About MH/chicken/etc being harmless...

tooie1 said:
I get more comments about that avatar....


who is that? if its not your woman change it to something more airbrushed please. i like my internet girls looking lively and fake

thx in advance :cool:
 
That's not always good enough when everyone tries to build for 1-2 hit kills.
There's a lot of SC PvP builds that aren't played because although they could win lots of duels, they couldn't get the ears.

<Unless you're refering to people in general, including PvM, in which case, good luck leaving at half life when 3 dolls pop on you at once, or an extra strong, extra fast, fanat frenzytaur catches you after being amped by an OK, etc etc -.->
 
MoUsE_WiZ said:
That's not always good enough when everyone tries to build for 1-2 hit kills.
There's a lot of SC PvP builds that aren't played because although they could win lots of duels, they couldn't get the ears.
So it's all chargers/hammerdins/blizz sorcs?
 
More like 10k+ dmg barbs and CS zons from what I can tell at high levels, but I don't really do much dooling so I couldn't tell exactly.
 
MoUsE_WiZ said:
More like 10k+ dmg barbs and CS zons from what I can tell at high levels, but I don't really do much dooling so I couldn't tell exactly.
If I were playing hardcore I'd have Tgods/Raven/Dwarf on, +max block and dr ^_^

Once I could afford that at least.

10k zerk? 10k is very very hard to get WW.
 
MoUsE_WiZ said:
Sorry, but where did I compare MH to theft of physical property?
Was it where I said "MH is exactly like stealing 5$, and botting is exactly like stealing 100$"?
Comparing theft is theft to hacking is hacking is different than comparing theft to hacking.

The question is quite simple - is someone who steals 5$ a thief just like someone who steals 100$?

Because IF that person is a thief, despite only stealing 1/20th of the amount the second person stole, I see no reason for an MHer to be any different from a botter, despite only earning 1/20th more illegit itesm.

Please explain, you said it makes you cringe to see botting compared to MH, but you have yet to provide one reason why it the two are different in any meaningful way.

You really don't see when you are being baited, do you?

Here's some questions for you. Is receiving stolen goods a crime? Does it make you the same as the thief? What about knowingly benefiting by someone else comitting a crime? Is someone who gets an extra dollar back in change and doesn't return it just as evil as someone who purposely steals millions of dollars from crippled orphans? Why is the sky blue? Why does it hurt when I pee?

Much like internet discussions on abortion, religion or politics, this thread is just so much intellectual masturbation and I'm groggy now that I've just spent my load and need to nap, maybe after I eat a cookie.
 
Here's some questions for you. Is receiving stolen goods a crime?
Yes.

Does it make you the same as the thief?
Yes.

What about knowingly benefiting by someone else comitting a crime?
Depends what you mean by knowingly, if you mean some random person murders my rich uncle that I don't like and I inherit millions as a result, no.

If you mean I know the fellow is going to do it, and I do nothing to stop it because I know I will benefit, then I'd assume it's a crime, but if it's not it's still very wrong.

Is someone who gets an extra dollar back in change and doesn't return it just as evil as someone who purposely steals millions of dollars from crippled orphans?
Yes.

Why is the sky blue?
It's not. Being awake during the day is for suckers. Every time I look at it, it's black.

Why does it hurt when I pee?
Because you won't answer the question, outside of magnitude of the effect on the economy, how is botting different than MH?
 
i only read about half this thread, but i gotta say i have completely differrent views than pretty much everyone here. what does it matter if someone cheats? that's good for them. if they want to think they're "uber godly" because they chicken, tppk, bot etc, let em. but when you get your legit character up to 99, you can rub it in their face about your experience and skill.

what other people do(aside from tppk) doesn't really affect you. if you're in a ball run and someone's MHing to find the minions, join another game, or join an a1 game and run ball yourself.

the only hack that i dont like is tppking, simply because of the cheap shots it takes. it's no skill for a kill, where as a legit dueler takes time, effort, and skill to take an ear

and to everyone bitching about hacks, play private games. yeah, it sucks. exp sucks, noone there sucks, but you get what you want. a nice, clean, legit game.







and no, for the records, i dont hack.
 
incomplete said:
i only read about half this thread, but i gotta say i have completely differrent views than pretty much everyone here. what does it matter if someone cheats? that's good for them. if they want to think they're "uber godly" because they chicken, tppk, bot etc, let em. but when you get your legit character up to 99, you can rub it in their face about your experience and skill.

what other people do(aside from tppk) doesn't really affect you. if you're in a ball run and someone's MHing to find the minions, join another game, or join an a1 game and run ball yourself.

the only hack that i dont like is tppking, simply because of the cheap shots it takes. it's no skill for a kill, where as a legit dueler takes time, effort, and skill to take an ear

and to everyone bitching about hacks, play private games. yeah, it sucks. exp sucks, noone there sucks, but you get what you want. a nice, clean, legit game.







and no, for the records, i dont hack.



Exactly, I totally agree. Hacking is in every game. It is what you decide to do is what really matters. If you want to use mh and chix go right ahead. No one is gonna convince me to use it though. If you get knocked by one of the tppkers, oh well, cry me a river. Build a better character next time or be more cautious at what you do. MH = I need a crutch, Boting = I am a lazy ebay seller, Chix = Hardcore wanna be, tppk = back stabber. All in all it is an enhancement outside of the realm in how the game was suppose to be played. What makes one hack legal and the other not? $5 comparison!!! If blizzard wanted those enhancements then I think they would of added them but what do I know, I am just a regular player.
 
incomplete said:
the only hack that i dont like is tppking,
So you don't mind playing with folks who use Pickit and get all the drops? And you never minded playing with the folks who would drop hack/PK you?
 
tooie1 said:
maybe after I eat a cookie.

You have profaned the staple food of my primary religion.

HERETIC!!!

BUUUURN THE WITCH!!!!!!

*chases tooie with a giant flaming s'more on a stick*

oh ... my view on this topic is that I don't cheat therefore it is bad and you must all follow my non cheting example because I compell you to do so through jedi-like mind tricks (not to infringe on the lucas copywrite)
 
cyradis2003 said:
oh ... my view on this topic is that I don't cheat therefore it is bad and you must all follow my non cheting example because I compell you to do so through jedi-like mind tricks (not to infringe on the lucas copywrite)
Or Silent Bob for that matter...
 
cyradis2003 said:
You have profaned the staple food of my primary religion.

HERETIC!!!

BUUUURN THE WITCH!!!!!!

*chases tooie with a giant flaming s'more on a stick*

oh ... my view on this topic is that I don't cheat therefore it is bad and you must all follow my non cheting example because I compell you to do so through jedi-like mind tricks (not to infringe on the lucas copywrite)

"Feel the COOKIES flowing around you young warrior."
~Cookie Wan Kenobi

"Eat COOKIES, you must. So that fall into the darkness you must not"
~Yo-Cookie-da

"Luke, I am your COOKIE!!"
~Darth Cookie

"[whine] But, I don't wanna tend the COOKIE precipitatorimizers[/whine]"
~Luke Cookiewalker

"Don't get COOKIE, kid"
~Cookie Solo

"COOOOKIEEEEEEEEEAAAAAARGHGHGHG!!!!"
~Cookiebacca

OR... There's always the Exorcist:

"The power of COOKIE compells you, The power of COOKIE compells you!"
~ Father Cookie McBaked :cheesy:
 
tooie1 said:
When people compare MH to theft of physical property, it makes baby jesus cry.

Well then spank that little whiner again, let him rip! MH is, was and will remain the hack that ruined D2. Bots, chickens, and grabits are just the icing on the cake. When MH came out, that gave every fool and moron the option of not facing any hard monsters, searches for levels, or needs for shrines ever again. Even if it weren't for chicken, this would still ruin hardcore more than softcore, since stumbling on that group of fanat,ES/FE archers/gloams is what hardcore is about.

Compared to theft of physical property? You bet. I want my 40$ back.
 
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