Gods of Ancient Greece. Forum mafia game.

[Zokar1]

Hey, glad you are helping out. Way to butcher posts to contribute to your own cause.

LOL, I give up.

 

[korialstraz]

@Zokar: so you're saying your not a watcher? Isn't that what you've been saying all along? Watching a person to see if someone visits them?

I'm starting to think zokars earlier post about his targets was a slip. I mean Moar is right about 1 thing, sonar has been very reluctant to give out information, and now suddenly he is announcing his upcoming night target? I thought it was a bit weird earlier, but it just doesn't feel right.

 

[Zokar1]

@Zokar: so you're saying your not a watcher? Isn't that what you've been saying all along? Watching a person to see if someone visits them?

I'm starting to think zokars earlier post about his targets was a slip. I mean Moar is right about 1 thing, sonar has been very reluctant to give out information, and now suddenly he is announcing his upcoming night target? I thought it was a bit weird earlier, but it just doesn't feel right.

No, I'm saying I'm a town watcher that made mistakes which backed me into a corner and now I'm digging holes and can't seem to stop.

 

[thefranklin]

1: I've stated that earlier as well. Why point it out?
2: Because of the information overload. Haven't had time to sit down and read all of it properly. Also I never take notes, so I'm going off of what I have in my head.
3: Thanks! It's been snowing most of the day. So delays, slippery roads and all that funny stuff during winter times. >_<

I was pointing it out as a LAMIST statement of "oh goodness, people died, I am so surprised."

We aren't really getting anywhere are we? Before I begin I'd like to mention all of this is posted from the phone, so no fancy quoting. Also apologize in advance for spelling errors.

I'd like to bring up a few suggestions. I believe pharphis is on the right track. In fact if the trend of night kills keep up, we should be swing 1 kill tonight. The next night however? If we lynch Jcakes now, we will have got a scum, but how likely is it that Jcakes is the last mafia, and the remaining killers are serial ones? I don't think Jcakes isn't the last mafia, or else there would be no reason for him to withold information. That means even if we lynch Jcakes, mafia can still nk, since nk isn't usually a specific ability, rather It's just q person having to send in the actual kill order (correct me if I'm wrong). That's why I believe its more important to catch a serial killer than a mafia.

Question @everyone: who do you regard as town? Also do we have someone regarded as a confirmed townie? In my eyes there isn't one.

What would you guys think of doing a mass role (and ability) claim? Would it let use us that knowleadge to be able to find a person or two as confirmed town?

We are getting places, yes JCakes is scum we need to lynch him. We could get further if we get an extra vote from TC, but I don't think that will happen.

Are you really trying to get us to not vote JCakes? And have all power roles step forward? I am operating under the assumption that people with these helpful roles will step forward when they are provided. Your idea here just has scum written all over it.

And why do you need someone confirmed as town? Are you sick of the other mafia killing your mafia? Are you sick of hitting their mafia? Today the lynch is pretty golden, there is no point in planning this for tomorrow as it only helps the people who kill at night, and that is not what we want to do. If your concern is that we lose information at night, well it is up to the person who has said information if it is worth it to give.

 

[thefranklin]

I will help you though, here are my thoughts on who is SCUM:
You - Korialstraz
Zokar
FoE
JCakes of course

Now look at that, there are 11 people left, Moar's vote doesn't count, so really 10 people left and 6 people to lynch, if there were 5-6 starting scum and a serial killer or two, we have pretty much already lost assuming only one scum death. Do you think that is the case? I sure do not, which means you people trying to sell us on the "just a serial killer" idea are 100% scum. Oh yeah, that was JCakes.

Another thing we need to think about: What exactly was CG trying to protect?

 

[thefranklin]

No, I'm saying I'm a town watcher that made mistakes which backed me into a corner and now I'm digging holes and can't seem to stop.

You admit to mistakes? I would like to hear what you think is a mistake, because you have been 100% steady in all of your thoughts all game.

LOL, I give up.

You changed my quote in an attempt to ridicule me. Why is that funny and why does that cause you to give up? Grow up.

 

[Kestegs]

I was pointing it out as a LAMIST statement of "oh goodness, people died, I am so surprised."



We are getting places, yes JCakes is scum we need to lynch him. We could get further if we get an extra vote from TC, but I don't think that will happen.

Are you really trying to get us to not vote JCakes? And have all power roles step forward? I am operating under the assumption that people with these helpful roles will step forward when they are provided. Your idea here just has scum written all over it.

And why do you need someone confirmed as town? Are you sick of the other mafia killing your mafia? Are you sick of hitting their mafia? Today the lynch is pretty golden, there is no point in planning this for tomorrow as it only helps the people who kill at night, and that is not what we want to do. If your concern is that we lose information at night, well it is up to the person who has said information if it is worth it to give.

That's about how I feel about that post as well. I think if we were to do a mass claim it would need to be on a day when we were to actually put it to use, not on a day when there is already a perfect scum to lynch.

I can understand the reasoning on the SK vs Mafia lynch though, but assuming the Sk can only kill on even nights that is irrelevant for today.

I will help you though, here are my thoughts on who is SCUM:
You - Korialstraz
Zokar
FoE
JCakes of course

Now look at that, there are 11 people left, Moar's vote doesn't count, so really 10 people left and 6 people to lynch, if there were 5-6 starting scum and a serial killer or two, we have pretty much already lost assuming only one scum death. Do you think that is the case? I sure do not, which means you people trying to sell us on the "just a serial killer" idea are 100% scum. Oh yeah, that was JCakes.

Another thing we need to think about: What exactly was CG trying to protect?

My scum, list:

jcakes: obviously

Pharphis or Zokar. I really don't think they are both scum, at least I remember making that assumption at some point in this game. I certainly doubt they are on the same team. Right now I am more inclined towards Pharphis though.

Foe/ moar: As much as I keep telling myself to ignore the tales of men with a noose around there neck I cannot. I am highly leaning towards FoE though.

Korial: He's rubbed me wrong the whole game with many posts and proddings.

Franklin: No particular reason or post, just a feeling.

I'm still calling Laarz as the VI.

 

[Zokar1]

You admit to mistakes? I would like to hear what you think is a mistake, because you have been 100% steady in all of your thoughts all game.



You changed my quote in an attempt to ridicule me. Why is that funny and why does that cause you to give up? Grow up.

On the first point, you clearly have to be kidding....

On the second point, I did not change your quote. I did not attempt to ridicule you. I asked a serious question. You then mock me.

It's not my fault if you don't like your own words.

 

[korialstraz]

@thefranklin: can't do pretty quotes, so sorry if this gets messy.

So It's lamist to be surprised overs there being 3 kills? That is highly unusual to me (based) on past experience, even more so considering a night earlier in the game with 4 kills.

Of course were getting somewhere, question is how quickly. I dunno, but earlier I just had a bad feeling of town not doing so well. Might be because of 2 failed lunches, a night with 4 kills and another with 3.

No I'm not. I'm all for voting jcakes. However I think were better served trying to catch a serial killer than mafia? Maybe that doesn't make sense at all to you though, but it feels like the right thing for me.

My thought process for getting confirmed town was the assumption that we have 2 mafia left, and a serial killer (unless we can find a better explanation for all the night kills). We lynch jcakes today, we don't get a mafia or serial killer tomorrow? If the trend keeps up, then we suddenly are a lot fewer people alive, and with a lot of lost information.

As for what CG was trying to protect, is there even a way to figure it out? I can't see one, but then again my view from the phone is rather limited.

 

[korialstraz]

@kestegs: not claiming on a day we have a solid lynch makes a lot of sense. Didn't think about that earlier. With that out of the way, I will place my vote.

Vote: Jcakes

 

[Bad Ash]

I find it pretty hilarious that Zokar watched himself.

Vote: Jcakes

 

[thefranklin]

I find it pretty hilarious that Zokar watched himself.

Vote: Jcakes

He is obviously looking for town power roles.

 

[pharphis]

We aren't really getting anywhere are we? Before I begin I'd like to mention all of this is posted from the phone, so no fancy quoting. Also apologize in advance for spelling errors.

I'd like to bring up a few suggestions. I believe pharphis is on the right track. In fact if the trend of night kills keep up, we should be swing 1 kill tonight. The next night however? If we lynch Jcakes now, we will have got a scum, but how likely is it that Jcakes is the last mafia, and the remaining killers are serial ones? I don't think Jcakes isn't the last mafia, or else there would be no reason for him to withold information. That means even if we lynch Jcakes, mafia can still nk, since nk isn't usually a specific ability, rather It's just q person having to send in the actual kill order (correct me if I'm wrong). That's why I believe its more important to catch a serial killer than a mafia.

Question @everyone: who do you regard as town? Also do we have someone regarded as a confirmed townie? In my eyes there isn't one.

What would you guys think of doing a mass role (and ability) claim? Would it let use us that knowleadge to be able to find a person or two as confirmed town?

I believe BA and Moar are town, and strongly believe Sath was town. (as well as Gwaihir but we have no connections with him so it's moot)
Someone as confirmed town? I don't think so.

 

[thefranklin]

On the first point, you clearly have to be kidding....

On the second point, I did not change your quote. I did not attempt to ridicule you. I asked a serious question. You then mock me.

It's not my fault if you don't like your own words.

You admit to mistakes? I would like to hear what you think is a mistake, because you have been 100% steady in all of your thoughts all game.



You changed my quote in an attempt to ridicule me. Why is that funny and why does that cause you to give up? Grow up.

Hey, most of my argument has already been stated.

1. Z is a watcher. There was already a mafia bodyguard, so they have some power roles.
2. Withholding his targets. He doesn't want to be tracked or found out in any way, like a role that tells someone all of whom was targeted last night.
3. He is still alive, with as many kills as there are, there would have been some 33% chance that Z would have watched one of them (and this number goes up higher if scum have other targeting roles). That risk is too high to let Z live when we all know Cakes is a lynch today.

Vote: JCakes

4. No scum hunting, only role fishing and defensive posting. Within 20 minutes he can post something to my snide remark above, yet has offered nothing all game.
5. He is still alive, ML, Corax, Ank were all killed before a claimed town watcher, hilarious. Plus, do you think any of his watches were successful, especially with Corax and Ank going down?
6. Calling out a watched target, great job. Just trying to find something lamist to put in there.

Well...?



Curious, do you know this somehow or is this just gut feelings?

Sorry, phone posting got messy.

Z, I apologize, I really thought your post was sarcasm, and it got under my skin a bit. And the "butcher" was because you cut the rest of point 1 off, and I thought you were trying to make me look dumb (something I generally don't need help with).

With that said, that is one heck of a rolefish. Were you hoping I said I was a rolecop?

 

[Zokar1]

Was just "fishing" for a way to prove that I am who I say I am, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Kestegs]

Was just "fishing" for a way to prove that I am who I say I am, nothing more nothing less.

So you'd rather prove your own innocence than try to find scum. Got it.

Not that that would have proven anything anyways.

 

[Zokar1]

So you'd rather prove your own innocence than try to find scum. Got it.

Since when are those two things mutually exclusive?

 

[Bad Ash]

Since when are those two things mutually exclusive?

You want to try to put some sense into why a watcher would watch himself? Or is our assumptions pretty spot on.

 

[Kestegs]

You want to try to put some sense into why a watcher would watch himself? Or is our assumptions pretty spot on.

Yes, I'd love to hear that.

 

[Zokar1]

You want to try to put some sense into why a watcher would watch himself? Or is our assumptions pretty spot on.

Based in part on this:

• The Watcher can self watch and see who visits him at night.
  • While this does take away any chance of the watcher catching the mafia visit their kill target (since the watcher, if targeted, would die with his report), this tactic is used in many setups with multiple PRs. If a high profiled watcher thinks he will be visited by multiple PRs, self watching can confirm and clear roles, thus catching mafia in counterclaims instead of visiting the kill.