1.07 News, Info and Gossip

[WoRG1]

@Fruit @helvete I had run Diablo before and never noticed anything above TC36, so I was pretty dubious...I did try it again about 25-30 times paying close attention, and again never saw anything above TC36. I'm afraid I gave up on it pretty quickly, thinking that GalaXyHaXz had forgotten to restore his game files after monkeying with them again...

As for Duriel, I dunno, I've never ran him unless you count Hellforge rushing

@Eriklop Yes, that happens sometimes in 1.07

WoRG

 

[Fruit]

I'm afraid I gave up on it pretty quickly, thinking that GalaXyHaXz had forgotten to restore his game files after monkeying with them again...

Wouldn't be the first time. I count this a legit theory.

I didn't know about Qual giving the runes multiple times. How does it work? Can you do it repeatedly? If yes, then you could just keep on crafting Ort rune recipes until you've run out of jewels. I wouldn't mind some cheese like that!

 

[WoRG1]

No, it just occasionally (not that often) will give the rune reward twice before properly updating quest completion...I don't believe I've ever gotten it more than twice in any one difficulty though.

WoRG

 

[imakeigloospat]

I remember having 'infinite' Qual gifts on one of my rushers. I don't remember details, but I think it requires you to rush a character with a character that has not done the quest which you can receive the runes for without completing it somehow. Don't remember details, just remember I always got runes for both my rusher and the ones being rushed.

Honestly, it might not even matter if the quest is completed on the rusher, I think you might still receive the runes.

 

[zemaj]

@maxicek *

Cheers! Funny to read back those posts about crafting. I actually spent hours gathering data to figure out the formulas. And (with some pride) I can say that the formulas I had come up with actually produced the correct results. (Although it wasn't quite what the code was actually doing, heh.)

* But yeah, on Whirlwind, I can now confirm after going through the function (rather than just testing) that the "number of attacks" is simply set to however many weapons you have equipped, but other than that, nothing changes. It doesn't swap the weapon or anything. So going dual-wield basically means twice the procs from things like CB, which is a pretty good reason to go that route.


I can't say for sure what does and what does not get included from off-hand, because I know for a fact that there are some bugs going on with dual-wielding. For example I was checking dual-wield skills (Frenzy & Double Swing), and whether you attacked with main- or off-hand, the Eth rune(s) from the main hand were always applied, whether you attacked with main or with off. The Eth rune from off-hand however was never applied, even if you attacked with the weapon the rune was in! No clue if there are more stats that are bugged like that. The bug may be with Eth rune specifically for all I know. Anyway, perhaps that there are also stats that you'd expect to get included from off-hand when using Whirlwind, but aren't. Worth checking out, I think!

Edit: I don't think that CB from off-hand is applied while Whirlwinding, though! That's what my notes are saying, at least. Then again, "Cast on Attack" apparently is applied. (Or maybe that is meant to say "Cast on Striking".)

Did you happen to note anything about WSM and framerates while looking at Whirlwind? I have been limiting my options for offhand (Coldsteel Eye 'Shae' main) to hit what would be last Whirlwind attack breakpoint in modern patches, but it occurs to me this may be unnecessary... this patch can be weird.

Also, any chance of getting those notes on what does and does not work from offhand? Sorry if you have already posted it, my google-fu is weak...
I have assumed non-combat affixes (+str, +skills, MDR/PDR, resists, etc.) on offhand slot are applied, and more directly 'on hit' affixes (+%ED, -%Enemy Defense, +Min/Max Damage) are not. But some 'grey area' ones like Prevents Monster Heal would be nice to stop Council from healing each other.

 

[helvete1]

PMH only stops regen, it will not work on spell healing like teleport or act 3 healers.

 

[zemaj]

Well, so much for that clever idea...

Still, we should all compare notes and see what does and does not work, specifically for WW since that seems to be a favorite, and more generally for dual-wielding overall. As I mentioned, most non-combat modifiers are observably applied on LCS and SkillTab. PDR/MDR seem to work (hard to really observe, as I already have a bit figured into the build). Elemental damage from offhand is at least graphically applied (little flash of fire/spark of lightening/turns green on hit). Scaling +AR from Fool's on offhand weapon is NOT applied to WW on LCS. I am definitely going to look at it more after RFL, but atm I feel I should finish that before exploring the rabbits hole...


Related to topic of dual-wielding, has anyone had much time on an Assassin in 1.07? I have a kicker somewhere in late Norm/early NM and a BF build in mid NM that got backburnered... a couple years ago ... I seem to recall @pharphis talking about one at some point. @maxicek you're our resident Assassin expert, ever try it 1.07?

 

[pharphis]

I never used one, except to dump points into burst of speed and throw on tons of frw gear for fun. I thought it might be ok at rack running or popping objects in A5 but meh

 

[ilumivari]

Jala's is a totemic mask and it can drop from racks in hell lower kurast.... right?

It's a totemic helm right... please kill me now.

 

[WoRG1]

Well damn...I'm glad you asked, made me look at it more closely...

Jalal's is a totemic mask, it can drop in hell LK, and as it's a class-specific, the odds are 1/500 instead of 1/1000

I thought it could drop in nightmare LK...but it's qlvl55, and nightmare LK is alvl55, so racks drop ilvl54...no wonder I haven't gotten one in over 2000 runs!

WoRG

 

[Fruit]

@WoRG
I have Totemic Mask at qlvl43 for 1.07, and qlvl 55 for 1.08. Did you open up the wrong file? Or did I?
Jalal's Mane's level is 50 so that should be able to drop in LK on Nightmare.

 

[WoRG1]

Hmmm...my txt file for 1.07 uniques says qlvl55, but I have no idea where I got the info from...completely possible it was from an incorrect source. I assume you got qlvl50 from looking at the game files? I'll update my file...

I guess its good to know I wasn't completely wasting my efforts, just very unlucky...

I've been hoping council will drop it while I'm running them for RFL rnd 2, so far no luck...did get a Lycander's Aim though, that was nice!

WoRG

 

[Fruit]

@WoRG
Yip. For 1.07 I have level 43 for the Totemic Mask base, and level 50 for the unique Jalal's Mane.

And yip, everything from the files, and more or less automated by linking x and y with the item code, that way there is very little room for human error. I started with uniqueitems.txt and cross-referenced the item code (of the base) with armor.txt and weapons.txt, then used the English language files to cross-reference the unique & base names to end up with a list without any errors (assuming I didn't mess up). Really just some copy-pasting and sorting.

Haha, Lycander's Aim, interesting bow. Though I remember a certain GMB craft of yours that I don't think will be beaten by something like that.


Also, the odds for unique are 1/400 for Exceptional & Elite class-items. (Or 1/399, can't remember if the thing -1 applied here.)


Edit: @WoRG The 1.07 list you posted (here) does say level 43 for Totemic Mask. I posted a 1.08 list (here), did you save that list as 1.07?

 

[WoRG1]

Yeah, I knew the qlvl was 43 for Totemic Mask, it was just my 1.07 uniques txt file was wrong...a correct version would be awesome, mind sharing?

Yeah, Lycander's Aim was just a 1.07 grailer, as is Jalal's (though I actually want to use Jalal's) I still need the other Lycander's and Bartuc's Chop Chop, too...

Hmmm, my notes said it was 1/(500/110/95) for normal/exceptional class-item unique/rare/set and 1/(400/100/90) for elite class-item unique/rare/set (I dunno about the -1 thing)

WoRG

 

[helvete1]

Storm Touch
Heavy Gloves
Defense: 5
Durability: 11 of 14
Required Level: 84
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x4eae48e1
+2 to Dexterity
Fire Resist +11%
5% Life stolen per hit
Replenish Life +4
10% Chance of Crushing Blow

+life affix missing completely. Higher leech than just the preset affix, but can't account for the missing life.

 

[Fruit]

@WoRG
Correction! The ( base - 1 ) applies only to miscellaneous items, like Rings and Amulets.
For any non-miscellaneous items, it does ( base - ( ilvl - qlvl ) ), with ( ilvl - qlvl ) having a minimum of 1. So for a Totemic Mask in Nightmare LK it ends up doing 400 - ( 54 - 43 ) = 389. On Hell it would be 400 - ( 87 - 43 ) = 356. So even though finding a stable Totemic Mask rack might take longer on Hell because more items are possible to be included in the random roll, the chance for a unique every time you pop the rack will be higher there.

And yes, the base value is 400 in this case because both Exceptional & Elite bases use the "uber" column from itemratio.txt.

So this means that the chance is never exactly 1 / ( base_value ) while racking. The worst odds for uniques would be 1/999, but it will usually be slightly better because the level of most bases is less than ( area_level - 2 ). For reference, a Balrog Skin is level 77, so on Hell LK it'll do 1000 - ( 87 - 77 ) = 990.

No offense to your notes, but hey..



As for Jalal's, I assume you want the Crushing Blow. Personally I'd be worried about the goddamn knockback on it. Also, Fury has some nasty de-sync issues, and from a glance it looked like Attack Speed is as good as useless. Server-side it seems to work fine, but client-side the calculations are messed up. Either Attack Speed isn't applied at all there, or the calculation is just broken. I've been wanting to make a shapeshifter for a while in 1.07, but I would probably skip Fury myself. So I had my eye on Maul, but I'm not really a fan of that charge-mechanic. Visually you also can't really tell which charge-level you're at, and the skill description doesn't seem to mention the maximum charge level at all. Real nice.



Here's a quick and dirty 1.07 unique list. I didn't know how to format/sort it so it more or less follows how they are listed in uniqueitems.txt. I wouldn't mind sorting it another way, just let me know. Ctrl+F is your friend until then. Rings and Amulets are at the bottom, they're all blvl 1 of course.

blvl                       ulvl                             rlvl

   3  Hand Axe                7  The Gnasher                   5
   7  Axe                    12  Deathspade                    9
  13  Double Axe             20  Bladebone                    15
  19  Military Pick          28  Skull Splitter               21
  25  War Axe                36  Rakescar                     27
   6  Large Axe              11  Axe of Fechmar                8
  12  Broad Axe              19  Goreshovel                   14
  17  Battle Axe             26  The Chieftain                19
  23  Great Axe              34  Brainhew                     25
  27  Giant Axe              39  Humongous                    29
   2  Wand                    7  Torch of Iro                  5
  12  Yew Wand               19  Maelstrom                    14
  18  Bone Wand              27  Gravenspine                  20
  26  Grim Wand              38  Ume's Lament                 28
   1  Club                    4  Felloak                       3
   3  Scepter                 7  Knell Striker                 5
  15  Grand Scepter          23  Rusthandle                   17
  21  War Scepter            31  Stormeye                     23
   4  Spiked Club             7  Stoutnail                     5
   8  Mace                   12  Crushflange                   9
  13  Morning Star           20  Bloodrise                    15
  19  Flail                  28  The General's Tan Do Li Ga   21
  25  War Hammer             36  Ironstone                    27
  21  Maul                   32  Bonesnap                     24
  32  Great Maul             39  Steeldriver                  29
   1  Short Sword             3  Rixot's Keen                  2
   5  Scimitar               10  Blood Crescent                7
   8  Sabre                  14  Skewer of Krintiz            10
  11  Falchion               18  Gleamscythe                  13
  11  Crystal Sword          18  Azurewrath                   13
  15  Broad Sword            23  Griswold's Edge              17
  20  Long Sword             30  Hellplague                   22
  27  War Sword              39  Culwen's Point               29
  10  Two-Handed Sword       16  Shadowfang                   12
  17  Claymore               26  Soulflay                     19
  21  Giant Sword            31  Kinemil's Awl                23
  24  Bastard Sword          35  Blacktongue                  26
  27  Flamberge              35  Ripsaw                       26
  33  Great Sword            39  The Patriarch                29
   3  Dagger                  6  Gull                          4
   9  Dirk                   15  The Diggler                  11
  17  Kris                   26  The Jade Tan Do              19
  23  Blade                  34  Spectral Shard               25
   5  Spear                  11  The Dragon Chang              8
   9  Trident                16  Razortine                    12
  16  Brandistock            23  Bloodthief                   17
  20  Spetum                 30  Lance of Yaggai              22
  24  Pike                   36  The Tannr Gorerod            27
   5  Bardiche               11  Dimoak's Hew                  8
  11  Voulge                 19  Steelgoad                    14
  15  Scythe                 26  Soul Harvest                 19
  21  Poleaxe                34  The Battlebranch             25
  29  Halberd                38  Woestave                     28
  34  War Scythe             39  The Grim Reaper              29
   1  Short Staff             7  Bane Ash                      5
   8  Long Staff             12  Serpent Lord                  9
  12  Gnarled Staff          24  Spire of Lazarus             18
  17  Battle Staff           28  The Salamander               21
  24  War Staff              38  The Iron Jang Bong           28
   1  Short Bow              10  Pluckeye                      7
   5  Hunter's Bow           18  Witherstring                 13
   8  Long Bow               20  Raven Claw                   15
  12  Composite Bow          27  Rogue's Bow                  20
  18  Short Battle Bow       34  Stormstrike                  25
  23  Long Battle Bow        35  Wizendraw                    26
  27  Short War Bow          36  Hellclap                     27
  31  Long War Bow           38  Blastbark                    28
   6  Light Crossbow         12  Leadcrow                      9
  15  Crossbow               24  Ichorsting                   18
  24  Heavy Crossbow         36  Hellcast                     27
  33  Repeating Crossbow     38  Doomslinger                  28
   1  Cap                     4  Biggin's Bonnet               3
   5  Skull Cap              20  Tarnhelm                     15
  11  Helm                   19  Coif of Glory                14
  15  Full Helm              23  Duskdeep                     17
  22  Bone Helm              28  Wormskull                    21
  23  Great Helm             34  Howltusk                     25
  29  Crown                  39  Undead Crown                 29
  19  Mask                   27  The Face of Horror           20
   1  Quilted Armor          10  Greyform                      7
   3  Leather Armor          16  Blinkbat's Form              12
   5  Hard Leather Armor     19  The Centurion                14
   8  Studded Leather        22  Twitchthroe                  16
  11  Ring Mail              19  Darkglow                     14
  13  Scale Mail             20  Hawkmail                     15
  15  Chain Mail             23  Sparking Mail                17
  18  Breast Plate           27  Venom Ward                   20
  20  Splint Mail            30  Iceblink                     22
  24  Plate Mail             35  Boneflesh                    26
  28  Field Plate            38  Rockfleece                   28
  32  Gothic Plate           39  Rattlecage                   29
  37  Full Plate Mail        38  Goldskin                     28
  40  Ancient Armor          38  Silks of the Victor          28
  35  Light Plate            39  Heavenly Garb                29
   1  Buckler                 3  Pelta Lunata                  2
   5  Small Shield           12  Umbral Disk                   9
  11  Large Shield           18  Stormguild                   13
  19  Bone Shield            27  Wall of the Eyeless          20
  11  Spiked Shield          20  Swordback Hold               15
  15  Kite Shield            23  Steelclash                   17
  22  Tower Shield           26  Bverrit Keep                 19
  30  Gothic Shield          35  The Ward                     26
   3  Leather Gloves          7  The Hand of Broc              5
   7  Heavy Gloves           12  Bloodfist                     9
  12  Chain Gloves           20  Chance Guards                15
  20  Light Gauntlets        31  Magefist                     23
  27  Gauntlets              39  Frostburn                    29
   3  Boots                   7  Hotspur                       5
   7  Heavy Boots            12  Gorefoot                      9
  12  Chain Boots            20  Treads of Cthon              15
  20  Light Plated Boots     30  Goblin Toe                   22
  27  Greaves                39  Tearhaunch                   29
   3  Sash                   10  Lenymo                        7
   7  Light Belt             16  Snakecord                    12
  12  Belt                   27  Nightsmoke                   20
  20  Heavy Belt             36  Goldwrap                     27
  27  Plated Belt            39  Bladebuckle                  29
  31  Hatchet                44  Coldkill                     36
  34  Cleaver                47  Butcher's Pupil              39
  39  Twin Axe               51  Islestrike                   43
  43  Crowbill               53  Pompeii's Wrath              45
  48  Naga                   56  Guardian Naga                48
  34  Military Axe           43  Warlord's Trust              35
  38  Bearded Axe            47  Spellsteel                   39
  42  Tabar                  49  Stormrider                   41
  46  Gothic Axe             50  Boneslayer Blade             42
  51  Ancient Axe            53  The Minotaur                 45
  31  Burnt Wand             41  Suicide Branch               33
  38  Petrified Wand         43  Carin Shard                  35
  43  Tomb Wand              44  Arm of King Leoric           36
  49  Grave Wand             49  Blackhand Key                41
  30  Cudgel                 42  Dark Clan Crusher            34
  31  Rune Scepter           45  Zakarum's Hand               37
  40  Holy Water Sprinkler   46  The Fetid Sprinkler          38
  45  Divine Scepter         50  Hand of Blessed Light        42
  32  Barbed Club            46  Fleshrender                  38
  35  Flanged Mace           47  Sureshrill Frost             39
  39  Jagged Star            50  Moonfall                     42
  43  Knout                  53  Baezil's Vortex              45
  48  Battle Hammer          51  Earthshaker                  43
  45  War Club               56  Bloodtree Stump              48
  53  Martel de Fer          53  The Gavel of Pain            45
  30  Gladius                38  Bloodletter                  30
  43  Cutlass                39  Coldsteel Eye                31
  35  Shamshir               41  Hexfire                      33
  37  Tulwar                 43  Blade of Ali Baba            35
  37  Dimensional Blade      45  Ginther's Rift               37
  40  Battle Sword           47  Headstriker                  39
  44  Rune Sword             49  Plague Bearer                41
  49  Ancient Sword          50  The Atlantean                42
  37  Espandon               50  Crainte Vomir                42
  42  Dacian Falx            51  Bing Sz Wang                 43
  45  Tusk Sword             52  The Vile Husk                44
  48  Gothic Sword           53  Cloudcrack                   45
  49  Zweihander             54  Todesfaelle Flamme           46
  54  Executioner Sword      55  Swordguard                   48
  31  Poignard               40  Spineripper                  32
  36  Rondel                 44  Heart Carver                 36
  42  Cinquedeas             46  Blackbog's Sharp             38
  46  Stiletto               49  Stormspike                   41
  33  War Spear              39  The Impaler                  31
  36  Fuscina                41  Kelpie Snare                 33
  41  War Fork               43  Soulfeast Tine               35
  44  Yari                   45  Hone Sundan                  37
  47  Lance                  47  Spire of Honor               39
  33  Lochaber Axe           49  The Meat Scraper             41
  37  Bill                   50  Blackleach Blade             42
  40  Battle Scythe          50  Athena's Wrath               42
  35  Partizan               51  Pierre Tombale Couant        43
  51  Bec-de-Corbin          52  Husoldal Evo                 44
  55  Grim Scythe            52  Grim's Burning Dead          45
  30  Jo Staff               36  Razorswitch                  28
  35  Quarterstaff           39  Ribcracker                   31
  38  Cedar Staff            43  Chromatic Ire                35
  42  Gothic Staff           47  Warpspear                    39
  47  Rune Staff             49  Skull Collector              41
  30  Edge Bow               36  Skystrike                    28
  33  Razor Bow              39  Riphook                      31
  35  Cedar Bow              41  Kuko Shakaku                 33
  39  Double Bow             44  Endlesshail                  36
  43  Short Siege Bow        47  Whichwild String             39
  46  Large Siege Bow        49  Cliffkiller                  41
  49  Rune Bow               51  Magewrath                    43
  52  Gothic Bow             54  Goldstrike Arch              46
  34  Arbalest               40  Langer Briser                32
  40  Siege Crossbow         44  Pus Spitter                  36
  47  Ballista               49  Buriza-Do Kyanon             41
  54  Chu-Ko-Nu              57  Demon Machine                49
  34  War Hat                36  Peasant Crown                28
  37  Sallet                 39  Rockstopper                  31
  42  Casque                 43  Stealskull                   35
  45  Basinet                46  Darksight Helm               38
  51  Winged Helm            52  Valkyrie Wing                44
  55  Grand Crown            57  Crown of Thieves             49
  48  Death Mask             49  Blackhorn's Face             41
  50  Grim Helm              49  Vampire Gaze                 41
  34  Ghost Armor            36  The Spirit Shroud            28
  36  Serpentskin Armor      37  Skin of the Vipermagi        29
  37  Demonhide Armor        39  Skin of the Flayed One       31
  40  Trellised Armor        41  Iron Pelt                    33
  42  Linked Mail            43  Spirit Forge                 35
  43  Tigulated Mail         45  Crow Caw                     37
  45  Mesh Armor             46  Shaftstop                    38
  47  Cuirass                49  Duriel's Shell               41
  49  Russet Armor           50  Skullder's Ire               42
  52  Templar Coat           53  Guardian Angel               45
  55  Sharktooth Armor       56  Toothrow                     48
  58  Embossed Plate         59  Atma's Wail                  51
  61  Chaos Armor            61  Black Hades                  53
  64  Ornate Plate           63  Corpsemourn                  55
  60  Mage Plate             59  Que-Hegan's Wisdom           51
  34  Defender               36  Visceratuant                 28
  37  Round Shield           39  Moser's Blessed Circle       31
  42  Scutum                 43  Stormchaser                  35
  45  Dragon Shield          46  Tiamat's Rebuke              38
  50  Pavise                 52  Gerke's Sanctuary            44
  56  Ancient Shield         58  Radament's Sphere            50
  48  Grim Shield            49  Lidless Wall                 41
  42  Barbed Shield          43  Lance Guard                  35
  36  Demonhide Gloves       37  Venom Grip                   29
  39  Sharkskin Gloves       39  Gravepalm                    32
  43  Heavy Bracers          44  Ghoulhide                    36
  49  Battle Gauntlets       50  Lava Gout                    42
  54  War Gauntlets          55  Hellmouth                    47
  36  Demonhide Boots        27  Infernostride                29
  39  Sharkskin Boots        40  Waterwalk                    32
  43  Mesh Boots             44  Silkweave                    36
  49  Battle Boots           50  War Traveler                 42
  54  War Boots              55  Gore Rider                   47
  36  Demonhide Sash         37  String of Ears               29
  39  Sharkskin Belt         39  Razortail                    32
  43  Mesh Belt              45  Gloom's Trap                 36
  49  Battle Belt            49  Snowclash                    42
  54  War Belt               55  Thundergod's Vigor           47
  65  Shako                  69  Harlequin Crest              62
  78  Spired Helm            77  Veil of Steel                73
  70  Wire Fleece            85  The Gladiator's Bane         85
  77  Balrog Skin            85  Arkaine's Valor              85
  68  Luna                   67  Blackoak Shield              61
  78  Aegis                  77  Stormshield                  73
  67  Decapitator            71  Hellslayer                   67
  70  Champion Axe           75  Messerschmidt's Reaver       70
  64  Devil Star             70  Baranar's Star               65
  71  Legendary Mallet       83  Schaefer's Hammer            79
  75  Thunder Maul           91  The Cranium Basher           87
  61  Elegant Blade          66  Lightsabre                   61
  71  Champion Sword         75  Doombringer                  71
  76  Colossus Blade         85  The Grandfather              81
  58  Bone Knife             69  Wizardspike                  61
  70  Archon Staff           78  Stormspire                   70
  70  Crusader Bow           77  Eaglehorn                    70
  74  Hydra Bow              80  Windforce                    74
  43  Slayer Guard           50  Arreat's Face                42
  43  Hierophant Trophy      50  Homunculus                   42
  43  Ceremonial Javelin     50  Titan's Revenge              42
  43  Ceremonial Bow         50  Lycander's Aim               42
  43  Ceremonial Pike        50  Lycander's Flank             42
  43  Swirling Crystal       50  The Oculus                   42
  40  Gilded Shield          50  Herald of Zakarum            42
  41  Greater Talons         50  Bartuc's Chop Chop           42
  43  Totemic Mask           50  Jalal's Mane                 42
  69  Vampirefang Belt           Nosferatu's Coil             61

                             10  Nagelring                     7
                             20  Manald Heal                  15
                             39  The Stone of Jordan          29
                             66  Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band     58
                             53  Dwarf Star                   45
                             53  Raven Frost                  45
                      
                             14  Nokozan Relic                10
                             20  The Eye of Etlich            15
                             34  The Mahim-Oak Curio          25
                             58  The Cat's Eye                50
                             73  The Rising Sun               65
                             58  Crescent Moon                50
                             80  Mara's Kaleidoscope          67
                             60  Atma's Scarab                60
                             73  Highlord's Wrath             65
                             55  Saracen's Chance             47

 

[zemaj]

@Fruit
I didn't directly tag you above but did you have any info on that (particularly the WW WSM part)? Not to be a nuisance, but its pertinent to current RFL round and you have replied to thread a few times since and not mentioned it....

 

[Fruit]

@zemaj
Crap, sorry about that! I had written a reply, but somehow I was logged out while typing up the post, so when I clicked Post Reply, I got greeted by the login screen. Then when I logged back in, my post was gone! Not sure what went wrong, whether it's my settings, my browser, or whatever. The plan was to type up a new post later, but I simply forgot.


For Whirlwind attack speed, you only have to worry about the weapon that's used to attack with, which should be slot I in your inventory. The inherent weapon speed, as well as any IAS from off-hand are not included (so there is no averaging of weapon speeds). The weapon speed bug also does not apply to 1.07 Whirlwind, so lifting the weapon from slot I and putting it back will not mess with the attack speed.

So yeah, slot II is basically just a stat stick. The only exception that I can think of (I think @helvete mentioned this a good while back) is when slot I needs the +dex or +str provided by the weapon in slot II, then slot II will in fact be the weapon you'll use to attack with. (You can see that the weapon from slot II remains in the right hand of your character, while normally it'll be put in the left hand.)



As for which stats are (not) applied from off-hand, I don't have a complete list yet. The general idea is if the stat is attack-related, then it is excluded. But as we know there are some exceptions, so we/I will have to look closer.

Elemental damage from offhand is at least graphically applied (little flash of fire/spark of lightening/turns green on hit).

That's interesting! And certainly proves that it's not so straight-forward as "no attack-related stats", assuming it's not just graphical.

I'll take a look for sure, but can't make a promise on when. Most likely before the weekend has ended.

 

[zemaj]

So, this was interesting, not for use, but as a novelty...

Storm Song
War Scepter
One-Hand Damage:  20 to 35
Durability:  55 of 70
Required Strength:  55
Required Level:  30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version:  Expansion
Item Level:  99
Fingerprint:  0xa057faa
+2 to Mana
+108% Enhanced Damage
+301 to Attack Rating
Attacker Takes Damage of 9
+1 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+2 to Conviction (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead
Level 5 Ice Blast (11/32 Charges)
Level 8 Frost Nova (4/5 Charges)

A total one-off, as it was the wrong base (had a Caduceus in stash for crafting, and picked up a War Scepter for some reason...) AND the wrong gem (not sure what happened there) so this thing is just all kinds of 'Oops!'...

 

[maxicek]

So I'm just reading up on crafting so I can get my ingredients ready for Trav.
If I'm not missing something, Eth, Tal, Ral, Thul and Amn have no use in 1.07?

I plan on keeping some bases on character, so I am ready in case something drops. Mainly Blood recepies & Runic Talons. How is everyone else managing this?