23 Runeword Search Thread

Hi!

Tested these combinations in armors. And none of them worked.

tirnef
tirith
neftal
ethnef
ethtal
itheld
ithtal
ithort
talort
thulel
thulral
 
I just tested these
EldTir
TirEth
TirNef
TirOrt
TirSol
IthTir
IthTal

I have screen shots if anyone wants them. Im gona go to countess runs for more lows, ill post my further results later
 
Man, I feel like I'm slacking pretty bad here. Nights are a little tough for me somedays since I have a few late work nights a week, light home renovations and quality time with the gf to cover. Thanks for all of the awesome work, I'll get this updated by lunch time or earlier. My spreadsheet is on my laptop that I can only get onto the internet from work, so once I get there I will update it.

Blue: I've never posted a weblink to my spreadsheet because I don't know how, and ....yeah I don't know how. I'm happy to email it to anyone that wants a copy. And as seen tonight more frequent updates would be great. I feel responsible for all the repeated testing I saw.

IliketoNARR: I have been noting words that were ONLY tested on the unmentionable site with a ^ instead of an *. There are many words that overlap between our conglomerate list and there's but I only added in extra item types if applicable.

Maybe we should start up a separate testing thread and keep this as Discussion only for organizational reasons. Only problem with that is getting neophytes interested in testing out runewords. Thoughts?
 
Don't worry about the duplicate testing - until the new words were mentioned I never picked up anything lower than thul unless I was looking to make a specific word. The spreadsheet is great. If anything - we are the ones causing the problem by not posting our results quite regularly. I've been running w/ this thead and the ss open in the background, tabbing across to check for updates, adding them to the ss if there are any, hiliting results on the ss when I test - then posting my results all at once. As we get into above thulthul type area, we should probably be posting each word as we test.
Now, I've got an Um and a Mal sitting in my stash now. I'm kind of waiting for some kind of yeah or ney sign from the KennyZ possible hints - and I definitely don't want to drop those in anything as a duplicate...
Dan
 
Wow this really looks like we're getting somewhere. I'm gonna feel real bad when there aren't any new two socket recipes. Also added Peril to my list, thanks again crusader. Here is the updated Armor grid. I may get time to play on Saturday, maybe I can even contribute some tests.

New grid:

El- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, Ral, Ort, Thul, Amn, Sol, ~, Dol, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Eld- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, Ral, Ort, Thul, Amn, Sol, ~, Dol, ~, Io, ~, ~, ~,
Tir- (El), Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, Ral, Ort, Thul, Amn, Sol ~, Dol, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Nef- ~, Eld, (Tir), ~, Eth, Ith, Tal, ~, Ort, Thul, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Lum), ~, ~,
Eth- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Lum), ~, ~,
Ith- El, Eld, Tir Nef, Eth, ~, Tal, ~, Ort, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Tal- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, (Eth), Ith, ~, ~, Ort, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ral- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ort- El, ~, ~, Nef, (Eth), ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Sol), ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Thul- El, Eld, ~, Nef, Eth, Ral, Tal, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Amn- El, ~, (Tir), ~, ~, ~, ~, Ral, ~, Thul, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Sol- El, ~, Tir, ~, Eth, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Shael- ~, ~, ~, ~, (Eth), ~, ~, ~, ~, Thul, ~, ~, ~, Dol, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Dol- ~, ~, ~, ~, Eth, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Io), ~, ~, ~,
Hel- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, Ith, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Io- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, Lum, ~, ~,
Lum- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ko- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Fal- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Lem- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Pul- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, Fal,
Um- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Mal- ~, ~, Tir, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ist- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Gul- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Vex- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ohm- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Lo- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Sur- (El), ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
 
Just noticed that the update didn't include the one combination tested by Zackardo.

Combination is NefEl (What a huge miss!) :P
 
I second Shaft, great work everybody.

I've updated my spreadsheet, which is available for dl here:

http://home.comcast.net/~wathombe/diablo2/wathombes_runeword_database.xls

Shaft, I'd be happy to host your spreadsheet, too, if you want to e-mail me regular copies.

I show 111 of the 256 2soc armor recipes <=Io eliminated as of this morning. As Dan said, it's going to get slower as we get >Thul. If any of you have extra low runes <Thul, I would suggest starting to test helms, next, but that's certainly open for discussion. I have grids for sixteen item types in my spreadsheet if it helps.

Shaft, I think we should keep all the discussion and testing in one thread. It's stickied, people can follow one thread, people who are throwing out theories can see what we've tested, et cetera. Do you think the test posts clutter up the thread too much?

At any rate, I should have some playing time this w/e. I'm halfway through Act 5 NM, so I'll be getting to Hell Countess soon, which will be a big help. Later.
 
Man you got a good eye mmaketsu, thanks.

Whatombe, I was just thinking it might be easier for the people that are trying to keep track of what has been tested in between updates, but as you point out, the stickied part of this thread makes it much easier.
Also I'll send you a copy of my spreadsheet once I get all of the pages updated, have a few holes to fill in before it'll be open for public viewing and thanks for offering to host it.

New corrected version of the grid, notice Nef El combo:

El- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, Ral, Ort, Thul, Amn, Sol, ~, Dol, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Eld- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, Ral, Ort, Thul, Amn, Sol, ~, Dol, ~, Io, ~, ~, ~,
Tir- (El), Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, Ral, Ort, Thul, Amn, Sol ~, Dol, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Nef- El, Eld, (Tir), ~, Eth, Ith, Tal, ~, Ort, Thul, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Lum), ~, ~,
Eth- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Lum), ~, ~,
Ith- El, Eld, Tir Nef, Eth, ~, Tal, ~, Ort, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Tal- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, (Eth), Ith, ~, ~, Ort, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ral- El, Eld, Tir, Nef, Eth, Ith, Tal, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ort- El, ~, ~, Nef, (Eth), ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Sol), ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Thul- El, Eld, ~, Nef, Eth, Ral, Tal, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Amn- El, ~, (Tir), ~, ~, ~, ~, Ral, ~, Thul, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Sol- El, ~, Tir, ~, Eth, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Shael- ~, ~, ~, ~, (Eth), ~, ~, ~, ~, Thul, ~, ~, ~, Dol, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Dol- ~, ~, ~, ~, Eth, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, (Io), ~, ~, ~,
Hel- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, Ith, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Io- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, Lum, ~, ~,
Lum- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ko- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Fal- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Lem- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Pul- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, Fal,
Um- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Mal- ~, ~, Tir, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ist- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Gul- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Vex- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Ohm- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Lo- ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
Sur- (El), ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~, ~,
 
Shaft.ed said:
Also I'll send you a copy of my spreadsheet once I get all of the pages updated, have a few holes to fill in before it'll be open for public viewing and thanks for offering to host it.
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No problem. Here's my e-mail address in case you don't still have it. It's a good idea to keep posting the grid here for those who don't want to dl a file, though (and I can never manage to format anything write for the ascii forums).
 
I like having the ss available to dl - and I also like having all of the information in the one thread. That lets me dl the ss - and check the forum and keep my own copy updated when people post grid trials. Good work on organization - now maybe we'll get lucky and actually find one of the new words ;)
Dan
 
kenny's round 9 question is up...

Ceru is on a roll winning two rounds in a row!

Here is the next question:

What is the significance of seven in the Diablo universe?
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Can't sleep, forums will eat me...


obviously there are the seven evils...the three prime and the four lesser...and there are seven different character types to choose from...and there are seven tombs in the canyon of the magi.

and metaldemoness posted this:

"Seven is the number of the powers in Hell, and Seven is the number of the Great Evils."

~Courtesy Diablo 1 Manual =P

i find the manner of the question most intriguing though, as it's "seven" he asks about. one poster there raised the same point...he'd didn't actually phrase it the "number seven" but "seven." coming on the tail of the drognan and geglash clues (since there's seven letters in their names), i can't help but think he's doing this on purpose. sadly, this would suggest at least a vex being used...and perhaps a sur with it if the high level runeword trend continues.

or is this too easy?
 
zygomis: Yes, there's certainly some significance to the number or word "seven" that we're not yet getting. In absence of any other epiphany, though, assuming some sort of word like:

Sol/Shael/Sur El/Eld/Eth Vex El/Eld/Eth Nef

seems most reasonable. 27 possible recipes there, though.

All:

Shaft has e-mailed me his updated spreadsheet, which is now available for dl at the following link:

http://home.comcast.net/~wathombe/diablo2/shafts_runeword_database.xls

I'll keep it updated as Shaft sends me updated files.
 
Did they ever say how many for these question rounds there would be? I have a theory that I am going to test, ill post the results of it when im done.
 
Ok - update so far this evening - checked the following and all negative:
EldTir
EldEth
TirNef
EthNef
EthTal
IthEld
IthTal
OrtIth
DolEl
Dan
 
Hey Dan, just out of curiosity, what do you do for runes? I pick up every last one I see, and even If I hadn't cubed any, gotten the ones others beat me to, and doubled it, I still doubt I would have been able to test more then 10 combinations...is there some secret beauty parlor of runes I am missing somewhere?
 
Ikeren said:
Hey Dan, just out of curiosity, what do you do for runes? I pick up every last one I see, and even If I hadn't cubed any, gotten the ones others beat me to, and doubled it, I still doubt I would have been able to test more then 10 combinations...is there some secret beauty parlor of runes I am missing somewhere?
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Well, I'm 72nd level now - spending a lot of time in the 'boring' parts of nightmare. I don't tele anywere. I typically will start a nm game, waypoint to stoney field and find rakinishu and the stones. Kill him and go through and kill griswold and the champs there. Then I've been doing the countess. After that mephi runs and Shrek, er Shenk - and sometimes baal. Most of the runes are either dropped by the countess, or dropped by regular things I kill along the way. The ghost lords and carvers have donated many to the cause.
I've got the Um and Mal both thanks to ghost lords, and one of the Io's was from a chest in mephi's chamber. Amazingly enough (in a bad way) both forge drops were Dol's for me for this character.
In addition, my fiance and her brother are playing characters earlier on - like in the 20-30 range. I give them set and unique items and they pass on all their runes as well.
I also am somewhat lacking in MF for my level - I'd be surprised if I'm much over 100 - I think that may help runes drop instead of other things - but that may just be in my head.
Dan
 
zygomis said:
kenny's round 9 question is up...

Ceru is on a roll winning two rounds in a row!

Here is the next question:

What is the significance of seven in the Diablo universe?
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Also, 7 is the perfect number, and the symbol of perfection is 777. Thus the number of evil is 6 and it is sybolic for 666(mark of the beast), which falls short of perfection.

Dont really know if that helps any :lol: , but at least its mentioned now
 
Answer to Ikeren's question. I've got all my runes from countess. 250 runs behind and
still going to keep it on (only used couple of runes for this testing).
 
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