23 Runeword Search Thread
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hmm...
what about O.R.M.U.S.
ohm (ort), ral, mal, um, sur (sol, shael, whatever)
TYRAEL is also 6 letters but there aint no Y
AKARA would work
CHARSI
GHEED
FARA
LARZUK (someone better try that)
MALAH
i forgot the rest and i didnt read some of the pages prior to this one so why do you especially suspect HRATLI, i think LARZUK would be ideal
LO,LEM-AMN-RAL-ZOD-UM-KO
or how about this one D.I.A.B.L.O.
dol, io, amn, ber, Lo-lem, ort-ohm
or B.A.A.L.
ber-amn-amn-lo,lem
D.U.R.I.E.L.
dol, um, ral, io, eth/el/eld, lo/lem
but im just tossing ideas out there
Zephyrus said:
what about O.R.M.U.S.
ohm (ort), ral, mal, um, sur (sol, shael, whatever)
TYRAEL is also 6 letters but there aint no Y
AKARA would work
CHARSI
GHEED
FARA
LARZUK (someone better try that)
MALAH
i forgot the rest and i didnt read some of the pages prior to this one so why do you especially suspect HRATLI, i think LARZUK would be ideal
LO,LEM-AMN-RAL-ZOD-UM-KO
or how about this one D.I.A.B.L.O.
dol, io, amn, ber, Lo-lem, ort-ohm
or B.A.A.L.
ber-amn-amn-lo,lem
D.U.R.I.E.L.
dol, um, ral, io, eth/el/eld, lo/lem
but im just tossing ideas out there
Hi again! I just noticed that Wathombe's spreadsheet doesn't include testing table for sorceress orbs. Could you add it in there also? And I would also like to hear your opinions about the thing what I said in my earlier post. The thing is that there is 23 new runewords and 23 different item types that can have sockets. Coincidence? I seriously doubt it.
Cadogan Trahem
New member
Terror, Destruction, Hatred. All three are Rune Words maybe the names of the prime evils can lead us to the correct combination, there may even be clues for example Baal is in possession of Tal Rasha so maybe a stave, Mephisto has corrupted the Zakarum so perhaps a Paladin shield (though it doesn't really suit the theme...) and Terror just strikes me as something for a Wand.
2 socket blind testing
Swords:
EldNef
EthTir
ThulRal
IthEl
ElNef
NefOrt
Scepters:
ThulRal
Daggers:
IthTal
Armors
AmnDol
AmnShael
I would also want to say that if there are european players who would like to help in testing feel free to message me about it.
One guy already contacted me, hes account is *yhenon so this account could be added in spreadsheet. I will also start to put credits in my messages so everybody can see who have take part in testing.
Accounts involved:
*mmaketsu
*yhenon
Swords:
EldNef
EthTir
ThulRal
IthEl
ElNef
NefOrt
Scepters:
ThulRal
Daggers:
IthTal
Armors
AmnDol
AmnShael
I would also want to say that if there are european players who would like to help in testing feel free to message me about it.
One guy already contacted me, hes account is *yhenon so this account could be added in spreadsheet. I will also start to put credits in my messages so everybody can see who have take part in testing.
Accounts involved:
*mmaketsu
*yhenon
Morning, all.
Updated: wathombe's runeword spreadsheet
Apologies for my scarcity. As I mentioned, my parents are in town, and my wife is scrambling to finish a project on the computer for work, so my time on the machine is almost nil this weekend (damn I need a laptop). I'll be back on the forum full force when I get back to the office Monday (ironically), but not on realms much.
Zephyr: I was on Friday night around midnight, but didn't see you. Cheetah was on and had been looking for you. Watch for him, he wants to do forge runs. (*munster1)
Saturday testers: Thanks for all the tests. They're logged, updated, and uploaded. Thanks in particular to everyone who tested RalIth/IthRal.
silfos and 916_Andy: I can post the Kenny-Z clues again on Monday.
More from the European tester: The European tester has knocked off 11 more 1.07 recipes, posted below. He has offered to show me his method on Europe so that we can be convinced of the tests' accuracy, and I will take him up on that during the week and report here.
Thunder - HelIst - axe
Widowmaker - LumIstEldEld - bow
Destruction - EthRalGulAmn - axe
Reason - AmnVexLem - bone visage
Truth - FalUmOhmVexNefLum - phase blade
Valor - NefElLo - crystal sword
Chance - LoRal - falchion
Desire - LoOrtIth - bone visage
Lust - SolElOrtElLoEld - phase blade
Wrath - RalEthLoHelEl - colossus blade
Siren's Song - LoThulTalLem - maul
All failed.
There are only 21 untested recipes on the 1.07 list, so I think we can now conclude that all of the new runewords recipes do not come from this list, and perhaps none of them do. This leaves us with random testing and perhaps Kenny-Z clues. Not very promising.
Gotta run. More later or Monday.
Updated: wathombe's runeword spreadsheet
Apologies for my scarcity. As I mentioned, my parents are in town, and my wife is scrambling to finish a project on the computer for work, so my time on the machine is almost nil this weekend (damn I need a laptop). I'll be back on the forum full force when I get back to the office Monday (ironically), but not on realms much.
Zephyr: I was on Friday night around midnight, but didn't see you. Cheetah was on and had been looking for you. Watch for him, he wants to do forge runs. (*munster1)
Saturday testers: Thanks for all the tests. They're logged, updated, and uploaded. Thanks in particular to everyone who tested RalIth/IthRal.
silfos and 916_Andy: I can post the Kenny-Z clues again on Monday.
More from the European tester: The European tester has knocked off 11 more 1.07 recipes, posted below. He has offered to show me his method on Europe so that we can be convinced of the tests' accuracy, and I will take him up on that during the week and report here.
Thunder - HelIst - axe
Widowmaker - LumIstEldEld - bow
Destruction - EthRalGulAmn - axe
Reason - AmnVexLem - bone visage
Truth - FalUmOhmVexNefLum - phase blade
Valor - NefElLo - crystal sword
Chance - LoRal - falchion
Desire - LoOrtIth - bone visage
Lust - SolElOrtElLoEld - phase blade
Wrath - RalEthLoHelEl - colossus blade
Siren's Song - LoThulTalLem - maul
All failed.
There are only 21 untested recipes on the 1.07 list, so I think we can now conclude that all of the new runewords recipes do not come from this list, and perhaps none of them do. This leaves us with random testing and perhaps Kenny-Z clues. Not very promising.
Gotta run. More later or Monday.
OH! Munster1 is Cheetah! Yea, he already messaged me and we talked a bit about our chars and the whole forge rushing thing. He has two comps, which means he can rush himself. He does it a lot, I suppose. Anyway, he said something about it being a bit different with someone else rushing him.
Anyone think about this?
I've been shadowing this post for awhile now, and I think there is something you haven't considered yet, unless I missed an earlier post...
Blizzard would probably want us, D2 players, to start playing more of the unused char builds. In that effort, they probably made some runewords in items that do not have a runeword associated with them already...Here's an example, what are the only char specific runewords? Exile and Chaos? right? Well, lets assume in Blizzard's attempt to add parity to this group, they made a runeword in one, or all, of the following....druid helms, barb helms, zon javs, sorc crystals or necro shields. I'm willing to bet they made one for necro and druid...
I just think that instead of trying low rune permutations in an axe or cap...someone adventurous should check out this possiblities.
I've been shadowing this post for awhile now, and I think there is something you haven't considered yet, unless I missed an earlier post...
Blizzard would probably want us, D2 players, to start playing more of the unused char builds. In that effort, they probably made some runewords in items that do not have a runeword associated with them already...Here's an example, what are the only char specific runewords? Exile and Chaos? right? Well, lets assume in Blizzard's attempt to add parity to this group, they made a runeword in one, or all, of the following....druid helms, barb helms, zon javs, sorc crystals or necro shields. I'm willing to bet they made one for necro and druid...
I just think that instead of trying low rune permutations in an axe or cap...someone adventurous should check out this possiblities.
Dawns_requiem
New member
I'm back, and I'm loving all the helm testing going on. My classic forge rusher is 57 now, so we can start to do classic rushs soon. I think i wanna lvl her some more. I also think i might make a hammerdin soon sense i got most of the stuff for one. well i think i gonna go get on now.
Five quick tests:
EthTir - small shield
SolEl - helm
SolEld - skull cap
ElDol - skull cap
EthAmn - full helm
All gemmed.
Updated: wathombe's runeword spreadsheet
EthTir - small shield
SolEl - helm
SolEld - skull cap
ElDol - skull cap
EthAmn - full helm
All gemmed.
Updated: wathombe's runeword spreadsheet
Cadogan Trahem
New member
I figured I might leave my info here.
USWest Ladder Expansion, I have a 82 Bowazon who can do Hell Countess Runs (can't do forge rushes because I myself am only up to act 2 Hell)
/w *outlander102
I should mention that i'm from Australia so my times may conflict with others, also i'm on 56k so you bloody americans with your "broadband" may dislike me clogging up your bandwidth!
USWest Ladder Expansion, I have a 82 Bowazon who can do Hell Countess Runs (can't do forge rushes because I myself am only up to act 2 Hell)
/w *outlander102
I should mention that i'm from Australia so my times may conflict with others, also i'm on 56k so you bloody americans with your "broadband" may dislike me clogging up your bandwidth!
Here is a list of all item types that can have sockets.
1. Helms
2. Armor
3. Shields
4. Barbarian Helms
5. Druid Pelts
6. Paladin Shields
7. Necromancer Shrunken Heads
8. Axes
9. Bows
10. Crossbows
11. Daggers
12. Javelins
13. Maces
14. Mauls
15. Polearms
16. Scepters
17. Spears
18. Staves
19. Swords
20. Wands
21. Amazon Weapons
22. Assassin Katars
23. Sorceress Orbs
And as you can all see, there are 23 diffenrent types. My theory is that there will be new runeword for each item type. And only item type that can have only 2 sockets is wands so I think we should try to test them as much as possible. And the LumEld test for wands is missing from spreadsheet and IoHel and HelIo for armors are missing.
1. Helms
2. Armor
3. Shields
4. Barbarian Helms
5. Druid Pelts
6. Paladin Shields
7. Necromancer Shrunken Heads
8. Axes
9. Bows
10. Crossbows
11. Daggers
12. Javelins
13. Maces
14. Mauls
15. Polearms
16. Scepters
17. Spears
18. Staves
19. Swords
20. Wands
21. Amazon Weapons
22. Assassin Katars
23. Sorceress Orbs
And as you can all see, there are 23 diffenrent types. My theory is that there will be new runeword for each item type. And only item type that can have only 2 sockets is wands so I think we should try to test them as much as possible. And the LumEld test for wands is missing from spreadsheet and IoHel and HelIo for armors are missing.
mmaketsu
that's great thinking but.. most likely it will not happen. what am i talking about? i don't think blizzard will only give 1 armor runeword. or a 1 runeword for sword only. or that, it's not likely there will be a runeword for crossbows but not for bows. and since that's not likely, there are only 22 types of chance left? oh and you can't socket javelins... so that's 21? sorry, i'm not trying to bring down your idea or anything. great idea though
that's great thinking but.. most likely it will not happen. what am i talking about? i don't think blizzard will only give 1 armor runeword. or a 1 runeword for sword only. or that, it's not likely there will be a runeword for crossbows but not for bows. and since that's not likely, there are only 22 types of chance left? oh and you can't socket javelins... so that's 21? sorry, i'm not trying to bring down your idea or anything. great idea though
Sokar Rostau
New member
It is reasonable to assume, as has been suggested, that there will be new class specific runewords. Nothing for Paladins because we have Exile and nothing for Assassins because we have Chaos. It is also reasonable to assume that there will only be one or two and that Blizzard is holding out more recipes until season 3.
Druid pelts and Barb helms are very good possibilities simply because there are so few helm runewords.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a shrunken head simply because there already are many shield words out there. That doesn't mean they wouldn't do it.
Orbs. Hmmm. This is an each way thing because of the Oculus (and probably Eschuta's Temper), which is already a very powerful weapon. Would Blizzard really make something stronger, something so strong as to be ridiculous? Anything much weaker than a good old occy simply won't be in demand. That said Blizzard did give us BotD...and Wind...
Zons. Amazons have the most class specific items of any class. There are 3 amazon only item types one of which, bows, is already fairly well catered for in existing runewords. The second group of weapons are javelins which, of course, cannot be socketed. The third Amazon only item is the spear. If there is to be a zon only runeword it will most likely be in spears. Especially when you consider that the spearazon build has been so limited in 1.10, I would expect an oskill to make it effective.
So the best chances for class specific runewords would probably be helms, pelts and zon spears. The helms would be the best to concentrate on at first because they are already well tested in the two socket range and spears have too many variations to make random testing viable. I would also expect any class specific words to require high end runes (interestingly both existing class specific words have an Ohm in the second socket) and to provide either oskills or ctc off-class skills.
It might be a good idea to cease testing normal helms and to only test barb and druid helms because anything that turns up in a helm will work in class specific items but not the other way around. It will mean testing each combination twice instead of three times, thus freeing up more runes for testing elsewhere or for upgrading for higher tests.
As a matter of wistful speculation I would like to see a zon spear with an aura when equipped, perhaps defiance, conviction, fanaticism (adding much needed speed to impale) or concentration, any of these auras (except perhaps conviction) would go a long way towards making spearazons viable again. Also would like to see a chance to cast maybe blizzard or some other cold spell and, most importantly, self repair mod so that impale can be used without having to return to town every few minutes.
Hmmm. As a matter of fact it would be good to see a normal spear with impale as an oskill, maybe then we would see more spear barbs.
Hehe btw I did a few tests while the forum was down but guess what? I have no idea what exactly they were only 3 or 4 helm tests with low runes. I was expecting to just test and come here with results fresh in my mind. I really should have written them down....
Druid pelts and Barb helms are very good possibilities simply because there are so few helm runewords.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a shrunken head simply because there already are many shield words out there. That doesn't mean they wouldn't do it.
Orbs. Hmmm. This is an each way thing because of the Oculus (and probably Eschuta's Temper), which is already a very powerful weapon. Would Blizzard really make something stronger, something so strong as to be ridiculous? Anything much weaker than a good old occy simply won't be in demand. That said Blizzard did give us BotD...and Wind...
Zons. Amazons have the most class specific items of any class. There are 3 amazon only item types one of which, bows, is already fairly well catered for in existing runewords. The second group of weapons are javelins which, of course, cannot be socketed. The third Amazon only item is the spear. If there is to be a zon only runeword it will most likely be in spears. Especially when you consider that the spearazon build has been so limited in 1.10, I would expect an oskill to make it effective.
So the best chances for class specific runewords would probably be helms, pelts and zon spears. The helms would be the best to concentrate on at first because they are already well tested in the two socket range and spears have too many variations to make random testing viable. I would also expect any class specific words to require high end runes (interestingly both existing class specific words have an Ohm in the second socket) and to provide either oskills or ctc off-class skills.
It might be a good idea to cease testing normal helms and to only test barb and druid helms because anything that turns up in a helm will work in class specific items but not the other way around. It will mean testing each combination twice instead of three times, thus freeing up more runes for testing elsewhere or for upgrading for higher tests.
As a matter of wistful speculation I would like to see a zon spear with an aura when equipped, perhaps defiance, conviction, fanaticism (adding much needed speed to impale) or concentration, any of these auras (except perhaps conviction) would go a long way towards making spearazons viable again. Also would like to see a chance to cast maybe blizzard or some other cold spell and, most importantly, self repair mod so that impale can be used without having to return to town every few minutes.
Hmmm. As a matter of fact it would be good to see a normal spear with impale as an oskill, maybe then we would see more spear barbs.
Hehe btw I did a few tests while the forum was down but guess what? I have no idea what exactly they were only 3 or 4 helm tests with low runes. I was expecting to just test and come here with results fresh in my mind. I really should have written them down....
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