1.07 News, Info and Gossip
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Max you are running SC char? In that case you want something like 100IAS / 100% CB setup with as much frw as you can get.
Just couple tips; don't bother with javelin skills, lightning damage is worthless. Don't bother with maxers in inventory, they don't work with LF. Only thing worth having in inventory are frw charms. And you will need them as your overall frw with setup I recommend is rather low.
Head: guil's face (35CB 15 IAS jewel)
Amulet: cat's eye (20 IAS 30 frw)
Weapon: crafted javelin with 10 IAS min and as much damage as you can get or stack/rep combo (damage isn't even that important)
Armor: rattlecage (25% CB 15 IAS jewel)
Shield: tiamat's rebuke (4 x elemental damage 10-20 damage that works on LF, 15IAS jewel)
Gloves: 20IAS/15CB craft (or 20/10 lesser craft, forget javelin skills)
Belt: mav's
Boots: goblin toes (25% CB)
Ring1: RF
Ring2: mpk, random craft, anything goes
You can and don't have to bother with switch where you can have cruel crafted elite bow with shaenefshae and 1 point GA to kill remaining cows. Check breakpoints for bow base choice.
Max LF, pierce, 1 point GA and do whatever you want with rest of the skills. Decoy, valk, stronger GA, whatever you fancy.
With setup above you will rock 100IAS/95-100CB on your zon. Gear has only 70 frw, but you can use your inventory to ramp it up with plain 3 frw scs. Spare javelin is also good choice.
Since your zon will be pure physical damage, watch out for cow king. Avoid that area completely since she can oneshot him with some good pierce/CB procs.
CB scales with high psettings in 1.07 so she will be effective in MP games as well. It might not be worst idea to get ctc amp damage on your javelin if you are lucky, but it's far from necessary. It would help you picking remaining few cows with your bow. Knockback is also nice, but needed for HC only.
I think this is single best setup you can come up with. Shield is also not relevant. Only thing you want to do it get as high cb as possible, hit either 55 or 95 IAS brakpoints, have CBF and cold damage source and have enough sustain with ml,ll,mpk and spare javelin
Max you are running SC char? In that case you want something like 100IAS / 100% CB setup with as much frw as you can get.
Just couple tips; don't bother with javelin skills, lightning damage is worthless. Don't bother with maxers in inventory, they don't work with LF. Only thing worth having in inventory are frw charms. And you will need them as your overall frw with setup I recommend is rather low.
Head: guil's face (35CB 15 IAS jewel)
Amulet: cat's eye (20 IAS 30 frw)
Weapon: crafted javelin with 10 IAS min and as much damage as you can get or stack/rep combo (damage isn't even that important)
Armor: rattlecage (25% CB 15 IAS jewel)
Shield: tiamat's rebuke (4 x elemental damage 10-20 damage that works on LF, 15IAS jewel)
Gloves: 20IAS/15CB craft (or 20/10 lesser craft, forget javelin skills)
Belt: mav's
Boots: goblin toes (25% CB)
Ring1: RF
Ring2: mpk, random craft, anything goes
You can and don't have to bother with switch where you can have cruel crafted elite bow with shaenefshae and 1 point GA to kill remaining cows. Check breakpoints for bow base choice.
Max LF, pierce, 1 point GA and do whatever you want with rest of the skills. Decoy, valk, stronger GA, whatever you fancy.
With setup above you will rock 100IAS/95-100CB on your zon. Gear has only 70 frw, but you can use your inventory to ramp it up with plain 3 frw scs. Spare javelin is also good choice.
Since your zon will be pure physical damage, watch out for cow king. Avoid that area completely since she can oneshot him with some good pierce/CB procs.
CB scales with high psettings in 1.07 so she will be effective in MP games as well. It might not be worst idea to get ctc amp damage on your javelin if you are lucky, but it's far from necessary. It would help you picking remaining few cows with your bow. Knockback is also nice, but needed for HC only.
I think this is single best setup you can come up with. Shield is also not relevant. Only thing you want to do it get as high cb as possible, hit either 55 or 95 IAS brakpoints, have CBF and cold damage source and have enough sustain with ml,ll,mpk and spare javelin
Pretty sure that the physical damage from Tiamat's is not included, actually. :/
I disagree that +skills is not useful though. Every skill point is 1 extra maximum Lightning Fury bolt. So if you herd big groups like WoRG described then you will greatly benefit from having more points in LF. If you herd 30 cows but you are capped to 23 LF bolts, you miss out on some very good damage, especially because a successful pierce will then again get capped. I would probably fill my entire inventory with Javelin skillers for the sole purpose of getting more LF bolts per impact. So the +5 on helvete's javelin imo is an awesome stat.
I disagree that +skills is not useful though. Every skill point is 1 extra maximum Lightning Fury bolt. So if you herd big groups like WoRG described then you will greatly benefit from having more points in LF. If you herd 30 cows but you are capped to 23 LF bolts, you miss out on some very good damage, especially because a successful pierce will then again get capped. I would probably fill my entire inventory with Javelin skillers for the sole purpose of getting more LF bolts per impact. So the +5 on helvete's javelin imo is an awesome stat.
Well the quote from frozzzen says "10-20 damage that works on LF", so I figured I'd mention that that's a no. So yeah, Tiamat's is only for the elemental damage. It's still one of the best choices for a shield imo. WoRG had a nice crafted Luna that I'd probably pick over it. He has all the gear, man.
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@WoRG
Taken a look at +%Enhanced Damage for two-handed melee weapons, but it's no different from bows. Initially, there is no cap, the value can for sure go beyond 511. In my test case (shown below), it ended up +563%. The base damage was 67-92, so the (real) damage ended up being 444-609. Obviously, the description says otherwise:
(just a test craft that I won't be keeping)
Then when I left the game, two things happened. Firstly, the +%ED was truncated to 511, and the 1-1 bonus to the base damage was lost. So now the (real) stats looked like: 66-91 base with +511%, giving it 403-556 damage. The description remained the same, so that had in fact become accurate after leaving & joining.
So whatever happened to your craft there, it must have been some special thing. (For anyone reading this who doesn't know what I'm on about, see these posts for context: one & two.) Perhaps it was a stat "merge" we're not aware of yet.
Taken a look at +%Enhanced Damage for two-handed melee weapons, but it's no different from bows. Initially, there is no cap, the value can for sure go beyond 511. In my test case (shown below), it ended up +563%. The base damage was 67-92, so the (real) damage ended up being 444-609. Obviously, the description says otherwise:
(just a test craft that I won't be keeping)
Then when I left the game, two things happened. Firstly, the +%ED was truncated to 511, and the 1-1 bonus to the base damage was lost. So now the (real) stats looked like: 66-91 base with +511%, giving it 403-556 damage. The description remained the same, so that had in fact become accurate after leaving & joining.
So whatever happened to your craft there, it must have been some special thing. (For anyone reading this who doesn't know what I'm on about, see these posts for context: one & two.) Perhaps it was a stat "merge" we're not aware of yet.
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Shuffleblast
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If you're maybe using an HDD disk and not SSD, you might still have a chance with a recovery program...
Shuffleblast
Member
What happens if you ohm this?
Not much. The handle is made out of wood, so it's not very conductive anyway.
Sorry, couldn't help myself. :'>
But damn, good call, I didn't think of sockets at all.
The stats of items in sockets are not merged with those of the item they are in, as items in sockets are still actual items with their own stats, and those stats have their own caps. Again this is just a test craft, but this was after leaving the game the item was crafted & socketed in. These stats are correct:
(Well, except for "on striking", which is actually "on attack". Good ol' 1.07 display bugs.)
But damn, good call, I didn't think of sockets at all.
The stats of items in sockets are not merged with those of the item they are in, as items in sockets are still actual items with their own stats, and those stats have their own caps. Again this is just a test craft, but this was after leaving the game the item was crafted & socketed in. These stats are correct:
(Well, except for "on striking", which is actually "on attack". Good ol' 1.07 display bugs.)
NorthDakota
Well-known member
Sorry my dude, completely gone. SSD since long before I played 1.07. It's not an absolutely devastating loss, the main thing I'm sad about is some really sick charms. Some super nice ar/life charms especially, and damage charms. Along with some unique and sets I racked for which are no big deal really.. I guess. Racking a vamp gaze in 3400 runs notably, which I didn't need to do in the first place, is gone. I don't know what I would have liked to do with it anyways. I'm happy to have an arkaines and my next infinity base, keep a lookout for that in the loot thread it's gonna knock your eyes out when I snatch another ber.
Tatterson1
Member
Can anyone confirm if older versions of diablo 2 work in Linux? I know you can play 1.13 through Wine, but do other versions also work?
And please provide detailed information if you do get it to work.
Kinda tired of windows. Windows 7 seems like the last decent OS, and they're halting updates pretty soon.
...aaaand my bass player is a linux wizard. So I have the option to call a friend if I do decide against winX and go linux.
Kinda tired of windows. Windows 7 seems like the last decent OS, and they're halting updates pretty soon.
...aaaand my bass player is a linux wizard. So I have the option to call a friend if I do decide against winX and go linux.
Also interested in how that turns out!
But ever since I installed Windows 10 last year, my soul has been slowly dying.
So hopefully I can get used to Linux, and it would be a nice bonus if specifically Diablo II will run without problems on it.
I already have had three Windows 10 updates that caused a blue-screen after installing & rebooting. And updates keep resetting some of my settings. And there's just so much stuff you can not even disable or uninstall at all, it's ridiculous.
Same. I bought a used laptop earlier this week that should arrive tomorrow. It currently has Xubuntu installed, so I figured I'm just gonna leave it on there and give Linux a proper try. I've tried Linux (Void) in the past, but it took me hours just to install and set the basic things up (internet, firewall, installing and updating programs, etc). Had to read manual page after manual page, and ultimately just sort of gave up on it (a bad habit I have).
But ever since I installed Windows 10 last year, my soul has been slowly dying.
So hopefully I can get used to Linux, and it would be a nice bonus if specifically Diablo II will run without problems on it.I already have had three Windows 10 updates that caused a blue-screen after installing & rebooting. And updates keep resetting some of my settings. And there's just so much stuff you can not even disable or uninstall at all, it's ridiculous.
sir_cyclops
Active member
Yeah I’m comfortable on Linux. I would love to know how to run d2 with runeword mod and run counter on Linux with wine or some other utility.
@helvete brought the following up (here):
Also, in that same thread where the Diablo TC thing was mentioned, the good ol' superchest pattern thing had come up. When I was looking for information on it, I couldn't find the original source(s) of the facts. I know Jarulf at some point had mentioned the 16 bit seed thing, but I couldn't find his actual post(s) about it. And other than that, I could only find a bunch of speculation and misconclusions. Among the conclusions was "all chests except sparkly chests get a 16 bit seed", but that's not true.
A quick explanation: After being spawned, many objects are "initialized" accordingly. Think things like locking a chest, trapping a chest, checking and setting quest flags, etc. Which initialization function to run for a given object is dictated by the "initfn" column in objects.txt.
There are two initialization functions that end up giving an object a "16 bit seed", which are initfn #3 and initfn #57. Number 3 is used for a lot of objects (not just chests). Number 57 is used for sparkly chests.
Now, both of these initialization functions do a random roll of 65534, and then add 1 to the result (to prevent ending up with a seed of 0). This value then overwrites the (first) seed that was originally given by the object spawn function. The second seed is set to 666. This means that there are in fact 65534 patterns, not 65535 (the more you know, eh?). This also means that there is not really any truncation going on, nor is it really a 16 bit seed. Seeds are stored as a 32bit integers and they will get updated every time they are used, so after the first random roll that uses this seed (which is the first NoDrop roll), the seed may exceed 65535 and would no longer be "16 bit".
Well, I don't really know how interesting this information is for 1.07 because of the lack of a players command, as well as the TC limitations of this patch, but since I saw a 1.07 post about the seed thing I figured I'd mention it, just to have mentioned it.
..which was posted by @WoRG (here). Apparently GalaXyHaXz had suggested it.
Does anyone know anything about this? Or does anyone have a screenshot where a boss had dropped an item that their Normal TC is not able to drop (to confirm it)?
Also, in that same thread where the Diablo TC thing was mentioned, the good ol' superchest pattern thing had come up. When I was looking for information on it, I couldn't find the original source(s) of the facts. I know Jarulf at some point had mentioned the 16 bit seed thing, but I couldn't find his actual post(s) about it. And other than that, I could only find a bunch of speculation and misconclusions. Among the conclusions was "all chests except sparkly chests get a 16 bit seed", but that's not true.
A quick explanation: After being spawned, many objects are "initialized" accordingly. Think things like locking a chest, trapping a chest, checking and setting quest flags, etc. Which initialization function to run for a given object is dictated by the "initfn" column in objects.txt.
There are two initialization functions that end up giving an object a "16 bit seed", which are initfn #3 and initfn #57. Number 3 is used for a lot of objects (not just chests). Number 57 is used for sparkly chests.
Now, both of these initialization functions do a random roll of 65534, and then add 1 to the result (to prevent ending up with a seed of 0). This value then overwrites the (first) seed that was originally given by the object spawn function. The second seed is set to 666. This means that there are in fact 65534 patterns, not 65535 (the more you know, eh?). This also means that there is not really any truncation going on, nor is it really a 16 bit seed. Seeds are stored as a 32bit integers and they will get updated every time they are used, so after the first random roll that uses this seed (which is the first NoDrop roll), the seed may exceed 65535 and would no longer be "16 bit".
Well, I don't really know how interesting this information is for 1.07 because of the lack of a players command, as well as the TC limitations of this patch, but since I saw a 1.07 post about the seed thing I figured I'd mention it, just to have mentioned it.
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@Tatterson @maxicek @helvete
Can confirm 1.07 works without issues on Linux (or at least can work without issues). I used the no-CD from the stickies. (Haven't tried without the no-CD, so I don't know if it's necessary.)
Screenshot taken just now while running Diablo II through Wine on Xubuntu. All I had to do was install Wine, and Diablo II simply ran. I did not even have to configure anything. I have not tried windowed mode because... I don't know how.
But yeah, hopefully (if you try) it'll go as smoothly for you as it did for me.
Edit: Just a note that I did not install the game, I simply copied my folder from Windows -> USB -> Linux, and it ran.
Can confirm 1.07 works without issues on Linux (or at least can work without issues). I used the no-CD from the stickies. (Haven't tried without the no-CD, so I don't know if it's necessary.)
Screenshot taken just now while running Diablo II through Wine on Xubuntu. All I had to do was install Wine, and Diablo II simply ran. I did not even have to configure anything. I have not tried windowed mode because... I don't know how.
But yeah, hopefully (if you try) it'll go as smoothly for you as it did for me.
Edit: Just a note that I did not install the game, I simply copied my folder from Windows -> USB -> Linux, and it ran.
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Shuffleblast
Member
I've been using ubuntu for a while on my laptop and it was easier to install and get going than win7 - which is very easy by any standards already. Anyone remember win95? Goodness gracious, those were some bad times. At some point a bad directx install trash my windows folder and I had to format my (dad's) hard drive. :/
Honestly, once they stop supporting win7, I'll probably just dual boot and use win7 for games only.
