1.07 News, Info and Gossip

[Arkardo]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

The only two major items that give a % bonus to health based on life are the Harlequin Crest and the Grandfather. The Harlequin Crest is obviously the only item you'd use here.
Pumping Energy and using ES is still great, because max Warmth + ES + many points in Energy = great safety* and lots of mana (FO/Static Field spamming and faster racking).

You WILL probably spam SF a lot, because FO is a timered spell. You can easily spam 3 SF's (probably more with decent FCR) in between FO casts. SF spamming in cow runs = win.

The good point about rejuvenations combined with ES is that damage is devided to reduces both life and mana. Rejuvenation potions also restore both.

About your strength: have at least enough for wearing Skullder's Ire, as it's a key item for reaching MF breakpoints. This can get you easy access to items like 'avina's True Sight (the set Diadem).

*In later patches, positive resists are ignored while having ES (or at least I think). In 1.07, this is not the case and damage reduction from resists are applied before ES.

 

[snickersnack]

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Has anyone been able to use GoMule with 1.07 characters? When I load the .d2s file, she's empty. I'm using ATMA for now, but I really prefer GoMule.

Edit: Okay, I'm convinced. Thanks for explaining it. Should I try to keep my mana and life at similar levels, or should I go for as much mana as possible?

 

[purplelocust]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

GoMule doesn't work with anything but 1.10+ LoD characters. I think the file formats changed significantly so that would be a huge undertaking for Silopsen et al.

 

[snickersnack]

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I played 1.07 for the first time yesterday for about 3-4 hours. I closed the game and now when I start up again, after it asks about generating a file and window mode, I get this:

Diablo II Error

Halt
Location : , line #575
Expression : Unrecoverable internal error 6f8f13ca

I played 1.12a a bit after closing 1.07 yesterday, if that matters.

I'm going to try googling the error text and also reextracting the mod; any other ideas?

Edit: 1.12a still runs btw. Also, I'm using TrenShadow's version switcher. I think for now, I'll just install a second directory.

Another edit: should this be posted in the mod help thread instead?

 

[Arkardo]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

Just a wild guess: are you using a modified dll for multiple instances? If so, you may have placed an 1.10+ dll in the 1.07 directory.

About the vitality/mana question: I have 110 vitality (only at that point I realized I had to pump energy ) and I still find myself using full rejuventation potions while running cows. You might want to put everything in energy. Questing will be more difficult, but remember that once you're ready for racking your hit points hardly matter.

 

[Demonuga]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

The only two major items that give a % bonus to health based on life are the Harlequin Crest and the Grandfather. The Harlequin Crest is obviously the only item you'd use here.

+ Doombringer. But don't matter for sorc in any case

I have found Valkyries Wing from hell consuls Great helm w/ 30% frw, fhr, fcr, attack speed.
Bartuc's dropped from uniq medved in A1. Trash, only with 35% ED.
Luck in my side - I play in 1.08 w/o FMI

Still looking rack's for second Valor and Elegant Blade...

 

[raconteur]

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Hi guys
I wanted to bring up something odd that i noticed w/ my barb.

He is wearing Laying of Hands during his current job as charm/crafting ingredient harvester while murdering the Council.

When popping one of the chests right there in there room it was trapped w/ fire(not the firebolt , the mini firewall thing where the chest and surrounding area are on fire)

To get to the point, while just standing there in the fire, I was losing hit points(!?)

This barb actually has stacked resist on accident for fire, if the LCS showed such things, he would be at 91FR. Add that to 50% fire absorb, a barbs naturally massive hitpoints, and i dont see how its possible for me to lose life.

So has the "fire absorb" ever been tested on 1.07 LOH? It wouldnt be the first wack thing found in this version.(Immediatly i think of the "gold find" on Skullders Ire)

Anyone have any more info on this?

Thnx as always...
R.

 

[Arkardo]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

I can think of three possibilities:

1. Perhaps absorb % was capped at 40 already back then
2. Damage per frame doesn't get absorbed
3. Environmental damage doesn't get absorbed

Otherwise... I'm just as stumped as your are! :badteeth:

 

[purplelocust]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

Is this softcore? Had you died already in that game? I'm not sure about 1.07, but in later versions if you die and rescue your corpse, the resistance scroll rewards from Anya appear on the LCS but don't have any effect- in other words, your resists might have been 30% lower than you think they might be. Just an idea for a possible explanation.

 

[raconteur]

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Thanx for the response...both of you.

@purplelocust: Yes this was softcore and no I had NOT died in that game, I think I die maybe once in 2-3hundred runs(to slopiness).

Hmm still puzzled, even if it was the anya bug, I woulda been at about 60% res. +50 absorb, I would think that would keep me from losing hp's.?!?

 

[Corrupted]

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Has anyone had issues running 1.07 on Vista? With or without TrenShadow's Version Switcher?

 

[snickersnack]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

Just a wild guess: are you using a modified dll for multiple instances? If so, you may have placed an 1.10+ dll in the 1.07 directory.

About the vitality/mana question: I have 110 vitality (only at that point I realized I had to pump energy ) and I still find myself using full rejuventation potions while running cows. You might want to put everything in energy. Questing will be more difficult, but remember that once you're ready for racking your hit points hardly matter.

Huh, I thought I replied to this already.

I may have done that, I don't know. I just installed a second copy since I have plenty of hd space anyway. But now, 1.12 and 1.07 want to look in the same save folder. If I rename the one I don't want to use, then it can't be found, so the game finds the one I didn't rename, but that was a hassle. So, I just keep them all in the same folder, but I renamed my sorc to Seven_Pressure to minimize the chance of accidentally opening in 1.12a. I also make frequent backups (at least once a week).

I think I've got about 50 in vita so far (including the base), energy is higher. I haven't played her in a week or so since my death kicker has caught my interest again (after making HotO).

 

[stfrn]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

I played 1.07 for the first time yesterday for about 3-4 hours. I closed the game and now when I start up again, after it asks about generating a file and window mode, I get this:

Diablo II Error

Halt
Location : , line #575
Expression : Unrecoverable internal error 6f8f13ca

I played 1.12a a bit after closing 1.07 yesterday, if that matters.

Aha! For the last few days I've been having the same error. One difference being that my 1.07 works, but it's 1.12 that gives the error. I tried reinstalling 1.12, which worked for a while, but then it went back to the same error and I was stumped. However, I looked at the files and timestamps, and apparently game.exe is not being switched properly. I'm guessing it has something to do with the version 1.12 game.exe being different from 1.11? anyone else have any experence with this?:scratchchin:

eta2: also noticed I had a 60kb game.baq, which should be right, but it's not switching right for me. I'll look into this more later.

 

[snickersnack]

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I've now got her to level 31. She can kill baal's minions fine, but she's died to baal twice. I was using a risky strategy where I'd static him down first, but that wasn't working. I've starting doing to mfing, hoping to find some gear with better resists or more mf for the first time I kill baal.

Now I've got a question. Are tower shields the lightest shields that can get 3os?

I've got raltalort from the soldier quest and I want to make ancient's pledge (good idea?). If I had and perfect or flawless diamonds, I'd just stick them in it. I'll also make bramble since I've found raleth and a serpentskin armor.

Edit: Killed baal with some good strategy: hide behind pillars and deliver blizz or FO potshots.

 

[Arkardo]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

I think Kite Shields are the lightest shields for that. I shopped mine by running from Charsie to the WP and then to... uuuhh... that paladin woman in Act 2, forgot her name. And then back to Charsie again.

 

[snickersnack]

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I think Kite Shields are the lightest shields for that. I shopped mine by running from Charsie to the WP and then to... uuuhh... that paladin woman in Act 2, forgot her name. And then back to Charsie again.

Thanks; that's what I'll do.

For some reason, I had it in my head that someone said I need at least 75 str so I can hold tower shields.

 

[purplelocust]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

A kite shield can have 3 sockets and counts as a "light" shield, whereas tower can have 3 but the shield is "heavy." The downside of the kite shield is its low chance to block, which is why the 3 perfect diamond tower shield was popular pre-patch (and still is in Classic.)

 

[snickersnack]

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Right. This character isn't spending points in dex, so I considered a tower shield, but 5% block verus 3% block isn't worth the run speed penalty. I guess whoever said I should use a tower shield thought I was going for some blocking.

 

[purplelocust]

Re: 1.07 News, Info and Gossip

My current stable thresher rack has been quite productive with lots of good socketed/socketable ones. No ethereal superior ones (well, besides two with one socket each!) yet but I'll continue to run it and hopefully build up a pile.

I've had some great magic threshers drop but I haven't had good luck with socketing. I have a lot of 1.07 socketing quests from mules/rushees etc and I've been making regular use of them. I've had now at least 10 cruel or otherwise high ED threshers of quickness/swiftness and the most sockets I've gotten with any of them is 3! That is- until today! I socketed a cruel thresher of quickness and finally got one with 4 sockets- of course, it had to happen to an ethereal one!

So I've got a ridiculously nice weapon but it's ethereal and so it will be merc-bound. In 1.07, the listed damage is 404 and I think that will increase to almost 600 if I bring it forward. I'll have to look at merc speed breakpoints if I want to get the best use from its sockets. One odd thing is that in 1.12 I still haven't yet found an ethereal Reaper's Toll!

 

[Arkardo]

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I've been contemplating a melee Sorceress using some 1.07 items for a while, and I've come up with these basic setups:

Weapon: Passion OR Kingslayer
Armor: 1.07 Gladiator's Bane (25 PDR/20 MDR) OR 1.07 Arkaine's Valor (+2 skills, life, life, LIFE)
1.07 Gerke's Sanctuary (14 PDR & MDR, 2 Vitality/character level) OR Stormshield

The idea is to use Energy Shield in combination with some PDR stuff. 1.07 Gladiator's Bane + Gerke's Sanctuary gives a nice 39 PDR to start with. The problem, however, is getting a good offense; Enchant is nice, but fire immunity is too common to rely on it alone. Also, the problem with Passion is that you need an additional 3 to all skills to reach level 4 Zeal. While I COULD use a Harlequin Crest or Andariel's Visage, Guillame's Face is just too hard to pass up. So, an 1.07 Arkaine's Valor would provide a great amount of life, as well as 2 to all skills. No PDR, though. The last skill to all would come from Highlord's Wrath.

Another approach would be to use Kingslayer, which would also give us some extra elemental damage, but is slower attacking with.

To sum the problem up, Gladiator's Bane and Gerke's with ES will give an excellent defense, but low offense. AV with whatever shield give a little better offense, but less defense. Passion gives great fire damage and triggers CB often with Enchant and some CB gear, but is limited to just that. Kingslayer provides elemental damage, but attacks slower.

So, uuuh, what are your experiences with this? This build is probably months, maybe years away from being build, but I just keep wondering about the setup...