The Most Extreme Elimination Challenge Mafia Edition
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No. I don't know his name, his abilities, or his alignment outside of what he already mentioned. All I was told is vengeful murderer.
Thanks
A little too late, but thanks anyway Funny part of all this is I have a 1xDoc but only usable at night XD!
Zokar was a policy lynch if Danny didn't come forward and give him his wincon because in that case Danny was either dead (Zokar has no win to play for and is thus a Policy Lynch as a neutral) or Mafia (Zokar has incentive to help mafia win in which case he's also a Policy Lynch) or Zokar was lying (which obviously makes him a very top lynch candidate).
For the record, I'm not Danny. I am Gangar Bangar (Yes, that's really my name!).
Zokar, you said your kill will not be influenced by anyone. I hope you understand that from a town perspective you are a very dangerous player to have around. Unless you meet your wincon, and town helps you do so, you have no incentive to play for town and thus your future play is too risky to risk. This is why CG normally argues to kill neutrals and why I declared you a Policy Lynch today.
I fully expect you to kill me at the end of the day; however, I can only say that if you do so you will rob the town of a powerful role. Perhaps you will want to do that out of vengeance since I laid out the case to lynch you unless Danny came forward, or perhaps you will just want to damage the town. I'm sort of hoping you have some scum reads and go for someone you think is scum, but if I were in your shoes, I would conclude that the odds are that Danny is town and alive and probably go out with a vengeful act.
All of that to say: I completely understand however you choose, but I sincerely hope you will help the town.
So cakes rides my coat tails to cross and I dont make it:whistling: Dont make me bust out my *Roller Skates*
Ok... lets play your game for a moment. A bit of quid pro quo shall we? If you really want me to help town, then this is the way that I am willing to help. If Danny helps me win, I'll give him final say over who to kill. If he doesn't, then I'll just stick to my original plan. Sound reasonable?
Are you planning on sharing what you remembered?
I could see it, but the lack of votes counting doesn't exactly fit.
So does this mean that flubb is going to die? What powers do you have exactly at this point?
It was at least 7. To be fair, there was a letter/post limit in effect and I was desperately trying to not get lynched. No worries about multi-posts if you can't edit logout.
So logout, do you know why you are not able to post today? Is it part of your role?
That is my understanding, he should die when I die at the end of the day. I still have at least 1 shot each of strongman and cure.
If you are telling the truth, Danny could be mafia or already dead. I would assume Danny would be a townie because putting in a neutral curer who had to cure a mafia would basically make you mafia and not neutral.
It's not the town's fault if Danny is already dead, and you have to admit that your role is a Policy Lynch. If you want to punish me for pointing out the obvious, you may do so and there's nothing I can do to stop you. When I was neutral I played for the town win condition and will continue to do so every time I come up neutral in the hopes that me being neutral isn't necessarily a Policy Lynch but for the most part Survivor, VI, your role, etc... are all Policy Lynches.
Yeah, it's entirely possible he's dead. When I asked if I would be notified upon his death I basically got a no answer reply, so yeah I have no way of knowing if he's alive or not. I admit my role is scary and I don't blame people for wanting me gone.
As for who to kill if he doesn't show up, I know you keep thinking it will be you, but if, as you say, Danny is more likely to be town, then it is town that is against me. That being said, at least Bad Ash I know for sure has some powers and I'd rather take out somebody I know has powers than to guess and risk taking you out since you've not given anybody anything to actually verify your claim. Even if you claimed now (and I doubt you will) I doubt you'll have anything that I can verify, so it's still looking like a better "in character" vengeful act to take out BA instead of you.
How so when I neither voted or shot you? I was trying to give you a chance to explain the murder part of your role title when you were shot.
I feel like several people haven't posted yet today so maybe we will still see Danny? Not even for Zokar agreeing to work with us, but if he needs to be cured and is pro-town that would suck to lose him. Of course, he could already be dead?
It's not so much your actions but the bigger picture. Right now, you're most likely the most valuable player to the town. Seeing as how I find it likely that Danny is probably town, I see his silence as a town play. As a neutral player, I feel that my only card left on the table is to offer up a deal, which I have. If that fails, that is again, in my view, the will of the town and as such I have a strong desire to punish the town and you just happen to be the man with the powers that I know for sure works since you got my actual role.
Maybe Danny is dead and all of this is for nothing and town will be punished by no fault of its own... life sucks sometimes. I want to win, and right now the only way that is likely to happen is if Danny lets me... his silence means your death, and as unfair as that is, those are the cards I have to play.
It's still early, but tomorrow I work. I will do my best to check in about an hour before day end (which is roughly my lunch break time) and go from there, but in case I can't do that, I have the order already placed in my qt that unless I change by end of day to go ahead and use a strongman shot on Bad Ash.
A hostage situation eh? Well, I am not going to spend the rest of this day phase convincing you otherwise. I am not Danny, so it's not in my control who you shoot. I do find it laughable that I am the most valuable player to the town when you know absolutely nothing about my role. Maybe you should shoot me come to think of it.
Anyways, back to the scum hunt.
Has logout explained why his votes weren't counting? People think he is NOT the VI because his votes aren't counting?
Anyways, back to the scum hunt.
Has logout explained why his votes weren't counting? People think he is NOT the VI because his votes aren't counting?
IWantToUseNumbersInMyName
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Zokar: Actually, logically speaking, if danny doesn't speak up, he's scum, or dead. Scum sees that by not letting themselves get cured, they get an extra kill. This is basically looking to be a 3 town death day unless we get lucky on the lynch. IF danny is town, and not speaking up, then he *must* be dead, in which case the town has nothing to do with this, and your vengeance is *still* misplaced. If you want to help the mafia that's fine, but honestly the town is already losing at least one player to flub shooting you, and is statistically likely to lose a 2nd from a mislynch today...I don't see any particular reason for you to go out of your way to hurt us more.
That's enough information for me. Doesn't matter exactly how you got my info, that you can is enough for me to consider you as I do. Granted, there are likely PR out there that is stronger and maybe Drixx really is one, but I have significantly less cause to actually believe any of them. You got my role somehow... good enough for me.
That is not logic... if danny is scum and says nothing, he dies. On a team with so few many players, that's a huge impact. If he does speak up, he looks town, gets to live, probably stays under the radar and is a pretty decent setup.
best case scenario for town is that flubb is neutral and i am neutral and danny gets saved and he pics a mafia to kill, that's pretty damn pro town right there.
worst case is flubb is town, bad ash is town, i'm neutral and danny is town and you lynch a townie, that's 4 dead townies (3 today and 1 shortly after) which is pretty anti town.
I'm fine with either one.
Can't say I disagree. Been an interesting experience, but I'd shoot my *** too lol!
Interesting things happened since I checked last. I can't fault Zokar on his play to win. I'm not Danny, so I can't do anything with it anyway.
Anyway, I think logoutzero is a VI. His play last day phase has been sooooo freeking scummy and he kind of set thefranklin vs. him thingy up himself. Just look at his easily given name and role claim. No thinking straight scum would ever come out with that. Today he's tried not to be lynched as far as I can see, so I think we might have an even day VI. Not that I care about that. If he's a VI he's neutral and best be gone. Give him his win con and get the distraction out of the game.
Same with Zokar. Let that go now. He's been shot. The only person who can potentially influence Zokar now is Danny comming out. That's Danny's choice and nothing all not Danny's can do with it.
I'd rather like to hear more from flubb on why he did what he did and why he thinks that benefits town.
Vote: logoutzero
Anyway, I think logoutzero is a VI. His play last day phase has been sooooo freeking scummy and he kind of set thefranklin vs. him thingy up himself. Just look at his easily given name and role claim. No thinking straight scum would ever come out with that. Today he's tried not to be lynched as far as I can see, so I think we might have an even day VI. Not that I care about that. If he's a VI he's neutral and best be gone. Give him his win con and get the distraction out of the game.
Same with Zokar. Let that go now. He's been shot. The only person who can potentially influence Zokar now is Danny comming out. That's Danny's choice and nothing all not Danny's can do with it.
I'd rather like to hear more from flubb on why he did what he did and why he thinks that benefits town.
Vote: logoutzero