Batman - The Dark Knight Mafia Game

I got multiquote happy for the first time evar and wanted to get everything in one place regarding Gory so far today. He probably loves this attention. I'm excluding the 2 or 3 joke posts, btw
The vote in 242?

Did you interrogate Malevolent because be seemed pretty town yesterday? Did you do whatever it is you may have done to Malevolent because he seemed pretty town yesterday?

Imagine you were a cop with a guilty verdict on someone. What are the possibilities that would cause you to NOT vote the player with a guilty verdict?

Why did you interrogate Malevolent during twilight if you thought he was pretty town up to that point?

Val's playing with his Jump To Conclusions mat. It sounds like you are assuming djm is a watcher/tracker. Therefore, wouldn't the target be Drixx?
Well, upon rereading I don't see any kind of defense. The biggest "defense" I can see is what you MIGHT be able to describe as discrediting the *insert dj's apparent role here*. I don't see that either. I can see Gory, and others, asking these same questions to people regarding action claims.
My vote goes to Mal as well. I trust dj more than him at this point. Mal's defense was not very convincing either.

Vote: Malevolent

As to prosecute. I would like to hear much more from all of them. I'll use my prosecute on BPC. I'd really like to see if he's going to contribute or not.

Prosecute: BPC

I don't like Gory's behaviour. I don't think I have seen him posting pics in a game thread before and his "attempt" at defending Mal was so weak that it basically screamed "lynch me next". A town Gory wouldn't act that stupid.
Agreed, it's better to lynch mal then dj at this point. I don't know any lore backing up the freeze thing but apparently some people are saying freezegun = bad.

Now here's the first post I saw saying Gory failed to defend Mal. I explained above that I don't see it, can you explain this?
I also find it suspicious that Goryani is defending Mal so hard.

Mal hasn't posted in a while. Care to share your thoughts?

As for the second vote, I still have no idea.

Has cdm even posted yet in this day phase?
Can you explain the defending bit as well? Or were you jsut following Moar?
My theory is that he wants to get lynched.
Oh, so you don't think mafia. Interesting.
So you believe that he is a Village Idiot, correct?

Upon first reading I didn't see a defence of Mal. Maybe I didn't read carefully enough. And he's defending "so hard", I'm going to have to read back and see if that's the case when I'm at my comp
Just quoting stuff in order, so this is where I said I'll come back.
I didn't see the Lamist, can you explain it better?



Wanna make sure you get in on the lynch?



I didn't see him as defending him, just questioning. The way gory reacted there is actually what I consider to be typical gory behavior.
Someone who agrees.
"Theory" reads to me that someone believes that something may be likely and can be used as an explanation or probability. "Possibility" reads that something may be an explanation but not necessarily probable. Do you agree or disagree?
Reference for the following answer.
My theory is that he wants to get lynched. I rank that as a probability. Why, I don't know. I am not him. Being the VI is a possibility and may be an explanation for why he wants to get lynched. Disclaimer: I am not a natural English speaker and may use words slightly wrong.
I have no clue what you are after with your vocabulary talk.

@BPC
Thanks for contributing. That was about opposite behavour from your Twilight posts.

Release: BPC
Okay, so Moar thinks he wants to be lynched for whatever reason works with Gory's role. Ok, fair enough, if you can explain the defending bit.
 
Sure. Why in the world would a townie ask the question "Is this a townie move?" in reference to their own actions?
Oh, I see. In your original quote of him you left out his vote, so I was a bit confused.

You raise a good point, though I know that upon first reading his post it seemed innocent to me.
 
oh, so i dont' see himer as being completely useless. Looks like some feeble attempt at breadcrumbing, or at least just playing with us. Ankeli and someone else have only posted once (?) and are just as equal as bing " the most useless player this game."
Maybe i have a thing for omgwtfbbqpwned, I mean, who doesn't?
oh, yeah, i'm supposed to be gathering logs for another fire... (light my fire - doors)

"most useless player" was perhaps an over statement. But he has been useless indeed. The reason I mentioned him and not Ank was that omg actually seemed to be around and still chose to not be helpful.
 
So? If someone wants to be lynched, perhaps we should lynch them. Either they're town and their lynch will benefit us, they're mafia and need to be lynched, or are neutral and distracting the town from hunting mafia.

Saying that we should not lynch someone just because they're a VI is a scum argument. VI's need to be removed from the game, and we can not count on mafia night killing them for us.



If your name was up for prosecution, I'd be voting you. Moar as well, since twice now she's labeled someone as a possible VI.

Since neither of you are available, I'm still leaning towards Prosecuting Bad Ash. As I stated yesterday, I dislike the argument that while we should Interrogate, we don't necessarily need to proceed with a Prosecution

Tomorrow will be a different discussion if we still have weird Gory. We can't lynch him today anyway, so all he can do is distract us. And there is another option to why he wants to be lynched: is it possible he gets benefit from it? What if he is the joker and when we lynch him he gets an extra kill or something? Or he is a VI that takes people with him?

And I really don't think I ever said VI. And I never said we should not lynch him. Grouping me with Moar and putting those words in my mouth makes you scum, heh.
 
A bit wishful thinking, the chances of getting two mafia on this large of a game is quite....small, but yes it would be very nice.

If I remember correctly, you pointed this out twice so far this game. In the last big game Sath repeatedly stressed the low odds of getting 2 mafia lynches on D1. In the end it turns out he was mafia. Granted, there were 2 mafia teams and the two lynched were on separate teams, so he could only have known one was mafia, but I still don't like the parallel.

#conestogamall #shopping

I don't get an answer to my questions then? Just in case you missed them:
Why do you feel cdm is town?
Since you said you think 2 of the prosecute possibilities are town, what do you think about the others?
Do you plan on using your prosecute vote today?
 
Tomorrow will be a different discussion if we still have weird Gory. We can't lynch him today anyway, so all he can do is distract us. And there is another option to why he wants to be lynched: is it possible he gets benefit from it? What if he is the joker and when we lynch him he gets an extra kill or something? Or he is a VI that takes people with him?

And I really don't think I ever said VI. And I never said we should not lynch him. Grouping me with Moar and putting those words in my mouth makes you scum, heh.

This post is odd to me. You come up with what would appear to be reasons for not lynching Gory - him having a dangerous role. You then immediately follow up with "I never said we should not lynch him". So what exactly do you think we should do about him?
 
@pharphy
A player who generally questions both sides in an argument suddenly just questions one of them raises suspicion here. There's one post from Gory you didn't quote. On purpose?

Imagine you were a cop with a guilty verdict on someone. What are the possibilities that would cause you to NOT vote the player with a guilty verdict?
#290

That one was with a quote of what Mal said. Is there any question about Mal and his explanation? No, he's talking about dj making it look as if he is asking Mal.

Maybe "trying to deflect" is a better word than "defense". Both things do mean the same though. He's trying to get dj to look bad while not Mal.

And I do look at his 2 pic posts as well. Why would that not be relevant to his behaviour? It doesn't fit with town Gory either. And neither does any of the mentioned behaviours fit with mafia Gory. Why the heck would he do either of those things and risk getting attention. He's not Bad Ash who regularly posts pics. So people will notice and wonder.
 
Tomorrow will be a different discussion if we still have weird Gory. We can't lynch him today anyway, so all he can do is distract us. And there is another option to why he wants to be lynched: is it possible he gets benefit from it? What if he is the joker and when we lynch him he gets an extra kill or something? Or he is a VI that takes people with him?

And I really don't think I ever said VI. And I never said we should not lynch him. Grouping me with Moar and putting those words in my mouth makes you scum, heh.

I haven't said that I think he's a VI. I just said that it is a possible explanation for his behaviour. I have not said anything about wanting to lynch him or not. What I said is that it looks like he wants to be lynched. Please do not twist my words.
 
I did not twist your words, talk to the guy that did.

Gwahir: I am not advocating anything right now, just putting out discussion points. The only reason to not lynch Gory is Mal, my "what if Gory" statements were directed at CG who stated the normal VI possibilities.
 
ugh, sleep is good, not so good when you wake up to this....

well anything i say from here on is going to be disregarded anyway, but ill still claim.

I am Mr.Freeze, roleblocker, and 2 shot killer, anti town.

Unfortunately for me there are no other members in my mafia group, i beleive there are several 1-man groups of mafia floating around. In the batman comics and movies, when do you ever see 4+ villians team up? it doesnt happen.

well good game fellas, Dj- wether you are town or just a rival mafia group, good job, and yes- my defence was rather poor.
 
@pharphy
A player who generally questions both sides in an argument suddenly just questions one of them raises suspicion here. There's one post from Gory you didn't quote. On purpose?

#290

That one was with a quote of what Mal said. Is there any question about Mal and his explanation? No, he's talking about dj making it look as if he is asking Mal.

Maybe "trying to deflect" is a better word than "defense". Both things do mean the same though. He's trying to get dj to look bad while not Mal.

And I do look at his 2 pic posts as well. Why would that not be relevant to his behaviour? It doesn't fit with town Gory either. And neither does any of the mentioned behaviours fit with mafia Gory. Why the heck would he do either of those things and risk getting attention. He's not Bad Ash who regularly posts pics. So people will notice and wonder.
Ah, I'm not sure how I missed that one. However, I don't see the same thing you do. I see him questioning Mal about what he would do if he were in dj's shoes. In his response he makes the assumption dj is a cop like mal said, and then asks what "other possibilities" could possibly make a cop with a guilty verdict unvote someone. Seems like a legitimate question to me, and I don't think Mal answered.

The pictures didn't stand out to me as he does post pictures at times.

I get the feeling Mal is guilty but can't come up with a claim, though ofc he may not have read everything yet.
i would think Mal would instead just claim immediately after getting some heat to what the "other possibilities" are which would give a guilty verdict on someone innocent.
 
PS- I did not kill drixx, i roleblocked Gory though, thinking he was likely a rival scum who might kill me after my decent performance yesterday
 
I don't think what you say makes sense. However, you claimed anti-town so we can believe at least that much.

Vote: Malevolent.
 
Imagine you were a cop with a guilty verdict on someone. What are the possibilities that would cause you to NOT vote the player with a guilty verdict?

Look at the above quote again please.

Ah, I'm not sure how I missed that one. However, I don't see the same thing you do. I see him questioning Mal about what he would do if he were in dj's shoes. In his response he makes the assumption dj is a cop like mal said, and then asks what "other possibilities" could possibly make a cop with a guilty verdict unvote someone. Seems like a legitimate question to me, and I don't think Mal answered.

The pictures didn't stand out to me as he does post pictures at times.

I get the feeling Mal is guilty but can't come up with a claim, though ofc he may not have read everything yet.
i would think Mal would instead just claim immediately after getting some heat to what the "other possibilities" are which would give a guilty verdict on someone innocent.

Look at the bolded and underlined part. How is "not vote" the same as "unvote"?
Anyway, my point is that Gory did not ask at all about Mal and his action, but indirectly asked about what Mal thought about dj's actions. That is not putting Mal under pressure at all. It's quite a stupid question also. The day was not long into the day and it's only dj's 2nd game. Gory knows that dj probably doesn't know how to present his findings correct and back it up with a vote.
 
Count as of #356:

11 to lynch, 12 to lock

Vote:
Malevolent(12): djmbbandie, Valhauros, flubbucket, Solar Ice, Ankeli, Caluin Graye, FredofErik, kestegs, omgwtfbbqpwned, Moar, pharphis, Noodle
Djmbbandie(1): Malevolent

Malevolent has been locked, he will be lynched at the end of the day phase which is in 23 hours.

Prosecution:
Bad Ash(3): Noodle, coju, Valhauros
Omgwtfbbqpwned(3): FredofErik, flubbucket, BipolarChemist
Crawlingdeadman(1): thefranklin, (coju), (Solar Ice)
Noodle(1): Bad Ash
BipolarChemist(0): (Moar)
 
And I really don't think I ever said VI. And I never said we should not lynch him. Grouping me with Moar and putting those words in my mouth makes you scum, heh.

No? Are these not your words?

I feel the same way. The only scum hunting he has done is grill bandie in a hail of role fishing. It seems like he wants to be lynched.

The most obvious reason for someone who wants to be lynched is what again? You may have not specifically uttered the words, but you implied heavily.

What if he is the joker and when we lynch him he gets an extra kill or something? Or he is a VI that takes people with him?

This, also, is hilarious to me. Where's Sathoris when you need him? I require a snarky "How I wish I could vote more people today" comment!


Oh, I see. In your original quote of him you left out his vote, so I was a bit confused.

You raise a good point, though I know that upon first reading his post it seemed innocent to me.

Yes, sorry. I tend to remove votes from quotes, as to not confuse a moderator who is using the Find function to count votes.
 
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