this is completely wrong. I stated that I could only vote on odd days and I can,t be lynched. What I did not add before the day after was that I can Nked on even nights. I don,t understand why you and Ankeli want to provoke another no lynch day.
I see no reason to doubt FoE as he is hanging himself if his claim is wrong and CG turns out town.
Unvote: pharphis
Vote: Caluin Graye
And here I am! Hercules... yes you read it right, Hercules. That's what my PM says. I didn't google my name as soon as I received my PM, but I have googled it. My thoughts when reading it's the Roman name for Heracles "Damn you TC!!!" >_<
I had a solid town read on Leo and CG. I had a tentative town read on Sathoris. Any one of them could have been a bomb (assuming the bomb scenario in the first place).
I did NOT have a townie read on Solar Ice. In fact, my read was pretty negative. He didn't come out guns blazing. He was relatively passive. He threw up softball questions and didn't follow up on them. He found CG scummy (and voted) for the same post I considered townie. Based on their D1 play, I think the most likely player to trigger a bomb would be Solar Ice. If he would have survived, I would have a tough decision between voting Zokar and voting Solar Ice.
But all that assumes a bomb. While a bomb is probably the most likely source that can cause 4 deaths with one action, causing 4 deaths with that one actions eliminates a whole lot of things: multiple mafia, SK, vigilante, lovers, delayed N1 kill, elite bodyguard, weak doc, hider. Some of those things are much more common than bombs.
I asked myself "If I were mafia, who would I want to kill tonight?" Fred was the best answer to that question. A strong player who I felt was town (his reads closely mirrored mine) and was not likely to be lynched, so not a good a good option for mafia to train on.
As I stated, I suspect that I am responsible for one of the three other deaths. I have no information beyond that to share.
quick thoughts. Skimming via iPhone is horrible. I hope to have Internet restored tomorrow.
If I were alive yesterday, I would have voted Zokar. I find his claim to be pieced together and opportunistic. He gave me vibes on day one, and I see nothing on day two that alters that read.
I still think pharphis is scum. He didn't say or do much yesterday of note, and seems to be playing below the radar. I agree with Moar; he is agreeing a lot and not much else.
I believe Goryani to be town. He knew the lynch was between him or Zokar. By unvoting, he willingly put his own neck on the chopping block. I don't think scum Gory would do that.
Sorry to interrupt the Gory-CG love fest...
I feel that Gory's quoted post is probably the reason for a revive, if the reviver be town. And CG comes in and confirms Gory's towniness. Excellent.
Someone had to have targeted CG or whomever CG protected, and I doubt he protected a town, and there was two extra kills in spite of that (FoE did not return "Elite Bodyguard". And none of the extra kills appeared to be off the "helping the town" variety.
I was told that he is Cronos, Mafia Bodyguard.
I am inclined to vote CG but I would like to hear from him before doing so.
I disagree.
Well, this is conveniet.
Thanks for the kind words CG, however:
Vote: CG
I am Ares.
I would describe my role as a sort of JOAT. Amongst other one shot abilities I am one time lynch immune and (was) a one time coroner - hence my questions about reads on dead people yesterday. I have more abilities, but since knowing more details shouldn't benifit town in anyway, I'm gonna keep them to myself for know. I decided to use the coroner ability last night, partly because of our complete lack of information, partly because of this quote by what I thought was a dying man:
I had a real hard time deciding on which of the 4 kills from N2 to decide on. I ended up on CG, somewhat randomly, somewhat because of the answers I received to my question yesterday.
I was told that he is Cronos, Mafia Bodyguard.
I can believe that! teehee
Vote: Caluin Graye
heh everybody seems to have such a hard time with phone posting hehe
I am inclined to vote CG but I would like to hear from him before doing so.
+1 to Gory/CG connection.
I also agree on the last bit. That also strongly suggests several anti-town fractions, as a vigi would most likely have come forward if he had a succesful scum hit. This however, still leaves two kills unaccounted for, and only a single NK both N1 and last night also looks weird if we assume several anti-town fractions.
If we are to believe CGs claim that he had no access to a dead thread, this means that one of these two cases are relevant:
1. there is no dead thread. seems unlikely to me, never seen it before.
2. CG didn't get to visit the dead thread as TC knew there was a chance he would be revived. If this is the case it sounds to me that the resurrector is also anti-town (dead players from that fraction does not go to the dead thread, as if their teammate and resurrector is still alive they have the possibility to be revived). This sounds like a quite powerful anti-town fraction (several PRs - at least resurrector and bodyguard), but given the also quite powerful roleclaims we've had (especially myself and moar) it does not sound too unlikely to me.
We never used to have dead threads at all when I started playing.
And is phone posting really that bad? I make 90% of all my posts from my phone!
That theory is constructed solely based on my own experience. I also haven't been around for a while, so stuff may have changed as well.
well, with 30+k posts from the phone then, you might be a bit more experienced than... well, everybody :badteeth:
What makes you think that if you're pro-town you'll be alive tomorrow?
@Zokar,
Do you plan to claim by the end of the day, or not until a later time?
From a mafia point of view, this is a good way of faking a watcher ability, without the chance of being caught.
So, what you're saying is you would want me to give out information that makes it easier for mafia? It's no coincidence that the people who push hard for me releasing information are also the people I've had scum reads on....Your move would be a good one if you were trusted or confirmed town. As it stands it just makes you look more scummy.
I guess I ninja'd you, but I'll restate it anyway, I don't think there is anything CG can say to save himself, so I went ahead and voted for him. I had wanted to see if he would try to save his neck and maybe he would slip up and give something but I find that highly unlikely. But that was my thought when I was half asleepWhy? Do you know of a good reason he might have up his sleeve? Or are you just still holding out hope?
At this point, nothing. There is still some push for my lynch, so I can see myself dead either by town or if that dies down in the next couple days, then by mafia. But why the threat? Everything you post makes me think scum and this post even more so.
I'll repeat what I said before, if I get any results of any nature that have any relevance to anything that gets said or done then I will be vocal in my actions.
yet another person high up on my radar. if I were mafia, I would have not only not claimed at all, I would have probably kept my mouth shut as much as possible and just pass the watcher info along in the mafia thread, why even bother coming out with anything at all? It's not like I would need to if I were mafia.. your argument just like CG's and Ankeli feel week, shallow and transparent.
So, what you're saying is you would want me to give out information that makes it easier for mafia? It's no coincidence that the people who push hard for me releasing information are also the people I've had scum reads on....
I guess I ninja'd you, but I'll restate it anyway, I don't think there is anything CG can say to save himself, so I went ahead and voted for him. I had wanted to see if he would try to save his neck and maybe he would slip up and give something but I find that highly unlikely. But that was my thought when I was half asleep![]()
Roleclaiming and claiming targets is always a catch 22 if you aren't confirmed town. It reminds me a lot of our last game. The issue here is that you might not be the watcher at all, but stole that claim after a kill. I don't typically associate the watcher role with mafia, but I guess it could be. I think if you're indeed the watcher that you are town.
If/When I actually get lucky with the right target at the right time then we can settle this. Until then... I guess I'll live at the edge of death... until I get pushed over.
It's hard to choose which scumbum to lynch tomorrow, you, Goryani or Moar. How does it make you feel that most, if not your entire team is pegged and lined up for the ol' hanger.
I had a real hard time deciding on which of the 4 kills from N2 to decide on. I ended up on CG, somewhat randomly, somewhat because of the answers I received to my question yesterday.
I was told that he is Cronos, Mafia Bodyguard.