Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

[RlyehExiled]

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Just a note, the story doesn't confirm or deny they killed each other, the "realible" witness was implied to be drunk.

yeah I'm pretty sleep deprived right now, so not making sense.

 

[Kestegs]

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Wow, busy night for sure.

It doesn't seem like a prostitute could actually cause a kill, but maybe I don't understand the roll.

I notice that Val died of poison, the same thing that Asrrin died of on N1. The others have been different styles from what I remember.

I think that Laarz should fit into the same voting boat as Gwaihir and Val, as he did say he would vote for Korial but wanted to wait for the claim as we had plenty of time. I think that is the same thing I would have done in his situation.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

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Well this has been an interesting turn of events, regarding your question Goryani, the best I can come up with for a role that sacrifices itself is the suicide bomber, that would explain the shared death scenario, but since RE said that they may or may not be connected I'm not sure. No idea what the temptress does as I don't think I can line it up with any of the roles based on the name.

Also, for today's story, on the night the moon was blocked by the sun all night actions were blocked. Refering to the similarity thing of the story I'm willing to bet that since the sun is blocked by the moon all day actions are blocked or at least something to that effect would make sense.

 

[Goryani]

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Hmm. No vote from him on Day1 or Day3 as far as I can tell, and a distancing vote on Day2 for Autti which happened to go the distance ...

Who is "him" in this comment?

Noodle has died (Temptress) <--------------- And you wonder why I'm always trying to catch a peek down the blouse?

Did the boobies mesmerize or manipulate you?

I Val was an innocent.

Investigation result?

Also, who was the role thief yesterday?

Please read the posts I listed yesterday.

Have you used your day time investigation paladin?

Yes. I hinted at the results in post 573. I announced the results in post 583 and 636. I talked about the results in post 591, 599 and 617.

 

[coju]

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Investigation result, yes. I'll look back over them. But, since you mentioned it, iirc you had your role stolen, which made you the role thief?

 

[Caluin Graye]

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I unvoted Val as you can plainly see and would have voted korial,but Val swooped in with 4 hours to go and locked him. On Autti I was working working and unable to leave to get on a computer.

I felt Val was trying to confuse things and thought it was scummy.

I don't question the unvote: I question the original vote on Val. I also question the lack of vote on Korial; it's easy to say "Yeah, I will totally do that / I would have totally done that", it's a completely different thing to actually do it. Money where your mouth is, as it were.

I Val was an innocent.

You saw Korial as innocent too. Why should we trust this result?


The following is conjecture.

Autti was a Dark Psion.

Korialstraz was a Chaos Sorcerer.

So obviously the scum team are evil 'classes' (for lack of a better term) in a fantasy setting. "Well, duh" I hear you say. I look at the three who died and compare their 'classes' to the others, and Ankeli stands out as somewhat 'evil'. Typically, a necromancer is seen as evil. Martyr I perceive as a good guy. Temptress is difficult to say, but I'd lean towards more scum than town.

 

[Gwaihir]

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Gwaihir; you voted for Skjolde but not for Autti. Granted you voted for Korial, but that was after a cop claimed him guilty. I find this less suspicious that Laarz, but still strange enough to comment on and ask for your explanation.

I posted that I would vote for Autti, but that I didn't want to lock him with several hours left in the day. Checked back in with about an hour to go and he was locked.

Gwahir, what did you do on your visit to Noodle last night?

Failing apparently. Guess this means it is role claim time.

I am the missionary, special win conl.

I hand out a holy ward every night, but they don't actually do anything.
I win if I am alive and if everyone else alive has one of my wards.

Targets:
FoE
Val - blocked
Noodle - dead

So yeah, I am not exactly on a roll at the moment, especially as the only one out there is in the hands of a claimed cop. Don't see that lasting (no offense FoE). As for why I have been targeting who I have, mostly based on survival the past few games.

 

[Kestegs]

That's a terrible roll. Nearly impossible to win with I'd say.

 

[Bad Ash]

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Just a note, the story doesn't confirm or deny they killed each other, the "realible" witness was implied to be drunk.

yeah I'm pretty sleep deprived right now, so not making sense.

Wow, busy night for sure.

It doesn't seem like a prostitute could actually cause a kill, but maybe I don't understand the roll.

I notice that Val died of poison, the same thing that Asrrin died of on N1. The others have been different styles from what I remember.

I think that Laarz should fit into the same voting boat as Gwaihir and Val, as he did say he would vote for Korial but wanted to wait for the claim as we had plenty of time. I think that is the same thing I would have done in his situation.

I posted that I would vote for Autti, but that I didn't want to lock him with several hours left in the day. Checked back in with about an hour to go and he was locked.



Failing apparently. Guess this means it is role claim time.

I am the missionary, special win conl.

I hand out a holy ward every night, but they don't actually do anything.
I win if I am alive and if everyone else alive has one of my wards.

Targets:
FoE
Val - blocked
Noodle - dead

So yeah, I am not exactly on a roll at the moment, especially as the only one out there is in the hands of a claimed cop. Don't see that lasting (no offense FoE). As for why I have been targeting who I have, mostly based on survival the past few games.

Vote: Gwahir

I dont buy it frankly. You targetted Noodle and he ended up dead. As stated last game my rule on coincidences is that they usually arent such.

Since I outed myself either way, I am a rogue. I can watch or track someone each night. Tried tracking Gwahir both nights because I was suspicious of him, was blocked night 2 and he targetted Noodle last night. I planted the word tracking in my last post of the day yesterday in case I did die.

The holy ward role is an interesting claim, but I just dont think it would be statistically possible barring ungodly luck.

You are my choice for lynch today.

Him or Coju. I dont like he was proven wrong about korials innocence and is now trying to withhold information until he hears other info. If I was goryani I would not answer his questions.

And FoE is still a legit cop as far as we know, let us know if you get anything interesting.

 

[coju]

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I don't question the unvote: I question the original vote on Val. I also question the lack of vote on Korial; it's easy to say "Yeah, I will totally do that / I would have totally done that", it's a completely different thing to actually do it. Money where your mouth is, as it were.



You saw Korial as innocent too. Why should we trust this result?


The following is conjecture.

Autti was a Dark Psion.

Korialstraz was a Chaos Sorcerer.

So obviously the scum team are evil 'classes' (for lack of a better term) in a fantasy setting. "Well, duh" I hear you say. I look at the three who died and compare their 'classes' to the others, and Ankeli stands out as somewhat 'evil'. Typically, a necromancer is seen as evil. Martyr I perceive as a good guy. Temptress is difficult to say, but I'd lean towards more scum than town.

The only thingi can think if as to why koral popped innocent was the n1s investigation results were opposite. from the pre game story of, "unable to tell friend from foe"

 

[Bad Ash]

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I guess FoE could answer if he did receive anything. Kinda blinded myself to that part (accidentally).

Would like to hear a lot from him

 

[coju]

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Oh, my previous role was Monk, (paraphrasing) I could see through the evil and see the persons alignment (or smthn to that extent) . I was basically a cop.

 

[coju]

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Added: I wasn't afraid of the night.

 

[Goryani]

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I am the missionary, special win conl.

I hand out a holy ward every night, but they don't actually do anything.
I win if I am alive and if everyone else alive has one of my wards.

That's quite the difficult win con. Survivor plus you have to night visit each person remaining in the game - successfully. If there was a blowout by either side, you would essentially lose because not enough nights occuring to visit everyone remaining. Have you been playing to help the town, hurt the town, or make the game go long?

I dont buy it frankly. You targetted Noodle and he ended up dead. As stated last game my rule on coincidences is that they usually arent such.

Do you think Ankeli played any part in Noodle's death?

Since I outed myself either way, I am a rogue. I can watch or track someone each night. Tried tracking Gwahir both nights because I was suspicious of him, was blocked night 2 and he targetted Noodle last night. I planted the word tracking in my last post of the day yesterday in case I did die.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how curious were you about using watcher ability targeting me on N1? Using watcher on me or Ankeli N2?

 

[Gwaihir]

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That's quite the difficult win con. Survivor plus you have to night visit each person remaining in the game - successfully. If there was a blowout by either side, you would essentially lose because not enough nights occuring to visit everyone remaining. Have you been playing to help the town, hurt the town, or make the game go long?

It does seem pretty difficult, but hey you play the hand you get dealt. I must admit it is a very interesting role to play, as I am just trying to guess who will be around at the end of the game. Also I am praying as hard as I can that the repeat foreshadowed is not another global roleblock. Also, at least I don't have to survive to the end of the game, only until everyone has my wards, so not a complete survivor.

Other point you make: I play to my wincon. For this role that means 2 things - survive and hand out wards. To survive, I have been trying to play as townie as I can with scum hunting and voting for people I find suspicious, and hope this means the town doesn't lynch me. On the other hand, I am highly unlikely to vote for anyone I have given a ward to. Luckily so far that is FoE with a cop claim that was backed up by a mafia lynch.

 

[FredOfErik]

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Haven' read the whole thread, will do in two hours or so.

I can confirm I have received a holy ward, that doesn't do anything.

Longer post will follow later.

 

[flubbucket1]

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I found this on the Internets...

I don't post this to confirm Noodle's townieness/scumminess, simply to shed light on what a temptress does. I'm sure there are Mafia and town versions of this role.

Temptress

• Day: You vote to eliminate scum.
• Night: You may send the name of one person to tempt and one victim to the moderator via PM.
  • A tempted person is compelled to vote to lynch the victim on the following day.
  • A tempted person may not tell anyone that they have been tempted.
  • A tempted person is compelled to do everything they can to ensure the victim is lynched on the following day

 

[FredOfErik]

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coju: you're saying that you got your role stolen?
Gory: can you confirm the above?

Well, I'll make a list..

People I consider confirmed town (/not scum):

- Myself
- Goryani
- Gwaihir

People I think are town:

- coju (due to my investigation result. Still having doubts though, considering the whole wrong result thing)
- BA (I trust his role claim, and he was after Korial from D1)
- Glib (voted first for Autti D2, and also voted for him D1 - could be that he wanted to distance him self from him, though I don't think that's likely)

that leaves:

- Pyro (D1: voted skjolde, D2: late vote on Autti, D3: voted Sath and Korial after my claim)
- Kegs (D1: me and Skjolde, D2: 4th vote on Autti, D3: Val and Korial)
- Loz (D1: Skjolde, D2: Glib and 7th on Autti, D3: didn't vote)
- Sath (D1: Glib, Asrrin, Gory, D2: Ank, D3: Val, Korial)
- Laarz (D1: Skjolde, D2: no vote, D3: Val)
- CG (D1: Skjolde, D2: 6th vote on Autti, D3: Korial)

My top suspects would be:

- Sath: pretty much ignored the hunt against Autti and (before my claim) Korial. Instead he was aggressive towards Val and Ank, who I both think were townies.
- Laarz: Also not particularly aggresive towards any of the scum we've lynched. I mostly just have a bad feeling against him.
- Loz: I don't like his vote on Glib today, as I see a lot of better targets. Also, his late vote on Autti nerves me.

Sath is my favourite for now.

Vote: Sathoris

I'm gonna hang on to my investigation power for now and use it when I've got some posts to decide from. That is if I can use it. Pyro's idea about day actions being blocked today seems possible.

 

[FredOfErik]

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Vote: Sathoris

 

[coju]

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Yes, my role did get stolen.
Glib, was the temptress' role.... How did you find that out? Are you one ?