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I only reiterated what I said since Pyro asked about it.
I still don't understand why people are so accepting of Sathoris' ability to just ask for names (I can think of zero ways this would help town) and people is alright with it because, you know, Sathoris has dem special rights. Why are you alright with him having access to this kind of information, and also keeping it secret?
If he does indeed have some role that has given him info, and he is town, then it is up to him how and when to communicate that clearly. So far he has gone after Bad Ash for reasons I don't see in the thread and after you for what looked like, at the time he voted you, a day where you made two very noncontributing posts to make the minimum. You've certainly perked up now that folks are seriously considering voting you, but you seem to be trying to re-direct us to Sathoris.
The problem is that Sathoris is doing what he always does. Until we have some actual posts and explanation from him, it is equally likely, to me, that he could be mafia, town or neutral. His play does not seem to vary, and until he decides to explain the name thing or drops it and refuses to explain why he went down that path, him probing an a way I don't understand isn't a reason for me to vote him.
Him asking about names got me reading up on lore and I googled my own name. According to one source I'm a super famous good guy leader for the group our setting is focusing on. In another source, I was born into privilege but chose service but was ultimately corrupted and converted to chaos. In a third source, I'm just a grunt on a list of names. If I gave my name, people could conclude I'm a town power role, a neutral, or an agent of chaos or basically anything they want to suggest, depending on which source they link to.
So I'm a bit skeptical of the name thing in terms of looking up Warhammer lore because it seems likely that at least some names have conflicting stories or perhaps are used for different people. In the end, I've found the best thing to do with Sathoris is wait until he chooses to explain himself and then hope that either an investigative role clears or condemns him or hope that there is some slip. I don't think I've ever actually seen a legit slip. Some times when he was town I thought I saw a slip and went after him and ended up being wrong.
All of that to say I don't think voting Sathoris is the right move and you don't really seem to be defending yourself as much as you seem to be trying to deflect back upon the one who pointed out that you appeared to be trying to get through the day on very little contribution.
If he has access to extra information related to names for a town reason, then I'm perfectly fine with him keeping it a secret, although one might argue you are inferring he has a power role and pointing him out as a potential kill target from the way you phrased that. If he's a neutral, then probably we need to get rid of him. If he's scum, then of course we need to get rid of him ... but the problem is he hasn't even admitted to having any special access or information in the first place.
@Pyrotechnician - Yeah... I always find day 1 frustrating, but this one seems more slow and unproductive than usual. I have my vote on someone for probably the worst reason I ever put a vote on someone: he was lurky and when he got called on it he's expended considerable effort in OMGUS trying to redirect back to the person who pointed it out. Every single player in the game, regardless of alignment, might do that.
Honestly unless something surprising comes up in the next few hours, it seems like lynching someone Sathoris fingered and then evaluating why Sathoris is specifically asking for nameclaims is going to give the most information in the short and long run. Best case is we get a scum out of it.