multiple CD-Keys constitute as breaking the rules?
I myself was, and am a multiple CD-Keys user (I have a sibling who plays this game with me), but we played through separate machines, and never got banned at any point. So far, the ones I've heard used a 3rd party program or some sort of modification to the game files, which is illegal. That said, I would be interested to hear experiences from people who use multiple CD-Keys legitimately and got banned.
If anything, like korialstraz said, there may be a cap as to how many CD-Keys may be logged on for the same IP address (4 or so it seems). But I only have 3 CD-Keys, so I cannot verify that.
Re: account closed !?
I wouldn't worry about it, even though my explanation might not be waterproof in a courtroom - I'm no lawyer
I meant different copies of the game with different game keys. They elaborated about its meaning in the second part of the paragraph. Also, if I'm not allowed to do that, I wouldn't have bought a second copy of the game and the expansion which had more or less halved the money they received from me.
I wouldn't worry about it, even though my explanation might not be waterproof in a courtroom - I'm no lawyer
Re: account closed !?
So you got banned for running more than 1 copy WITHOUT d2loader? Then I must be screwed too? I'll check when I get home.
Seriously, if they ban for running more than 1 copy on the same IP even without d2loader ... screw blizzard then. Drop mule your GG items in a mule game and then hoping you don't get connection restricted, game crash or cd-key in use bug if battle.net thinks your still in that server which you aren't. Lost too many items that way ... hence why I got a 2nd cd-key.
So you got banned for running more than 1 copy WITHOUT d2loader? Then I must be screwed too? I'll check when I get home.
Seriously, if they ban for running more than 1 copy on the same IP even without d2loader ... screw blizzard then. Drop mule your GG items in a mule game and then hoping you don't get connection restricted, game crash or cd-key in use bug if battle.net thinks your still in that server which you aren't. Lost too many items that way ... hence why I got a 2nd cd-key.
Re: account closed !?
For those who are interested in the reply from Blizzard:
(and since my one and only cd key wasn't banned, nor are my important accounts, i didn't bother to reply)
> Hello ,
>
> Thank you for contacting Blizzard Entainment.
>
> This Diablo II account was detected using a third-party program (hack) on Battle.net. We're sorry but the account is now permanently banned.
>
> Any third-party program that is designed to affect the way the user interacts with Battle.net is considered a hack program. This includes seemingly harmless third-party utilities that work with the game to provide functions that were not included by the game designers. While many of these utilities might not have been created to disrupt the balance of the game, they alter the original design of the program.
>
> Until the account expires; you will receive a message that the account has been closed. Once the account expires, it will be possible for anyone to create a new account with the same name. We cannot delete or expire the account manually. We will not be able to retrieve any characters, items, or account information (including Friends List).
>
> If you are receiving the error message, "Your CD-Key is disabled." when trying to join or create a realm game, this indicates the CD-Key installed has been temporarily or permanently banned from playing on Battle.net. First time offenders are banned from Battle.net play for one month and repeat offenders are banned from realm play permanently. Users who are unsure if their CD-Key was temporarily or permanently banned will have to wait one month from the time the CD-Key was banned to determine the status. If the CD-Key is still disabled after a month the ban will be permanent.
>
> We regret having to employ such extreme measures; however, certain activities (as detailed in the Battle.net Terms of Use Agreement and/or End User License Agreement of the game) have impaired the game play experience of the community as a whole and a severe response continues to be warranted. We will continue to monitor Battle.net for players who choose not to behave in a manner that promotes a positive gaming experience for others.
>
> We will not be able to supply any additional information beyond what is indicated in this email.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Online Support
> Blizzard Entertainment
> hxxp://www.Blizzard.com
>
> If you reply to this email, please include all previous messages and files related to this issue.
For those who are interested in the reply from Blizzard:
(and since my one and only cd key wasn't banned, nor are my important accounts, i didn't bother to reply)
> Hello ,
>
> Thank you for contacting Blizzard Entainment.
>
> This Diablo II account was detected using a third-party program (hack) on Battle.net. We're sorry but the account is now permanently banned.
>
> Any third-party program that is designed to affect the way the user interacts with Battle.net is considered a hack program. This includes seemingly harmless third-party utilities that work with the game to provide functions that were not included by the game designers. While many of these utilities might not have been created to disrupt the balance of the game, they alter the original design of the program.
>
> Until the account expires; you will receive a message that the account has been closed. Once the account expires, it will be possible for anyone to create a new account with the same name. We cannot delete or expire the account manually. We will not be able to retrieve any characters, items, or account information (including Friends List).
>
> If you are receiving the error message, "Your CD-Key is disabled." when trying to join or create a realm game, this indicates the CD-Key installed has been temporarily or permanently banned from playing on Battle.net. First time offenders are banned from Battle.net play for one month and repeat offenders are banned from realm play permanently. Users who are unsure if their CD-Key was temporarily or permanently banned will have to wait one month from the time the CD-Key was banned to determine the status. If the CD-Key is still disabled after a month the ban will be permanent.
>
> We regret having to employ such extreme measures; however, certain activities (as detailed in the Battle.net Terms of Use Agreement and/or End User License Agreement of the game) have impaired the game play experience of the community as a whole and a severe response continues to be warranted. We will continue to monitor Battle.net for players who choose not to behave in a manner that promotes a positive gaming experience for others.
>
> We will not be able to supply any additional information beyond what is indicated in this email.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Online Support
> Blizzard Entertainment
> hxxp://www.Blizzard.com
>
> If you reply to this email, please include all previous messages and files related to this issue.
MakeLoveNotDupe
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Re: account closed !?
Hi! Last Saturday
I was on my little brother's old laptop
Windows 2000 ( Version no idea ^^; ) +
VMware Player [A virtual machine software ( Version no idea ^^; )]
I transferred my items... All of my + his accounts did not close...
With a one connection
Computers / Virtual Machines / Fast User Switch
I believe are safe methods for rushing, transferring & etc...
Hi! Last Saturday
I was on my little brother's old laptop
Windows 2000 ( Version no idea ^^; ) +
VMware Player [A virtual machine software ( Version no idea ^^; )]
I transferred my items... All of my + his accounts did not close...
With a one connection
Computers / Virtual Machines / Fast User Switch
I believe are safe methods for rushing, transferring & etc...
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