23 Runeword Search Thread

First the good news : collected some runes and will resume testing soon.

Bad news : it's kind of a story. I gave away most of my stashed items, stripped all chars but a Fanazealot, as it's the only one I'm still having fun with. With this Paladin, I played WSK nm and died by IM. While attempting to save my corpse, I died again, and again. And to put a crown on top I was disconnected from b.net during on of these attempts.

Well, here's my loss list :
- some minor stuff (Goreriders, Laying of Hands, String of Ears, Lidless on 2nd Slot)
- some less minor stuff (Highlords, good rare Leecher, perfect Ravenfrost, eth. Hone Sundan with 37 ED and 29 ED/11 Max)
- some really painfull stuff (my first and only CtA)

Just felt like sharing my frustration. :hanky:
 
talas said:
I just did 2 countess runs, one hell and the other normal. Both times the Countess dropped ZERO runes! No one else was in my game, and I always thought she dropped at least one rune. :(
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it's possible for this to happen it's just very,very unlikely. also be wary of when u kill her in doorways or when she is in other rooms. Some times when u hit alt u cant see all the items but only some of em so u think that she didnt drop any.
If u think thos are some low odds take a gander at this. The only 2 shakos that i have ever found were in 2 games in a row. Also both happen to be eth :( any given item has a 5% chance of being eth. so if u have it as a given that I find two shakos in a row, the odds that they are both eth is 25/10000. Now those are some low chances.
 
I finally finished compiling the grid for all the acronyms which can be "spelled" using 11 of the lowest 15 runes (El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Tal, Ral, Thul, Amn, Dol, and Hel), with no rune being used twice.

(Download wathombe's new and improved runeword spreadsheet.)

There are 1,380 possible recipes, socketable in anywhere from 7 to 16 item types, depending on the length of the word. So that's somewhere between 10,000 and 22,000 new recipes to test.

I would encourage all of you to scan the list to see if any words jump out as possible recipes for the 1.07 runewords (e.g., "teeth" might be good for Hunger or Bone). Please post any suggestions here (as will I), and I will add them to the notes column.

So let's get crackin'. ;)

I'll get to work on compiling Warcraft clues, too, but it probably won't be until next week.
 
Dawns_requiem said:
If u think thos are some low odds take a gander at this. The only 2 shakos that i have ever found were in 2 games in a row. Also both happen to be eth :( any given item has a 5% chance of being eth. so if u have it as a given that I find two shakos in a row, the odds that they are both eth is 25/10000. Now those are some low chances.
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That is some odds-busting. My story is similar, only I've found 2 eth WTs (49% and 40%), although not consecutively. Be happy, at least ya get to put urs on a merc! Mine lasted for about 5 mf runs each b4 they went bust.
 
More testing:
Armor: Ith-Dol = gemmed
Club: Tal-Nef = gemmed
Staff: Eld-Eth = gemmed

*sigh
Pally shield: Dol-Eld-Amn-Ral = gemmed

edit to add more:
Mace: El-Eld = gemmed
Wand: Ort-Ith = gemmed
Spear: Tal-Ith-Thul = gemmed
Hammer: Thul-Eld-Tir-Eth = gemmed
*big sigh
 
manuelm: what realm are you on?? I might be able to fanagle some spare items for your char. from fellow clan members of mine on USWest.

diabolic apom: Kings Grace, if memory serves me (old age being what it is becoming) is usable in a Scepter and Sword. I believe that the recipe is Eth Ral Ort Tal. I haven't even looked at that list yet. Maybe I should.

wathombe and other acronym people: English wasn't my best subject Way back in the days that I attended school. I would like a crash course, if possible, or direct me to page numbers if it was already discussed. Obviously, my studies were elsewhere other than on acronyms, but I want to help, so understanding is the first step. :clap:

That's all I got for now. I am off to rune-hunt.

Cheers!!!!
 
wow i sure missed a lot of things in a week. just read up to date. hey wathombe, by any chance is there any way to make random 3 socket testing into a table like the 2 socket testing? i was thinking, first two runes on the left side, and final rune on the right. would that work somehow? as in 2 times more on the left row. ie,(going right) AmnRal Ral, AmnRal, Ort, AmnRal Thul, (E), and going down AmnRal Ral, AmnOrt Ral, AmnThul Ral, etc. but then againm, it might be too much :-(
well my friend was playing my sorc and died. so i'm gonna be workin on comin back up over the weekend so i won't be able to contribute much this week
 
916_Andy: The good news is that with the Excel program, rows and columns can go for infinity. The bad news is, it would take Wathombe a deal of time to set up and maintain. *looks to see if Wathombe rips open front of shirt to reveal a Super Wathombe tatoo on his chest*

916 area code, eh? Where 'bouts in the ol' 916 do you live, if I may be so bold to ask your the question?\

I am holed up in W. Sac-o-tomatoes. :yep: :worship: :sleep:
 
Pandorapuss said:
diabolic apom: Kings Grace, if memory serves me (old age being what it is becoming) is usable in a Scepter and Sword. I believe that the recipe is Eth Ral Ort Tal. I haven't even looked at that list yet. Maybe I should.
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Yeah, you're right, it's made for scepters and swords. I'm absolutely certain it is AmnRalThul though. As for EthRalOrtTal, it is Holy Thunder (scepters only, and probably the best weapon to use with a Holy Shock paladin before you can get a Crescent Moon).


Wathombe :

I cross-checked the acronyms list and the 3 socket one, only to see you had already noted the only word present in both :D
Also, I couldn't find TIN (TirIthNef, tested in armor) and TIE (TirIthEth, tested in mace), is that normal ?


Andy :

Things would get really messy I think. The only serious way to do this would be a threee-dimension table (ie, a cube), so it's far from easy. Also, the method can not be extended to four runes or more (our universe being only three-dimensional).
 
nah, it's doable in a 2d table, it'd just be horrendously tall, 33x33 squares.

I don't mean to throw a blanket on things, but you have to realise that you're grasping with the acronyms. Sure, there probably are a couple, but the odds of actually finding them are greater than ludicrous, especially when you're ignoring half the runes.

I can't suggest a better way, although I'm pretty sure there must be a method to creating runewords - ie: this combination of runes produces these stats because of factor [X] - finding X is the problem I guess.

Also, someone said there were a couple of runewords [Myth?] that seem to be active, and have had their recipes changed. Surely working on those would be more fruitful than a random stab in the dark. Could be wrong about the whole thing, but if this is the case, then this seems like a MUCH easier angle of attack.
 
yeah everything would get messy and too much work.. ahh well. anyways, i made a new char yesterday and played for an hour or so and i'm up to lvl 30 for now. i'll try to get back up as soon as possible to do more runs for runes. pr items to trade for runes. but i've been very busy with a lot of stuff so i'll be back tonight. hopefully i'll be lvl 70 by tonight

Pandorapuss: south sac for me. currently a high school student at C.K. McClatchy :thumbsup:
 
916_Andy said:
wow i sure missed a lot of things in a week. just read up to date. hey wathombe, by any chance is there any way to make random 3 socket testing into a table like the 2 socket testing?
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Just to put in my 2 cents, the most practical way I can think of to test 3 socket items using the system we have in place now would to have a seperate spreadsheet (or perhaps one spreadsheet per item class) and for each item class you would need a table for each rune from about el to how ever far up you would want to go (io might be a good start). So you would need that many tables (# tables = however many runes there are from el to io).

Each table would not need to go to zod (instead to io).

Each table would assume that for that particular item the first rune is the rune associated with that table. I don't care whether this idea of my gets implemented or not but I thought I'd share the idea in case there was enough interest (since I have been giving the idea some thought).

edit: if there is alot of interest and wathombe doesn't want to make the spreadsheets to implement the idea I can create the .xmls myself (I have office)
 
well you can add erage987 im east softcre ladder and i have a lvl 76 wanna-be avenger pally and i just started doing some nm countess runs for runes.....so far the highest rune i got is hel:(
 
Not sure if this was said (46 pages...), but maybe you can add:
Shael Hel Amn Pul Eth (Shape)? I don't have any realm or ladder characters, so I can't really help out, sorry. :(

Edit: It's weapon-only, of course, since no armor/helm/shield can have 5 sockets.
 
I owe lots of responses, which I'll get to either later or in the morning. For now, though, a few quick tests:

EldEth - large axe
DolEl - large shield
OrtEl - small shield
OrtEld - large shield
EldTir - kite shield

Gemmed.

Waiting to meet someone online for a large donation of runes for testing... Later.
 
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