23 Runeword Search Thread

Busy But Not Gone

wow first day of school can really get to you. homework already but i got it all finished up. took a nap because of the night before of d2, sleep had to catch up. i'm still around to gather some runes and such. if there are any ideas that you guys want to test out, i'm still around to gather runes to try. just a heads up. (oh cool thing, starting next week, i won't have school till 9:25 am (except Tuesday's and Wednesdays) and 10:30 on Mondays. looks like i can stay up a little late for things :drool: )
 
Pandorapuss said:
norm cow games as well as nm are a great place to find 2 socket shields, although 2 out of 5 odds against a 1 socket. I'll take my chances.
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You can buy 2-socket shields from merchants in acts 1 and 2 of normal very easily. Don't waste your time trying to find them.
 
Ok I've managed to read all 1062 posts thus far, with little or no comment (I think I got a posting error of some sort last two times I tried. I'm on WHCL, and would be glad to donate runes I don't need (anything less than io at this point, sans ral). I've about 20-30 runes right now I don't need, so if anyone wants to grab 'em, *YellowDyeNo5 or *SinsO_theFlesh are my accounts. I applaud you folks for all the work, and will donate anything I don't need from my excessive countess runs to the cause.
 
Some wild speculation...

I followed the "quest for the holy 23 runewords" since the start, and I think I can add some more speculation for the acronym search.
In bow :
Ral - Amn - Ith/Io/Ist - Nef (RAIN to make a rain-bow :drool: )
I'll go for ith for a start (go with the LL, fire dam., knockback theme), but it can be Ist (not a lot of high level rune, so...)
This one is an easy test (always good)

And if someone at Blizzard just speak french, maybe,
Eth/Eld - Nef - Cham - Ith/Io/Ist - Eld/Eth - Lem (ENCIEL, because in french bow is "arc" and rainbow is "arc en ciel")
And as the legends say, if you can find the rainbow feet, you'll be rewarded with gold by some leprechaun (or pinguins, or whatever), and Lem/Ist goes with this...

Maybe i'll get some crazy others ideas :flip: , since then, good luck :worship:


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some more... in french
in sword :
Lo - Amn - Mal - Eth
Yeah, I known it's lame, but in french "lame" is blade, and all the mods are just what I will easily see on a good sword (prevent monster heal, 20% crushing blow, 7% LL, -25% monster defense)

and another, french and english
in club :
Mal - Amn - Cham - Eth
Mal - Amn - Shael - Sur - Eth
"Masse" is Mace in french. Obviously, MACE seem the way to go (prevent monster heal, 7% LL, Freeze target +3, -25% defense), but it's really an high-end word... :cheesy:
 
wathombe said:
It is in there. Sixth word, first line. ;)
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I must be blind. *smashes head against wall*

About using multiple times a same rune : yes please, if you could feed that to your anagram program, I'd appreciate it. I actually think it won't add much possibilities, but who knows ?


Sokar Ratsau :

First of all, I don't think acronyms are useless. Perhaps we don't have more chances of actually finding a word with this method than with using the 2-sockets grid, but for sure we do not have less chances.

Also, you use as evidence the fact that very few current words are acronyms. This is absolutely true. However, there have been six such words implemented in the 1.10 patch (Breath of the Dying, Exile, Hand of Justice, Bramble, Famine and Crescent Moon, albeit the last two are questionable), while absolutely none existed before (except possibly King's Grace, but I seriously believe than one is a coincidence). To me, this is a clear indication that there will be acronyms in the "1.23 patch".

Finally, you proposed ERA for the Eternity word, but Eternity has already been implemented in the 1.10 patch (it's for melee weapons, and obviously makes indestructible).

I agree on your major point though : WoW is our best hint source. The problem, as I stated before, is that before we can use a hint, we must understand it ; even worse, we must first find it.


Catlaw :

If you have a Cham to spend, and albeit you seem to be biaised towards three socket helms :D, I urge you to test the following word in a mace :

Mal Amn Cham Eth

This has been proposed just above by bleuciel, but I have discussed multiple item class / rune acronyms possibilities a few pages before. To sum it up, I'll say that Eth is considerably more likely than El or Eld as a final letter, as all existing runewords tend to prove. If you do want to test that word, you'll need a Flail / Knout / Scourge, since these are the only mace-class weapons that can have four sockets (for this particular purpose, hammers and mauls are not considered maces).


Bleuciel :

I definitely think we should stick to English. Things would become impossible otherwise. The RAIN bow is a very good idea however, and easy to test with Ith or Io.
 
Wathombe, thanks for the input. I am so used to playing and finding whatever that I need, that I didn't even consider buying the items that I need. I will begin my rune hunting tonight. within 3 to 4 hours, I should yeild 20 to 30 runes of the lower more common type. I will begin with the swords, since there seems to be very little there. I color-code modified my copy of your spreadsheet so that the first areas that I will look through will be from El - Eld through El - Thul, 90 possibilities. Blanket effect will take place tonight, and I believe that I can have the first 20 or so knocked out by midnight tonight, PST. Time for some Rockstar energy drinks, it's gonna be a long one. For those of you that wish to join in, I am on USwest and my account name is *pandorapuss_dod

I will be running norm and nm countess. I always find 2 socket swords on the way to countess, and am quite sure that I can shop using the wp in act one to buy some 2 socket swords. I will check back here frequently, so Wathombe, if there are any recent updates to the spreadsheet (being that your work schedual may have you away from it) I will look here for them and post what I find for the time being until such time that you update it.

GIT ER DONE!!!!!!!!!! :yep:
 
In prior posts, I have failed to mention that I belong to a USWest online clan by the name of Defenders of the Dark. (hence the dod at the end of my account name.) I will e-mail my fellow members (roughly 15 - 20 members of the 30 or so we had playing thistime last year) and request their help with runes and socketable items. Two of whom some may remember from the D2.net market place, Adddm (aka Paul/Ambrosia) and my buddy Steve aka Sirdoofuss, although what his market place name was, I do not remember.

I will mail them all now and get the ball moving. :buddies:
 
Pandorapuss said:
In prior posts, I have failed to mention that I belong to a USWest online clan by the name of Defenders of the Dark. (hence the dod at the end of my account name.) I will e-mail my fellow members (roughly 15 - 20 members of the 30 or so we had playing thistime last year) and request their help with runes and socketable items. Two of whom some may remember from the D2.net market place, Adddm (aka Paul/Ambrosia) and my buddy Steve aka Sirdoofuss, although what his market place name was, I do not remember.

I will mail them all now and get the ball moving. :buddies:
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poor marketplace... :( it used to be so good. but is dead now. ohwell.

there are a few interesting words using high runes, the MACE word being one and i quoted one on the last page that are very likely. i think we should test these with rollback asap.
 
Yeah, I proposed MACE because the person said he had a Cham, and I see no better place to test it than into MACE, especially since there is almost only one combination (Eth being much more likely than El or Eld in this final position).

I will make a spreadsheet with runewords whose acronym only leaves one possible item type (which includes my proposed acronyms, the RAIN bow, and anything else someone can come with, as long as the acronym clearly indicates the item type). Please post (or repost, I won't reread the whole thread) any suggestions :)
 
Evilspork said:
poor marketplace... :( it used to be so good. but is dead now. ohwell.

there are a few interesting words using high runes, the MACE word being one and i quoted one on the last page that are very likely. i think we should test these with rollback asap.
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Truth
Lum Io El/Eld/Eth (LIE)

Lo, Ist, Eth in a weapon. maybe a claw sounds REALLY good and very possible.

i couldnt edit my above post, so heres the 2 i think need testing.
 
Morning, all.

Latest version: wathombe's runeword spreadsheet
(please note that the acronyms page is still under construction)

Europe news: Our anonymous European tester e-mailed me this morning to let me know that his clan's rollback method had been discovered and patched, so rollback testing on Europe is now over. They had found some bug in the game that they were able to exploit for a two to three minute rollback. It would not work for dupes, because it rolled back the entire game or somesuch (I don't really understand it), but they could use it to test using the same rune numerous times (and to reroll items and runeword mods over and over until perfect, of course). This was a bug exploit rather than a hack, but has now been patched.

Catlaw: I would also suggest testing one of the remaining high-level 1.07 words: Rain (ChamIth in a club), Trust (AmnEldCham in a helm), or Unbending Will (OrtChamTalTal in body armor).

YellowDye: We don't really have any active testers on HC West, unforunately. I would suggest one of two things: 1) download the spreadsheet, pick one of the 2-socket grid item types, buy some 2-socket items from Charsi, and start testing yourself; or 2) I can start a HC character, meet you to take the runes off your hands, maybe borrow enough gold from you for one 2-socket item to get me started, then I can test them. Let me know.

Apom: Actually, I think multiples of the same runes would add quite a lot to the list, not to mention adding more possibilities to the words already on the list with multiples of 'e' and 't'. Just allowing for two of any particular rune almost doubles the unedited list of possible words (422 to 752). If you want me to send you the raw list as a text file, PM me or post your e-mail address and I'll send it. In the meantime, I'll continue working on the list I posted above.

Pandora: Sounds good. Post your results here, and they will be duly logged.

Evilspork: See above re: rollback.
 
Wathombe and Catlaw :
Yeah, testing Rain, Trust or Unbending Will is just as good (if not better, so we can finish that 1.07 list).

Wathombe :

I've gone through your list and there's only one new word that's actually interesting (at least, that I find interesting ) : DREAD, which could be a weapon.

All :
My acronymic runewords spreadsheet is available for download here.

Also, I've PMed Dire-Wulf (original poster of this thread) to know if he would accept to edit his first message in order to give directions to the most recent spreadsheets (Wathombe's in particular), so first comers don't have to ask or read the entire thread. Perhaps it had been done before, I don't know, but well it didn't cost me much ;)
 
hey I am going to do 2 soc reg helms I got an excel spreadsheet for all possibilities. As soon as I can figure out how to list my spreadsheet here I will. If ya guys can let me know how to this I will
 
Apom: You're a good man for going through the list. I'll add 'dread' to my acronym-page-in-the-works. Also, Dire-wulf won't be able to edit his post, as you can't edit your posts more than an hour after posting. That's why I do the Weekly Update thread in the stats forum, so new searchers will have all the information in one place without wading through all 40+ pages.

stormie sarge: You should check out my spreadsheet (here) before you start, as we've already tested approx. 150 of the possible 2-socket permutations. The helm grid is the sixth or seventh page in the spreadsheet.
 
wathombe can you contact the europe tester about trying the two words i listed at teh bottom of the last page? im really interested to see that.
 
Evilspork said:
wathombe can you contact the europe tester about trying the two words i listed at teh bottom of the last page? im really interested to see that.
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wathombe said:
Europe news: Our anonymous European tester e-mailed me this morning to let me know that his clan's rollback method had been discovered and patched, so rollback testing on Europe is now over.
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No longer an option, I'm afraid.
 
I know. I was gonna ask how to go about using that rollback tech to do some extensive spreadsheet filling in. Guess it is no longer plausible. :-(
 
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