Create Your Own Role Mafia game

Might as well go for the tie with Sathoris just in case. I won't take the lead cause I aint no spammer. But after a triple post, why not go for the quad?


if only i could edit my previous post.....

you do know that all of that could have gone into one post.........
 
if only i could edit my previous post.....

you do know that all of that could have gone into one post.........

trying to get me to edit a post? Scum points. And now you goaded me into more than Sath. Might as well fill this with something useful then:

I created the Psychic role. Dunno why, just seemed like a cool quasi role with lots of fun abilities (some of which Gory helped form of course). Defintely realize that I am not the only one who thought out of the box.

The Moon and The Sun abilities were in for competitive balance, cause otherwise it would be an unfair advantage for the town or the mafia one way or the other.
 
Think about your last game sath, everyone had to claim thier role and there was no way for the mafia to hide it.

I will draw up a table before the next day starts, i am happy to keep track of the roles.

Exactly, in that game there was a verification in the stories so you couldn't lie about your target. In this game however all it takes is the mafia bus driver to lie about one target and your table is compromised. But go for it if you've got the energy.
 
trying to get me to edit a post? Scum points. And now you goaded me into more than Sath. Might as well fill this with something useful then:

I created the Psychic role. Dunno why, just seemed like a cool quasi role with lots of fun abilities (some of which Gory helped form of course). Defintely realize that I am not the only one who thought out of the box.

The Moon and The Sun abilities were in for competitive balance, cause otherwise it would be an unfair advantage for the town or the mafia one way or the other.

Might aswell keep you into my sights then.

Loving the spammer role already, so much wifom.
 
Mal and Sath are front runners for the can o spam IMO. And yes, I think this is possibly the most important role because we can very very easily be used by scum to avoid a lynch without us knowing they are scum.

Well if you want to lynch someone scummy and he's spamming a lot I'm sure you can outspam him, and if you don't there always the next day where he isn't the spammer.
 
No votes yet? Aren't we allowed to? I am going to place one.

Vote: Gwaihir

Reasoning isn't the strongest, but its the post I quoted. He could easily have been making a generic bland blah blah statement, but if we want to read into everything that people wrote, this elicits a vote. I know I am town and was seeing at how quickly the town can lose a lot of members with the roles. Gwaihir took the opposite approach to the roles and noted a lot of ways for people to survive...survive his ttacks maybe?

Mal and Sath are front runners for the can o spam IMO. And yes, I think this is possibly the most important role because we can very very easily be used by scum to avoid a lynch without us knowing they are scum.

I noticed the exact opposite of you - I don't really see a ton of ways townies die quicker than the normal pace. What makes me nervous is I saw a ton of ways for mafia to keep their players from being lynched and get townies lynched instead.

From the quote, my thought was we lynch the last laugh, get his alignment, and then lynch the next person to get him back if he was townie - basically confirming a townie or mafia. Upon rereading, that doesn't work as we do not get the alignment of the person killed.

And really, spammer scares you the most? It can be pretty easily combated, and is relatively obvious. The one that scares me the most is definitely the kingmaker, and by far the largest reason that I want claims the day after - if we don't, mafia can redirect a lynch anytime they receive the kingmaker (until they have 1 person), as well as any time a townie accidentally gives them the role.
 
Another question for you Gory, Mime mimicing a kingmaker would hand out a second kingmaker PM, correct? If both are used, how do they resolve?
 
Another question for you Gory, Mime mimicing a kingmaker would hand out a second kingmaker PM, correct? If both are used, how do they resolve?

I'll keep with the spirit of the mimic. The king created by the real kingmaker will be the real king while the king created by the mimicked kingmaker will be the mimicked king. The real king's actions will always be faster and take priority. The mimicked king can still alter the lynch target but only if the real king does not submit such an alteration.

The same process would determine a real Paris and mimicked Paris choosing a BFF. The real Paris' choice would be chosen, unless the real Paris didn't submit a BFF, then the mimicked Paris would choose the BFF.
 
I noticed the exact opposite of you - I don't really see a ton of ways townies die quicker than the normal pace. What makes me nervous is I saw a ton of ways for mafia to keep their players from being lynched and get townies lynched instead.

From the quote, my thought was we lynch the last laugh, get his alignment, and then lynch the next person to get him back if he was townie - basically confirming a townie or mafia. Upon rereading, that doesn't work as we do not get the alignment of the person killed.

And really, spammer scares you the most? It can be pretty easily combated, and is relatively obvious. The one that scares me the most is definitely the kingmaker, and by far the largest reason that I want claims the day after - if we don't, mafia can redirect a lynch anytime they receive the kingmaker (until they have 1 person), as well as any time a townie accidentally gives them the role.

the last laugh's alignment is hidden... sorry
 
A bit late to the party so there will be some quoted from the first pages.

4. PMs

  • The first rule of forum mafia is that you don’t talk about PMs.
  • The second rule of forum mafia is that you don’t talk about PMs.
  • If you have something to say or ask, then say it or ask it without referring to or mentioning PMs.
  • Referring to information contained within a PM is OK. Quoting that information is not!

This is why I think it was extremly BM to talk about the first alignment PM. Just my personal opinion on games and following their rules.

Oh wow. Some people sure got creative. Some of the combinations here are nuts. How on earth does a mime/Forensic Scientist work? Do each have a set of samples?

My first thought was to try to mimic last game with open information - people claiming what they get ASAP. But that just gives the mafia a good way of getting rid of targets they don't like being out there. So my next thought is that we should claim roles and actions the following day, to make sure that mafia are forced to stay honest with their actions. It gives more grey area about night kills, but doesn't hand mafia all the info they could want.

I think this could very well be the way to go about, but thinking about the day-roles, I'm not that sure. Maybe we should not claim before the first 24 hours of th day phase are over to deny mafia of a chance to use what we post on the time sensitive roles?

i think this post basically confirms that it was you...

also, we dont have to have everyone spamming, we can just have a designated spammer who will do the job well to negate the spammer role. Good job for me maybe? :P

I don't like your spammer comment at all. You mean we should have just one of us spamming always the most? I take that comment to not be really serious. But again you smell scum right out of the starting block.

Yes, let's go through the actions of thirteen complicated roles that all affect each other. I'm not waisting half of our day phase.

I don't see this as time wasting as it will make the mafia to have to claim their roles. They'll have to think about how to claim and what to say. That hightens the chance for us to catch a lie.

Story time with flubby? :cloud9:
*cuddles up on the bearrug next to the fireplace with a mug of hot cocoa* :cloud9:

What does it matter what the town talks about so long as it helps us make an informed lynch? Why "waste" a half a day phase talking about this particular topic instead of wasting half a day phase talking about some other topic? What makes the topic of past roles and actions less important to talk about than, say, if kestegs used the word 'we' instead of 'they' in one of his posts?

Agreed.

I never said I was against role claiming, although as I said you won't catch anyone in a lie that way. However my original response was to Ankeli who said that we could deduce what actions took place and further down the road catch mafia in some lies. Which would imply keep track of every role everyone has, every action everyone took only to hope that we catch someone in a lie later. Which would be a hell of a lot of work (my half a day phase remark) to catch something that likely anyone is only to catch if he knows exactly what actions happened when they did which is very complicated given all the roles.

I'm pretty sure someone will keep track of this. Most of you guys seem to do it and I will be taking notes as well for this game. Haven't done it before and it showed to be a disadvantage. I have more time for this game, so I'll see if I can keep a nice and tidy list.

I noticed the exact opposite of you - I don't really see a ton of ways townies die quicker than the normal pace. What makes me nervous is I saw a ton of ways for mafia to keep their players from being lynched and get townies lynched instead.

And really, spammer scares you the most? It can be pretty easily combated, and is relatively obvious. The one that scares me the most is definitely the kingmaker, and by far the largest reason that I want claims the day after - if we don't, mafia can redirect a lynch anytime they receive the kingmaker (until they have 1 person), as well as any time a townie accidentally gives them the role.

I agree with this comment. I don't like the kingmaker to be in the hands of mafia at all, but here's where the claims come in. Somebody will have to claim kingmaker the day after since we have seen the role used. This will give us a good chance at identifying 2 mafia.
 
the last laugh's alignment is hidden... sorry

Yeah, got that on my second read through, was pretty disappointed.

I think this could very well be the way to go about, but thinking about the day-roles, I'm not that sure. Maybe we should not claim before the first 24 hours of th day phase are over to deny mafia of a chance to use what we post on the time sensitive roles?

In my opinion, we should not claim when we still have the roles - would allow mafia to kill off roles they don't like and avoid those that can prevent them from killing. I proposed the following

Get day 1 role
Day 1, day 1 powers used
Lynch
Night 1, night 1 powers used
roles randomized, get day 2 role
Day 2, day 2 powers used and day 1 powers revealed

I don't see this as time wasting as it will make the mafia to have to claim their roles. They'll have to think about how to claim and what to say. That hightens the chance for us to catch a lie.

I'm pretty sure someone will keep track of this. Most of you guys seem to do it and I will be taking notes as well for this game. Haven't done it before and it showed to be a disadvantage. I have more time for this game, so I'll see if I can keep a nice and tidy list.

Might work that we catch a mafia in a lie, which would be a huge bonus. I think it is more likely that we are able to keep mafia more honest than if we didn't have any reveals.

Actually, typing that made me realize I made a mistake. Should have kept my mouth shut today and proposed this tomorrow, making it more likely to catch a mafia in a lie after seeing last night's actions.

*cuddles up on the bearrug next to the fireplace with a mug of hot cocoa* :cloud9:

You have a bear rug? :worship::worship:
Need to get me one of those.
 
In my opinion, we should not claim when we still have the roles - would allow mafia to kill off roles they don't like and avoid those that can prevent them from killing. I proposed the following

Get day 1 role
Day 1, day 1 powers used
Lynch
Night 1, night 1 powers used
roles randomized, get day 2 role
Day 2, day 2 powers used and day 1 powers revealed



Might work that we catch a mafia in a lie, which would be a huge bonus. I think it is more likely that we are able to keep mafia more honest than if we didn't have any reveals.

Actually, typing that made me realize I made a mistake. Should have kept my mouth shut today and proposed this tomorrow, making it more likely to catch a mafia in a lie after seeing last night's actions.



You have a bear rug? :worship::worship:
Need to get me one of those.

Trying to twist my words already? I agreed with your comment which was saying claiming the following day was your suggestion..

flubb has the rug. He insists it's a bear.
 
Actually, typing that made me realize I made a mistake. Should have kept my mouth shut today and proposed this tomorrow, making it more likely to catch a mafia in a lie after seeing last night's actions.

You seem sure enough that you would be still be around Tomorrow to make your proposal, to state that you made a mistake in making it Today...
 
DAY 1

PLAYER POSTS SO FAR

kestegs 6
flubbucket 4
Pyrotechnician 1
Solar Ice 4
Sathoris 7
Bad Ash 3
Gwaihir 5
Ankeli 2
MartinLong 4
Caluin Graye 2
Malevolent 5
Moar 1
thefranklin 4



i would definately say that from a quality of posts perspective that kestegs has the spammer role, but sath could just be very good at hiding his spam....

Woot! Town points for you!!!!

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I am the spammer. Always have been, always will be.

I also find your fascination with this role troubling. There is a much higher chance that a townie has the role than a mafia, so unless the person we are trying to lynch is spamming it up I see no reason to try to stop them from fulfilling their spam destiny.

On the pm revealing: that's not really against the rules. And why is this an issue at all? The town now has more info. The town now knows what the previous 4 mafia knew. I honestly think that gory should have just made that info public since 4 people already had it. (no offense intended)
 
On the pm revealing: that's not really against the rules. And why is this an issue at all? The town now has more info. The town now knows what the previous 4 mafia knew. I honestly think that gory should have just made that info public since 4 people already had it. (no offense intended)

For me it is a break of the rules. The rules say you shall not say what info you got in a PM stating that it was from a PM. This is very much my personality coming in here. I always play by the rules and consider them to be very serious. Otherwise why should I play? Yes, the info of 4 mafia is probably good to know for the town but in my understanding it was obtained the wrong way. In a cheating way and it does spoil the game a bit for me. I don't want to know that there are most likely 4 mafia just because the host made a mistake. Feels terribly wrong to me.
 
For me it is a break of the rules. The rules say you shall not say what info you got in a PM stating that it was from a PM. This is very much my personality coming in here. I always play by the rules and consider them to be very serious. Otherwise why should I play? Yes, the info of 4 mafia is probably good to know for the town but in my understanding it was obtained the wrong way. In a cheating way and it does spoil the game a bit for me. I don't want to know that there are most likely 4 mafia just because the host made a mistake. Feels terribly wrong to me.

I see your point, but it's up to gory, and he obviously isn't bothered (at least didn't say so or modkill mal) so we should move on and accept it.

Actually, after re reading those rules are a bit confusing , the 4th one seems to take precedence over the other 3, and it makes it sound okay.
 
I think this could very well be the way to go about, but thinking about the day-roles, I'm not that sure. Maybe we should not claim before the first 24 hours of th day phase are over to deny mafia of a chance to use what we post on the time sensitive roles?

Trying to twist my words already? I agreed with your comment which was saying claiming the following day was your suggestion..

Hmm, I thought you were misinterpreting my suggestion, but maybe I misread. What info from day one claims could be used during the first 24 hours of day 2?

You seem sure enough that you would be still be around Tomorrow to make your proposal, to state that you made a mistake in making it Today...

Interesting. Not sure if I smell rolefishing or scumhunting with that?

Looking at odds on first day deaths ( ), I think it reasonably likely I will be around tomorrow. And even if I don't make it, there is a decent likelihood someone else would (or had) come up with the same idea I presented, and by waiting until tomorrow, it would give us a slightly better chance to catch mafia in a lie.
 
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