Careful is a good discription of the battle. I did not even try Warcry because I was afraid of being caught too close to Diablo. I just used Witchwild String from a distance and tried to put Durga into close proximity hoping he would do some damage. He did.
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TheBoss has killed Diablo on P1. I guess I finally found out how to use the hot key for Town Portal. There were three bone prisons and Diablo never could take advantage of them
Five items were found in Act IV. Lycander's Aim Ceremonial Bow was the best item, but of course TheBoss can only place it on a shelf and admire it. Another good item was "Plague Bearer" unique rune sword. TheBoss could use that if he had not taken up singing, but alas, he has missed too many sword lessons and will put that one on the shelf too. The other three new items are Soul Harvest, Civerb's Ward and Arctic Binding.
Here is a stat review at the end of NM ACT IV:
Level 66
STR 89 DEX 83 VIT 205 Energy 103
Damage: 317-556 with Witchwild String 537-572 with WarCry
Def: 907 STAM:337 LIFE: 1042 MANA: 289
FR 75 (81 actual) CR 75 (86 actual) LR 75 (85 actual) PR 75 (75 actual)
Magic Find: 75
Here is a list of what he has found so far:
Sandar's Riprap (worn)
Nightsmoke unique Mesh belt (worn)
Frostburn Unique Gauntlets (worn)
Witchwild String (used by TheBoss)
Milabrega's Orb Kite Shield (used by TheBoss in the offhand)
The Jade Tan Do (Used by TheBoss in the offhand)
Cathan's Visage (worn) (socketed by Larzuk and holding a perfect Topaz)
Cathan's Seal Ring (worn)
Spirit Forge Linked Mail (worn)
The Meat Scraper (used by merc)
Isenhart's Case (worn by merc)
Undead Crown (worn by merc)
"STILL NO AMULET"
Fifty more items not used are: Angelic Mantle, Angelic Sickle, Two Arctic Bindings, Berserker's Headgear, two Bladebones, Cathan's Mesh, two Civerb's Cudgels, Two Civerb's Wards, Cleglaw's Pincers, Cleglaw's Tooth, Death's Touch, DeathSpade, Flesh Render, Two Gleamscythes, Gorefoot, GravenSpine, Hellclap, HowlTusk, Hsarus's Iron Heel, Humongus, Hwanin's Justice, Ironstone, Two more Isenhart's Cases, Isenhart's Lightbrand, Leadcrow, Lycander's Aim, Magefist, Magnus Skin, another Milabrega's Orb, Plague Bearer, Razortail, two Razortines, Rip Hook, Rusthandle, Sandar's Taboo, Serpent Lord, Shadowfang, Sigon's Gage, Soul Harvest, StormStrike, Tancred's Crowbill, The Battlebranch, The Hand of Broc, The Patriarch, Vidala's Fetlock Warlord's Trust, another Witchwild String, Woestave
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Five items were found in Act IV. Lycander's Aim Ceremonial Bow was the best item, but of course TheBoss can only place it on a shelf and admire it. Another good item was "Plague Bearer" unique rune sword. TheBoss could use that if he had not taken up singing, but alas, he has missed too many sword lessons and will put that one on the shelf too. The other three new items are Soul Harvest, Civerb's Ward and Arctic Binding.
Here is a stat review at the end of NM ACT IV:
Level 66
STR 89 DEX 83 VIT 205 Energy 103
Damage: 317-556 with Witchwild String 537-572 with WarCry
Def: 907 STAM:337 LIFE: 1042 MANA: 289
FR 75 (81 actual) CR 75 (86 actual) LR 75 (85 actual) PR 75 (75 actual)
Magic Find: 75
Here is a list of what he has found so far:
Sandar's Riprap (worn)
Nightsmoke unique Mesh belt (worn)
Frostburn Unique Gauntlets (worn)
Witchwild String (used by TheBoss)
Milabrega's Orb Kite Shield (used by TheBoss in the offhand)
The Jade Tan Do (Used by TheBoss in the offhand)
Cathan's Visage (worn) (socketed by Larzuk and holding a perfect Topaz)
Cathan's Seal Ring (worn)
Spirit Forge Linked Mail (worn)
The Meat Scraper (used by merc)
Isenhart's Case (worn by merc)
Undead Crown (worn by merc)
"STILL NO AMULET"
Fifty more items not used are: Angelic Mantle, Angelic Sickle, Two Arctic Bindings, Berserker's Headgear, two Bladebones, Cathan's Mesh, two Civerb's Cudgels, Two Civerb's Wards, Cleglaw's Pincers, Cleglaw's Tooth, Death's Touch, DeathSpade, Flesh Render, Two Gleamscythes, Gorefoot, GravenSpine, Hellclap, HowlTusk, Hsarus's Iron Heel, Humongus, Hwanin's Justice, Ironstone, Two more Isenhart's Cases, Isenhart's Lightbrand, Leadcrow, Lycander's Aim, Magefist, Magnus Skin, another Milabrega's Orb, Plague Bearer, Razortail, two Razortines, Rip Hook, Rusthandle, Sandar's Taboo, Serpent Lord, Shadowfang, Sigon's Gage, Soul Harvest, StormStrike, Tancred's Crowbill, The Battlebranch, The Hand of Broc, The Patriarch, Vidala's Fetlock Warlord's Trust, another Witchwild String, Woestave
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jiansonz Viridissima Amazon Valkyrie/CS 87 154 Guardian #1
Grisu Oberon Druid Fire Claws 86 124 Hell Act IV RoF
PhineasB Quinta Amazon Valk/Passive/? 83 120 Guardian #2
jiansonz Mirex Paladin FoH/Conviction 74 86 NM Cows
OldSoldier AndrewNiteTorch Paladin Charge 77 76 Hell Act II Lut Gholein
Wolron TheBoss Barbarian Singer 66 67 NM Act V Harrogath
zoo Alexander Paladin Holy Shock 48 51 NM Act I Rogue Camp
Wolron TheBoss Barbarian Singer 63 62 NM Act IV Panda Fortress
OldSoldier Brigid_Crane Sorceress Balls of Fire 53 ?? NM Act II Lut Gholein
Dezrok Roland Paladin Avenger 52 40 NM Act II Lut Gholein
Dazliare Pestilence Druid Rabies 35? >2 Act V Harrogath
ioupainmax Habacalva Sorceress Melee Enchantress 32 15 Act IV Pand. Fortress
Drystan Goldilocks Amazon ?? 32 12 Act IV Panda Fortress
Logoutzero Bruin Druid Summoner 28 10 Act III Kurast Docks
Southpaw8668 Velak Necromancer Poison/CE/CG 26 8 Act II Lut Gholein
Jocular GodKnowsWho Assassin Dragontail ?? 3 Act II Lut Gholein
GothamsBeard Envy Amazon Elemental Bowzon ?? ??? Act II Lut Gholein
hackedagainanda Conrad Paladin Frost Zealot ?? ??? Act II Lut Gholein
RedTang PaniSuka Sorceress FO/Lightning ?? ??? Act I Outer Cloister
Oakbrain Olyssia Assassin Lightning Trapsin 18 0 Act I Outer Cloister
TwentyMuleTeam TwoHearted Druid Fury 13 0 Act 1 Underground Passage
jamesixgun Bethany Sorceress ChargedBolt/FOrb 13 1 Act 1 Dark Wood
Docturnal Kody Druid Hunger/??? 12 0 Act 1 Stony Field
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Southpaw8668 Wuzhul Necromancer Skelliemancer 67 ??? NM Act IV Chaos Sanctuary
Wolron HotBones Necromancer Fire Golem/BSpear 65 81 NM Act IV de Seis
Wolron Pam Amazon Bowzon 67 78 NM Act IV Diablo
Wolron ShadowLurker Assassin Trapper 63 60 NM Act IV Diablo
Wolron Persephone Sorceress Frozen Orb 58 41 NM Act II T.Rasha's tombs
Charlo KulKanta Druid Ele-Summoner 59 28 NM Act III Kurast Sewers
zoo BorisTheBlade Paladin Holy Shock 56 33 NM Act II Ancient Tunnels
Oakbrain Jathnolf Barbarian Berserk/War Cry 54 ??? NM Act II Far Oasis
zoo Jens-Rune Barbarian Whirlwind 51 27 NM Act I Tamoe Highland
Wolron Durbanex Druid Summoner 49 25 NM Act I Dark Tower
LacertaCK Haramis Sorceress Meteorb 49 28 NM Act I The Hole (MSLE)
Skunkbelly NewestSkunk Sorceress FO/FB 34 16 Act IV Diablo
kstuart Chocopower Necromancer Fishymancer 34 9 Act IV Diablo
Charlo Talameer Paladin Thornadin 32 5+ Act IV Diablo
Charlo Meroca Necro Skelli/Poison 30 9 Act IV River Of Flame
Wolron Paul Paladin FOH 27 6 Act II Tal Rasha TombTheBoss is reminiscing with Malah for the second time. It will probably be the last time. Just getting into Hell difficulty is his objective.
Looking at the Martyr list, I see that no one has died yet in NM Act V. That is good news and I hope to contine the record. I also see that no other Barbarian has lasted this long. I hope that is not an omen. I intend to follow Southpaw8668's advice and "be careful out there". No rash actions and a lot of patience.
Looking at the Martyr list, I see that no one has died yet in NM Act V. That is good news and I hope to contine the record. I also see that no other Barbarian has lasted this long. I hope that is not an omen. I intend to follow Southpaw8668's advice and "be careful out there". No rash actions and a lot of patience.
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CE: Cold Enchanted.
LE: Lightning Enchanted.
When a monster spawns with both of these, each time it is put into hit recovery, it sends out an invisible death Frost Nova and/or the Charged Bolts have the death nova damage added (not sure on the exact mechanics anymore)
Warcry, even if it doesnt successfully stun, automatically puts monsters into hit recovery. I've had singers with good resistances and good life get killed by this, you won't even see anything happen, your life will just drop.
LE: Lightning Enchanted.
When a monster spawns with both of these, each time it is put into hit recovery, it sends out an invisible death Frost Nova and/or the Charged Bolts have the death nova damage added (not sure on the exact mechanics anymore)
Warcry, even if it doesnt successfully stun, automatically puts monsters into hit recovery. I've had singers with good resistances and good life get killed by this, you won't even see anything happen, your life will just drop.
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Well done getting past NM Diablo, and good luck in the areas ahead.
(Another way to handle Diablo's Bone Prisons as a Barbarian is to Leap Attack out of them (I usually invest the two points needed to get this skill, for better mobility and more options). With Shift-clicking, you don't need to jump to Diablo either.
My Paladin got past Act V NM, but he's scared of the cow level. I'm thinking of starting as low as /players 3 there, to have a better chance to clear out a decently large area to flee to, if needed. Timely Conversions will probably be important. I practiced a bit with Conversion in the last act, especially against large mobs of skeletons that my merc Emilio can't leech from. It can still get messy, though.
(Another way to handle Diablo's Bone Prisons as a Barbarian is to Leap Attack out of them (I usually invest the two points needed to get this skill, for better mobility and more options). With Shift-clicking, you don't need to jump to Diablo either.
My Paladin got past Act V NM, but he's scared of the cow level. I'm thinking of starting as low as /players 3 there, to have a better chance to clear out a decently large area to flee to, if needed. Timely Conversions will probably be important. I practiced a bit with Conversion in the last act, especially against large mobs of skeletons that my merc Emilio can't leech from. It can still get messy, though.
TheBoss rescued Anya, cleared out most of the Glacial Trail and then went after Nilathak. I decided to just go for the Halls of Vought rather than clear Anguish and Pain. I managed to remember the most typical layouts and got down there in about ten minutes. Then I tried one of the four areas and sure enough, Nilathak was in that one. TheBoss managed to kill him rather easily, though the Tomb Vipers were a bit of a scare.
The question then was: Should I clear out the other areas before going on to the Frozen Tundra? Sure... Why not? The answer to that question was.... Tomb Vipers can be a pain and can be the death of TheBoss, which they were. His final SU count is 70.
Three items were found in Act V. Nothing exciting, just HellCast, Sandar's Taboo and another Isenhart's Case.
Here is a list of items at the end:
Sandar's Riprap (worn)
Nightsmoke unique Mesh belt (worn)
Frostburn Unique Gauntlets (worn)
Witchwild String (used by TheBoss)
Milabrega's Orb Kite Shield (used by TheBoss in the offhand)
The Jade Tan Do (Used by TheBoss in the offhand)
Cathan's Visage (worn) (socketed by Larzuk and holding a perfect Topaz)
Cathan's Seal Ring (worn)
Spirit Forge Linked Mail (worn)
The Meat Scraper (used by merc)
Isenhart's Case (worn by merc)
Undead Crown (worn by merc)
"STILL NO AMULET"
Fifty-three more items not used are: Angelic Mantle, Angelic Sickle, Two Arctic Bindings, Berserker's Headgear, two Bladebones, Cathan's Mesh, two Civerb's Cudgels, Two Civerb's Wards, Cleglaw's Pincers, Cleglaw's Tooth, Death's Touch, DeathSpade, Flesh Render, Two Gleamscythes, Gorefoot, GravenSpine, HellCast, Hellclap, HowlTusk, Hsarus's Iron Heel, Humongus, Hwanin's Justice, Ironstone, Three more Isenhart's Cases, Isenhart's Lightbrand, Leadcrow, Lycander's Aim, Magefist, Magnus Skin, another Milabrega's Orb, Plague Bearer, Razortail, two Razortines, Rip Hook, Rusthandle, two Sandar's Taboos, Serpent Lord, Shadowfang, Sigon's Gage, Soul Harvest, StormStrike, Tancred's Crowbill, The Battlebranch, The Hand of Broc, The Patriarch, Vidala's Fetlock Warlord's Trust, another Witchwild String, Woestave
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The question then was: Should I clear out the other areas before going on to the Frozen Tundra? Sure... Why not? The answer to that question was.... Tomb Vipers can be a pain and can be the death of TheBoss, which they were. His final SU count is 70.
Three items were found in Act V. Nothing exciting, just HellCast, Sandar's Taboo and another Isenhart's Case.
Here is a list of items at the end:
Sandar's Riprap (worn)
Nightsmoke unique Mesh belt (worn)
Frostburn Unique Gauntlets (worn)
Witchwild String (used by TheBoss)
Milabrega's Orb Kite Shield (used by TheBoss in the offhand)
The Jade Tan Do (Used by TheBoss in the offhand)
Cathan's Visage (worn) (socketed by Larzuk and holding a perfect Topaz)
Cathan's Seal Ring (worn)
Spirit Forge Linked Mail (worn)
The Meat Scraper (used by merc)
Isenhart's Case (worn by merc)
Undead Crown (worn by merc)
"STILL NO AMULET"
Fifty-three more items not used are: Angelic Mantle, Angelic Sickle, Two Arctic Bindings, Berserker's Headgear, two Bladebones, Cathan's Mesh, two Civerb's Cudgels, Two Civerb's Wards, Cleglaw's Pincers, Cleglaw's Tooth, Death's Touch, DeathSpade, Flesh Render, Two Gleamscythes, Gorefoot, GravenSpine, HellCast, Hellclap, HowlTusk, Hsarus's Iron Heel, Humongus, Hwanin's Justice, Ironstone, Three more Isenhart's Cases, Isenhart's Lightbrand, Leadcrow, Lycander's Aim, Magefist, Magnus Skin, another Milabrega's Orb, Plague Bearer, Razortail, two Razortines, Rip Hook, Rusthandle, two Sandar's Taboos, Serpent Lord, Shadowfang, Sigon's Gage, Soul Harvest, StormStrike, Tancred's Crowbill, The Battlebranch, The Hand of Broc, The Patriarch, Vidala's Fetlock Warlord's Trust, another Witchwild String, Woestave
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jiansonz Viridissima Amazon Valkyrie/CS 87 154 Guardian #1
Grisu Oberon Druid Fire Claws 86 124 Hell Act IV RoF
PhineasB Quinta Amazon Valk/Passive/? 83 120 Guardian #2
jiansonz Mirex Paladin FoH/Conviction 74 86 NM Cows
OldSoldier AndrewNiteTorch Paladin Charge 77 76 Hell Act II Lut Gholein
zoo Alexander Paladin Holy Shock 48 51 NM Act I Rogue Camp
OldSoldier Brigid_Crane Sorceress Balls of Fire 53 ?? NM Act II Lut Gholein
Dezrok Roland Paladin Avenger 52 40 NM Act II Lut Gholein
Dazliare Pestilence Druid Rabies 35? >2 Act V Harrogath
ioupainmax Habacalva Sorceress Melee Enchantress 32 15 Act IV Pand. Fortress
Drystan Goldilocks Amazon ?? 32 12 Act IV Panda Fortress
Logoutzero Bruin Druid Summoner 28 10 Act III Kurast Docks
Southpaw8668 Velak Necromancer Poison/CE/CG 26 8 Act II Lut Gholein
Jocular GodKnowsWho Assassin Dragontail ?? 3 Act II Lut Gholein
GothamsBeard Envy Amazon Elemental Bowzon ?? ??? Act II Lut Gholein
hackedagainanda Conrad Paladin Frost Zealot ?? ??? Act II Lut Gholein
RedTang PaniSuka Sorceress FO/Lightning ?? ??? Act I Outer Cloister
Oakbrain Olyssia Assassin Lightning Trapsin 18 0 Act I Outer Cloister
TwentyMuleTeam TwoHearted Druid Fury 13 0 Act 1 Underground Passage
jamesixgun Bethany Sorceress ChargedBolt/FOrb 13 1 Act 1 Dark Wood
Docturnal Kody Druid Hunger/??? 12 0 Act 1 Stony Field
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Southpaw8668 Wuzhul Necromancer Skelliemancer 67 ??? NM Act IV Chaos Sanctuary
Wolron HotBones Necromancer Fire Golem/BSpear 65 81 NM Act IV de Seis
Wolron Pam Amazon Bowzon 67 78 NM Act IV Diablo
Wolron TheBoss Barbarian Singer 68 70 NM Act V Halls of Vought
Wolron ShadowLurker Assassin Trapper 63 60 NM Act IV Diablo
Wolron Persephone Sorceress Frozen Orb 58 41 NM Act II T.Rasha's tombs
Charlo KulKanta Druid Ele-Summoner 59 28 NM Act III Kurast Sewers
zoo BorisTheBlade Paladin Holy Shock 56 33 NM Act II Ancient Tunnels
Oakbrain Jathnolf Barbarian Berserk/War Cry 54 ??? NM Act II Far Oasis
zoo Jens-Rune Barbarian Whirlwind 51 27 NM Act I Tamoe Highland
Wolron Durbanex Druid Summoner 49 25 NM Act I Dark Tower
LacertaCK Haramis Sorceress Meteorb 49 28 NM Act I The Hole (MSLE)
Skunkbelly NewestSkunk Sorceress FO/FB 34 16 Act IV Diablo
kstuart Chocopower Necromancer Fishymancer 34 9 Act IV Diablo
Charlo Talameer Paladin Thornadin 32 5+ Act IV Diablo
Charlo Meroca Necro Skelli/Poison 30 9 Act IV River Of Flame
Wolron Paul Paladin FOH 27 6 Act II Tal Rasha Tomb
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Thank you Jiansonz for a great tournament. I enjooyed it so much that I completely abandoned my own Spirit Tournament for quite a while. Now that I have managed to kill all seven of my characters here, it is time to go back and kill my spirits too.
Dang Wolron, that is some serious persistence. Glad you had fun!
AndrewNiteTorch moved on tonight to the Far Oasis. We faced four boss packs in the first very small area, and there was a boss pack at the very end of the Dry Hills, and I don't like to fight with monsters on my rear, so we were forced to deal with them as well. The terrain was very favourable. The bad guys still killed Gulzar two or three times though. He was still using a once-upgraded Battlebranch for this.
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I can tell you one thing: full clearing the Maggot Lair with a Charger Paladin is BORING. I was dreading this area for such a long time. It didn't take too long, but most of it ended up looking like this screenshot. We just waited for Conviction plus Holy Freeze and Gulzar with his newly minted Woestave (not upgraded yet, that cost some time and was done after the session) took care of everything.
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Interestingly, aside from the very nice damage, the main reason I schlep the Minotaur around is because of the 50% slow and the Blind enemies (the CB is redundant with the Gore Riders but also nice of course). Now the Woestave in the hands of the merc does the exact same thing! He has switched to the Woestave, permanently I think, or at least until something comes along with very high damage, in which case it will be relegated to a special monster dispatch weapon. With his high level HF and a total of 70% slow, most everything, including bosses, just sit there waiting to die when he targets them. His HF and the conviction means that nearly all the enemies we face can begin the open wounds when he connects, which is all the time. Even the Itchies went down in a few hits.
Of course, we did get a nice act V merc weapon. I don't recall if it is a grailer for me or not but it was fun to see drop.
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The Far Oasis WP is a great place to stop for the evening.
AndrewNiteTorch moved on tonight to the Far Oasis. We faced four boss packs in the first very small area, and there was a boss pack at the very end of the Dry Hills, and I don't like to fight with monsters on my rear, so we were forced to deal with them as well. The terrain was very favourable. The bad guys still killed Gulzar two or three times though. He was still using a once-upgraded Battlebranch for this.
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I can tell you one thing: full clearing the Maggot Lair with a Charger Paladin is BORING. I was dreading this area for such a long time. It didn't take too long, but most of it ended up looking like this screenshot. We just waited for Conviction plus Holy Freeze and Gulzar with his newly minted Woestave (not upgraded yet, that cost some time and was done after the session) took care of everything.
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Interestingly, aside from the very nice damage, the main reason I schlep the Minotaur around is because of the 50% slow and the Blind enemies (the CB is redundant with the Gore Riders but also nice of course). Now the Woestave in the hands of the merc does the exact same thing! He has switched to the Woestave, permanently I think, or at least until something comes along with very high damage, in which case it will be relegated to a special monster dispatch weapon. With his high level HF and a total of 70% slow, most everything, including bosses, just sit there waiting to die when he targets them. His HF and the conviction means that nearly all the enemies we face can begin the open wounds when he connects, which is all the time. Even the Itchies went down in a few hits.
Of course, we did get a nice act V merc weapon. I don't recall if it is a grailer for me or not but it was fun to see drop.
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The Far Oasis WP is a great place to stop for the evening.
I have a question: I always thought that the effects of all sources of slow were capped at something on the order of 90%, which the merc does by himself via his Holy Freeze aura (53%) and helm (20%) and weapon (50%). Does me hitting with the Minotaur (50%) stack with this since the player is a different source of slow?
The threads on this site and around the internet aren't all completely clear to me. I'd love to turn all the act bosses into kittens from here out. At the same time, I have reagents to upgrade two weapons from exceptional to elite but four current weapon choices: the Gull (addicted to the MF), the Minotaur, the Heart Carver (ITD, DS), and the Woestave (great mods all around but low damage) for the merc. I'm leaning toward the Heart Carver and Woestave for now but will likely wait until act 3 before making a final commitment. Maybe I could leave the Minotaur as is since it performs its primary function just fine without the extra damage (i.e. the slow and blinding and CB).
The threads on this site and around the internet aren't all completely clear to me. I'd love to turn all the act bosses into kittens from here out. At the same time, I have reagents to upgrade two weapons from exceptional to elite but four current weapon choices: the Gull (addicted to the MF), the Minotaur, the Heart Carver (ITD, DS), and the Woestave (great mods all around but low damage) for the merc. I'm leaning toward the Heart Carver and Woestave for now but will likely wait until act 3 before making a final commitment. Maybe I could leave the Minotaur as is since it performs its primary function just fine without the extra damage (i.e. the slow and blinding and CB).
AndrewNiteTorch ventured forth into the Claw Viper Temple and a bit further today, getting a big scare and a nice item drop.
Level 2 of the Claw Viper Temple is always nerve wracking for me. See that Fangskin was LE and CE. I made the mistake of going to my Minotaur switch, which has a distinct lack of resists, and got tagged by at least two bolts. Andrew's life bulb was full to almost empty immediately. I checked and we had 135 life remaining!
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So we switched to Salvation and finished the job with no further near catastrophes.
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We finally got a good elite level merc weapon. It has no special qualities like life leech or basically anything like the Woestave but it has a lot more damage and is very fast. I switched to it immediately and used it until the Arcane Sanctuary where I switched back for safety purposes. It certainly allowed us to move a lot faster than before in the cellars. We hadn't even found an exceptional spear or polearm at that point, so we skipped right over them!
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I only did the arcane sanctuary for two forks, until we found the Summoner. This character was wise for me to stay clear from. I really wanted to slash him with the Minotaur to make him really crawl, but I chickened out and Gulzar was more than up for the task. The Blackhorn's Face and upgraded Woestave do numbers on enemies' speed.
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We got a level, so now we're at level 79. I'm still sitting on 75 stat points because I'm just not sure of which weapons to upgrade and the heart carver would require a significant upgrade in dexterity and the minotaur a significant upgrade in strength, so I'm still stuck...
Level 2 of the Claw Viper Temple is always nerve wracking for me. See that Fangskin was LE and CE. I made the mistake of going to my Minotaur switch, which has a distinct lack of resists, and got tagged by at least two bolts. Andrew's life bulb was full to almost empty immediately. I checked and we had 135 life remaining!
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So we switched to Salvation and finished the job with no further near catastrophes.
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We finally got a good elite level merc weapon. It has no special qualities like life leech or basically anything like the Woestave but it has a lot more damage and is very fast. I switched to it immediately and used it until the Arcane Sanctuary where I switched back for safety purposes. It certainly allowed us to move a lot faster than before in the cellars. We hadn't even found an exceptional spear or polearm at that point, so we skipped right over them!
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I only did the arcane sanctuary for two forks, until we found the Summoner. This character was wise for me to stay clear from. I really wanted to slash him with the Minotaur to make him really crawl, but I chickened out and Gulzar was more than up for the task. The Blackhorn's Face and upgraded Woestave do numbers on enemies' speed.
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We got a level, so now we're at level 79. I'm still sitting on 75 stat points because I'm just not sure of which weapons to upgrade and the heart carver would require a significant upgrade in dexterity and the minotaur a significant upgrade in strength, so I'm still stuck...
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@OldSoldier: Whoa, scary Fangskin situation there with those bolts! I suspect you had even more hectic situations before you managed to isolate Fangy.
Nice find with the Viperfork, and good thinking to have grabbed a point in Salvation at some point. I haven't done that with my Paladin yet. If I survive NM cows, I'll think about it (after re-checking equipment and current resists).
I've moved on a little with my Tiger Strike + Dragon Tail character Obara.
Quick recap of skills: Tiger Strike 14, Shadow Warrior 4, have grabbed all kicks, Fade and Blade Fury.
No extra points in DTail yet.
At the start of Act IV, she was using the following:
* Biggin's Bonnet
* Nokozan Relic
* Gull
* 3s Breast Plate with flawed topaz x3
* 3s Large Shield with an MF jewel
* Light Gauntlets (non-magical)
* Nagelring (15)
* Hsaru's Iron Stay
* Manald Heal
* Vidala's Fetlock
Switch
* Deathspade
* Pelta Lunata
Kyoko, Fire Rogue
* Biggin's Bonnet
* Withersting
* Isenhart's Case
With no MF on the merc, gameplay is quite casual. Shadow tanks the worst bits. Cloak of Shadows can be used if needed, but so far, it usually isn't. Shadow has a long awareness range, and she will often run away and wake up more monsters. We can handle this here in Normal, but something like this is NOT recommended post-Normal:
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DTail's area-of-effect damage was good enough here that I didn't need to care about the little spawns (or maggot young in the RoF later). Once I had killed the larger monsters with TS/Dtail cycles, the little ones generally had died at the same time. Two cycles were needed to kill e.g. spawners, Venom Lords, regurgitators and such. Maggots sometimes died from one (and little support fire). And this was a nice surprise: fully charged DTails stole back enough mana to just keep going, thanks to the good damage output and the mana steal on Manald Heal.
Kyoko wasn't around past the Plains, though. I found a second S/U shield there, so in order to keep using my non-magical shield with MF, I had to hire an Act III merc so I could dump the second shield on him. Kill speed was about the same, but safety improved with the merc's freezing shots.
In the mazy part of the River, I found an item that meant the end of topazed non-magical armors/helms. It was a great item, though (see below). It, along with the last drop in the act has changed my plans for my DEX investment. I will now go for max blocking, because it's suddenly not nearly as stat points expensive as before*. I had 20 points saved up, they all went to DEX now.
Activating level 1 Fade had Obara at 33% lightning resist. I felt that was too low for fighting Diablo, so I kept adding to it during the act. The extra duration a couple of more levels in it comes with is also good becuase it's much less likely that I will fail to keep it activated. Yes, I have already started using Fade the whole time. Attack speed and foot speed are good enough without BoS.
Resist in the Diablo fight were 85 Fire and high 50s Lightning.
He surprised me with this:
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You can see I've swapped to DF, and I am just waiting for the short casting delay (after having recast Shadow Warrior) to be over, then I could teleport myself to Diablo.
No real danger in the fight. I had to move and drink potion when he did his breath attack, but otherwise I just had to keep my eye on the life bulb and try to be calm.
[Highlight]Pelta Lunata[/Highlight] #2 (Plains of Despair)
[Highlight]Twitchthroe[/Highlight] (River of Flame)
[Highlight]Swordback Hold[/Highlight] (Diablo)
(* At the start of the next act, I have 60% blocking and still as high as 525 life. What's nice is that a Barbed Shield has even better base blocking and I need just a few more STR points to use one)
[Highlight]Obara the TS/DTail Assassin and Flux the Cold Act III merc, level 35, Harrogath, 26 S/U items found.[/Highlight]
Nice find with the Viperfork, and good thinking to have grabbed a point in Salvation at some point. I haven't done that with my Paladin yet. If I survive NM cows, I'll think about it (after re-checking equipment and current resists).
I've moved on a little with my Tiger Strike + Dragon Tail character Obara.
Quick recap of skills: Tiger Strike 14, Shadow Warrior 4, have grabbed all kicks, Fade and Blade Fury.
No extra points in DTail yet.
At the start of Act IV, she was using the following:
* Biggin's Bonnet
* Nokozan Relic
* Gull
* 3s Breast Plate with flawed topaz x3
* 3s Large Shield with an MF jewel
* Light Gauntlets (non-magical)
* Nagelring (15)
* Hsaru's Iron Stay
* Manald Heal
* Vidala's Fetlock
Switch
* Deathspade
* Pelta Lunata
Kyoko, Fire Rogue
* Biggin's Bonnet
* Withersting
* Isenhart's Case
With no MF on the merc, gameplay is quite casual. Shadow tanks the worst bits. Cloak of Shadows can be used if needed, but so far, it usually isn't. Shadow has a long awareness range, and she will often run away and wake up more monsters. We can handle this here in Normal, but something like this is NOT recommended post-Normal:
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DTail's area-of-effect damage was good enough here that I didn't need to care about the little spawns (or maggot young in the RoF later). Once I had killed the larger monsters with TS/Dtail cycles, the little ones generally had died at the same time. Two cycles were needed to kill e.g. spawners, Venom Lords, regurgitators and such. Maggots sometimes died from one (and little support fire). And this was a nice surprise: fully charged DTails stole back enough mana to just keep going, thanks to the good damage output and the mana steal on Manald Heal.
Kyoko wasn't around past the Plains, though. I found a second S/U shield there, so in order to keep using my non-magical shield with MF, I had to hire an Act III merc so I could dump the second shield on him. Kill speed was about the same, but safety improved with the merc's freezing shots.
In the mazy part of the River, I found an item that meant the end of topazed non-magical armors/helms. It was a great item, though (see below). It, along with the last drop in the act has changed my plans for my DEX investment. I will now go for max blocking, because it's suddenly not nearly as stat points expensive as before*. I had 20 points saved up, they all went to DEX now.
Activating level 1 Fade had Obara at 33% lightning resist. I felt that was too low for fighting Diablo, so I kept adding to it during the act. The extra duration a couple of more levels in it comes with is also good becuase it's much less likely that I will fail to keep it activated. Yes, I have already started using Fade the whole time. Attack speed and foot speed are good enough without BoS.
Resist in the Diablo fight were 85 Fire and high 50s Lightning.
He surprised me with this:
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You can see I've swapped to DF, and I am just waiting for the short casting delay (after having recast Shadow Warrior) to be over, then I could teleport myself to Diablo.
No real danger in the fight. I had to move and drink potion when he did his breath attack, but otherwise I just had to keep my eye on the life bulb and try to be calm.
[Highlight]Pelta Lunata[/Highlight] #2 (Plains of Despair)
[Highlight]Twitchthroe[/Highlight] (River of Flame)
[Highlight]Swordback Hold[/Highlight] (Diablo)
(* At the start of the next act, I have 60% blocking and still as high as 525 life. What's nice is that a Barbed Shield has even better base blocking and I need just a few more STR points to use one)
[Highlight]Obara the TS/DTail Assassin and Flux the Cold Act III merc, level 35, Harrogath, 26 S/U items found.[/Highlight]
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AndrewNiteTorch continued onward in the Canyon of the Magi and the true tomb (I only explored about half the canyon and probably less than half the tomb). Some random monster in the Canyon dropped a Langer Briser and another random monster in the true tomb dropped a Face of Horror. I might try that one, especially if I upgrade the Minotaur and try to save some strength points (it has 20).
This guy, just inside the door to the true tomb, caused us some real heartache. I was forced to keep it on the Gull/Tiamat's switch for the sake of the resists since the lightning bolts carried lots of additional damage, so he stayed faster than I normally like, and he was extra strong, so he managed to kill Gulzar quite a few times. I popped back and forth between a portal and the main door a lot but we managed to finish Star Maim and his pack off.
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Before we were able to do that, catch the result, from full health of over 1000 to this amount, after getting touched by a single lightning bolt. Yikes!
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Duriel killed Gulzar a couple of times (we used the Woestave almost this entire session) despite being quite slowed by all of our equipment. AndrewNiteTorch switched to the Tancred's amulet in lieu of the Iratha's we normally wear during questing, for the additional 78% MF for the boss kill. As you can see, it worked wonders having over 200% MF...
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Off to try act III! Still level 79 since I skipped most of the second half of the act and several dungeons in the first half. Really, the only piece of equipment that is truly bad at this point is Andrew's chest armor. He uses Tancred's for the strength and life bonus. He does have a Hwanin's Refuge, which has 100 life built in, and a Sigon's with the lightning resist, but a nice Griswold's Heart or Spirit Forge or Duriel's Shell would be great... but if I keep skipping areas that reduces my chance to find one, I get it.
This guy, just inside the door to the true tomb, caused us some real heartache. I was forced to keep it on the Gull/Tiamat's switch for the sake of the resists since the lightning bolts carried lots of additional damage, so he stayed faster than I normally like, and he was extra strong, so he managed to kill Gulzar quite a few times. I popped back and forth between a portal and the main door a lot but we managed to finish Star Maim and his pack off.
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Before we were able to do that, catch the result, from full health of over 1000 to this amount, after getting touched by a single lightning bolt. Yikes!
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Duriel killed Gulzar a couple of times (we used the Woestave almost this entire session) despite being quite slowed by all of our equipment. AndrewNiteTorch switched to the Tancred's amulet in lieu of the Iratha's we normally wear during questing, for the additional 78% MF for the boss kill. As you can see, it worked wonders having over 200% MF...
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Off to try act III! Still level 79 since I skipped most of the second half of the act and several dungeons in the first half. Really, the only piece of equipment that is truly bad at this point is Andrew's chest armor. He uses Tancred's for the strength and life bonus. He does have a Hwanin's Refuge, which has 100 life built in, and a Sigon's with the lightning resist, but a nice Griswold's Heart or Spirit Forge or Duriel's Shell would be great... but if I keep skipping areas that reduces my chance to find one, I get it.
Velak has died from Diablo's lightning hose after finding 19 more S/U items. This guy was kind of fun to play until we got to Diablo and tried to take him on at /p3. He would pretty much just melt the Clay Golem and desert mercenary with his lightning hose and so I tried to get in there and get some bleeding going with Bloodrise Morning Star, but reacted to slowly when he blasted me with the lightning hose and was done for. With Velak's variety of skills employed from a currently weak Poison Nova to a stronger Corpse Explosion and every curse available he was sort of balanced, however still felt somewhat underpowered the entire time. I had to do a lot of running around trying to get the stupid mercenary to engage and try and keep the Clay Golem from dying and getting instantly surrounded by whatever was swarming on him. Not quite sure if I'll join again, maybe I'll try a Phoenix Striker this time around and hopefully get out of normal at least. 
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jiansonz Viridissima Amazon Valkyrie/CS 87 154 Guardian #1
Grisu Oberon Druid Fire Claws 86 124 Hell Act IV RoF
PhineasB Quinta Amazon Valk/Passive/? 83 120 Guardian #2
jiansonz Mirex Paladin FoH/Conviction 74 86 NM Cows
OldSoldier AndrewNiteTorch Paladin Charge 77 76 Hell Act II Lut Gholein
zoo Alexander Paladin Holy Shock 48 51 NM Act I Rogue Camp
OldSoldier Brigid_Crane Sorceress Balls of Fire 53 ?? NM Act II Lut Gholein
Dezrok Roland Paladin Avenger 52 40 NM Act II Lut Gholein
Dazliare Pestilence Druid Rabies 35? >2 Act V Harrogath
ioupainmax Habacalva Sorceress Melee Enchantress 32 15 Act IV Pand. Fortress
Drystan Goldilocks Amazon ?? 32 12 Act IV Panda Fortress
Logoutzero Bruin Druid Summoner 28 10 Act III Kurast Docks
Jocular GodKnowsWho Assassin Dragontail ?? 3 Act II Lut Gholein
GothamsBeard Envy Amazon Elemental Bowzon ?? ??? Act II Lut Gholein
hackedagainanda Conrad Paladin Frost Zealot ?? ??? Act II Lut Gholein
RedTang PaniSuka Sorceress FO/Lightning ?? ??? Act I Outer Cloister
Oakbrain Olyssia Assassin Lightning Trapsin 18 0 Act I Outer Cloister
TwentyMuleTeam TwoHearted Druid Fury 13 0 Act 1 Underground Passage
jamesixgun Bethany Sorceress ChargedBolt/FOrb 13 1 Act 1 Dark Wood
Docturnal Kody Druid Hunger/??? 12 0 Act 1 Stony Field
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Southpaw8668 Wuzhul Necromancer Skelliemancer 67 ??? NM Act IV Chaos Sanctuary
Wolron HotBones Necromancer Fire Golem/BSpear 65 81 NM Act IV de Seis
Wolron Pam Amazon Bowzon 67 78 NM Act IV Diablo
Wolron TheBoss Barbarian Singer 68 70 NM Act V Halls of Vought
Wolron ShadowLurker Assassin Trapper 63 60 NM Act IV Diablo
Wolron Persephone Sorceress Frozen Orb 58 41 NM Act II T.Rasha's tombs
Charlo KulKanta Druid Ele-Summoner 59 28 NM Act III Kurast Sewers
zoo BorisTheBlade Paladin Holy Shock 56 33 NM Act II Ancient Tunnels
Oakbrain Jathnolf Barbarian Berserk/War Cry 54 ??? NM Act II Far Oasis
zoo Jens-Rune Barbarian Whirlwind 51 27 NM Act I Tamoe Highland
Wolron Durbanex Druid Summoner 49 25 NM Act I Dark Tower
LacertaCK Haramis Sorceress Meteorb 49 28 NM Act I The Hole (MSLE)
Southpaw8668 Velak Necromancer Poison/CE/CG 34 27 Act IV Diablo
Skunkbelly NewestSkunk Sorceress FO/FB 34 16 Act IV Diablo
kstuart Chocopower Necromancer Fishymancer 34 9 Act IV Diablo
Charlo Talameer Paladin Thornadin 32 5+ Act IV Diablo
Charlo Meroca Necro Skelli/Poison 30 9 Act IV River Of Flame
Wolron Paul Paladin FOH 27 6 Act II Tal Rasha Tomb
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@Southpaw8668 Condolences .
@OldSoldier Not sure about your question about slowing. I remember a similar question a while back here at the SPF, but can't find it, nor the answer. I do know that I linked to the AB 'Slows Target' page then, so that's what I'll do again. Not sure if that makes things more clear for you.
.@OldSoldier Not sure about your question about slowing. I remember a similar question a while back here at the SPF, but can't find it, nor the answer. I do know that I linked to the AB 'Slows Target' page then, so that's what I'll do again. Not sure if that makes things more clear for you.
@T72on1 thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that one. Since I have Blackhorn's Face, Woestave and The Minotaur, as well as the merc Holy Freeze aura, it seems like when they are all active, i.e. I target a tough monster that the merc is also targeting, that they move pretty darn slow, so my guess is that they do stack somehow, up to some certain point and the rest is redundant but might help against extra fast enemies. I might leave it at that for my investigation since it "feels" like things move slower to me when using the Minotaur versus just my standard Gull charge, where just the merc is providing the slow effects. It is interesting that I started out with a holy freeze merc as a way to deal with physical immunes but since I've found three other pieces of slowing gear that are all useful, I've found a good non-Conversion way to exercise crowd control with my paladin.
AndrewNiteTorch made it to Upper Kurast last night. He tried the Lam Esen temple but there was a boss pack of spiders and another one of rogues (or maybe it was a champ pack, there were definitely two colors of rogues but I never got the cursor on them) immediately at the door, and since spiders are big monsters, there would be no charge room, and so upon entering I immediately took damage, very quickly surveyed the landscape, and just retreated out the door never to return. So Lam Esen's tome will sit unused for the next intrepid adventurer to try to reclaim it. There was just no way for a charger paladin to prevail in that circumstance.
AndrewNiteTorch made it to Upper Kurast last night. He tried the Lam Esen temple but there was a boss pack of spiders and another one of rogues (or maybe it was a champ pack, there were definitely two colors of rogues but I never got the cursor on them) immediately at the door, and since spiders are big monsters, there would be no charge room, and so upon entering I immediately took damage, very quickly surveyed the landscape, and just retreated out the door never to return. So Lam Esen's tome will sit unused for the next intrepid adventurer to try to reclaim it. There was just no way for a charger paladin to prevail in that circumstance.
So AndrewNiteTorch blazed his trail through Travincal and the Durance of Hate. That is typically the most fun part of the game for me, so I decided to full clear it all tonight. Good thing that I did. We found the stairs down to level 2 right off the bat, but we decided to explore a bit more, and this mauler boss was carrying the nicest item!
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We decided to equip it immediately. I was happy enough with the Iratha's crown but this is much better! I hate being chilled, especially since speed is paramount to a charge paladin and opening up a distance between ourselves and targets. It is also our only source of FHR, aside from a Nokozan amulet which we don't ever wear.
Here we see the Slayer brothers, Bile Hawk and Rot Shard. Gulzar did most of the work, Andrew kept them slowed and off balance via the charge knock back.
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This guy was some trouble in the opening room of level 3. He had quite a few buddies in the room and we had to be really careful that we kept away from the deadly dual enchanted lightning bolts. I got hit once again and wow they pack a punch!
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Bremm was another we kept clear of. Most of the time Gulzar beat on him with the Woestave while Andrew supported with a level 3 Salvation, which with his Darkglow is easily enough to get Gulzar's resists to 80 percent. No problems.
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We used all of our purples on Mephisto just to save trips to town, since I wanted the slow target from Gulzar, and we finished him off with about 200% MF, not too bad.
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Two S/U, neither will be used.
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AndrewNiteTorch, level 81 Charger, Pandemonium Fortress
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We decided to equip it immediately. I was happy enough with the Iratha's crown but this is much better! I hate being chilled, especially since speed is paramount to a charge paladin and opening up a distance between ourselves and targets. It is also our only source of FHR, aside from a Nokozan amulet which we don't ever wear.
Here we see the Slayer brothers, Bile Hawk and Rot Shard. Gulzar did most of the work, Andrew kept them slowed and off balance via the charge knock back.
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This guy was some trouble in the opening room of level 3. He had quite a few buddies in the room and we had to be really careful that we kept away from the deadly dual enchanted lightning bolts. I got hit once again and wow they pack a punch!
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Bremm was another we kept clear of. Most of the time Gulzar beat on him with the Woestave while Andrew supported with a level 3 Salvation, which with his Darkglow is easily enough to get Gulzar's resists to 80 percent. No problems.
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We used all of our purples on Mephisto just to save trips to town, since I wanted the slow target from Gulzar, and we finished him off with about 200% MF, not too bad.
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Two S/U, neither will be used.
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AndrewNiteTorch, level 81 Charger, Pandemonium Fortress
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