Caluin Graye
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
You don't wish I was a vet? :weep:
My feelings, they are the hurt.
You don't wish I was a vet? :weep:
My feelings, they are the hurt.
Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
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CoolguyBad
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Wait, can you elaborate on who you're referring to? Krazey or Cal? Or both?
And sorry, not much I can do but rely on my instincts at this point-.-
Wait, can you elaborate on who you're referring to? Krazey or Cal? Or both?
And sorry, not much I can do but rely on my instincts at this point-.-
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No because I am trying to pin you and you've played a helluva game. The reason I wish CbG was a vet is because games have gone down like this very quickly. You focus too much on one person thinking one thing and then bam the games over due to a different faction.
I would ask Zarni not to lock me yet. If CbG remains unconvinced by tomorrow morning then we will see
No because I am trying to pin you and you've played a helluva game. The reason I wish CbG was a vet is because games have gone down like this very quickly. You focus too much on one person thinking one thing and then bam the games over due to a different faction.
I would ask Zarni not to lock me yet. If CbG remains unconvinced by tomorrow morning then we will see
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Um, Cal. He blatantly talked about his role and the potential freeing of asrrin. Only the SK would know that and he tries to play it off like we all thought the same thing. He has asrrin trapped in his closet. We kill Cal and according to him asrrin is released, we lynch asrrin immediately and the game is over.
It is scary to think of asrrin being released but the fact that he let it slip up that this was even a possibility is ridiculous, because he knows it to be true being the serial killer.
Um, Cal. He blatantly talked about his role and the potential freeing of asrrin. Only the SK would know that and he tries to play it off like we all thought the same thing. He has asrrin trapped in his closet. We kill Cal and according to him asrrin is released, we lynch asrrin immediately and the game is over.
It is scary to think of asrrin being released but the fact that he let it slip up that this was even a possibility is ridiculous, because he knows it to be true being the serial killer.
CoolguyBad
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Uhhh, actually, that's exactly what I was thinking too. I thought we already discussed this when Leo (I believe) was kidnapped. I already stated on that day that I believed if we lynched the SK, we would find and save Leo. It seems like an obvious game-play element. If we lynch the SK, and the person doesn't go free (which seems like a possibility you're trying to suggest), then what's the point of extending an inevitable death until day's end? I doubt Uraj would make the game that uninteresting=P
But I actually thought of something that would be the town's pitfall:
If BA turns out to be SK and lynching you releases Asrrin, we would pretty much auto-lose if Cal and Asrrin and both mafia and I fail to protect on the next night.
Uhhh, actually, that's exactly what I was thinking too. I thought we already discussed this when Leo (I believe) was kidnapped. I already stated on that day that I believed if we lynched the SK, we would find and save Leo. It seems like an obvious game-play element. If we lynch the SK, and the person doesn't go free (which seems like a possibility you're trying to suggest), then what's the point of extending an inevitable death until day's end? I doubt Uraj would make the game that uninteresting=P
But I actually thought of something that would be the town's pitfall:
If BA turns out to be SK and lynching you releases Asrrin, we would pretty much auto-lose if Cal and Asrrin and both mafia and I fail to protect on the next night.
Caluin Graye
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That would be suggesting that I'm partners with Asrrin. The guy I ratted out visiting TC on night two. The guy I named in the attack of Ivan. The guy I pushed hard to get lynched two days ago. The guy I would've tried lynching yesterday had I not seen Sathoris kill TC.
That would be suggesting that I'm partners with Asrrin. The guy I ratted out visiting TC on night two. The guy I named in the attack of Ivan. The guy I pushed hard to get lynched two days ago. The guy I would've tried lynching yesterday had I not seen Sathoris kill TC.
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
Fair enough. Dont want to sleep on it in case Zarni locks me in my sleep so Ill throw out my last proposition to you because I am annoyed at Cal.
I am mafia. Roleblocker mafia to be exact. My teammates are Sath, Techno, and Asrrin. Asrrin was a redirector not the poison doctor, thats why he targeted TC, wasnt to kill him (iirc)
Uraj had Marahumm send out a note saying there were 5 mafia members left.
it was us 4 + Noodle who was the mafia traitor. We didnt KNOW he was the traitor or I woulda NKed him lickity split.
Laarz was a vigilante cop btw, that wasnt a lie cal mason part obv. was. Also, would I have voted for sath? Nah, but I wasn't home to do so. Was about 2 minutes late. Dont think I've ever lied about not having access to a comp and refuse to do so.
ANYWAY ZARNI AND CBG If you guys are town you seriously have a bigger threat than me if KI and Cal are grouped togther. I am not sure of the possibility of this, but considering how I was tag teamed pretty badly today, I am starting to think its a real possibility.
Ankeli was vanilla townie just like he said, he wasnt the SK. Asrrin was my mafia buddy.
I am being completely genuine with you that I would rather see the town win than a SK or a SK tag team combo and at this point it is just a guessing game.
lynch me, 4 players left, its 50/50 between KI and Cal and if youre wrong your best chance is a stale mate IF THEY ARENT together. If they are its game over.
Keep me alive, lynch whichever of the 2 you prefer (if you are scared of asrrin returning that would be KI, but seriously, he is on the dead players list and I think is impossible unless the serial killer wants to come out and prove me wrong) then let me NK the other, then you and Zarni team up, lynch me, and win the game.
I am 99.9% certain Zarni is town. He doesn't say things like he has said without meaning it. Is it cheap? Yea, but its truthful.
I would say its a 10% chance that KI and Cal are a team (their abilities are true so theyd hav to switch off and it would explain KI "working" on new items) and again if they are its game over. I am the absolute last mafia of my group and I will swear on that one.
All the info I told about Cal today I stand by and am annoyed at it getting ignored but it was cool you guys stuck to your guns, but I am offering to work together to get rid of em if you want to. I really REALLY dont want to be lynched nd read that the game is over which is a real possibilty.
Look at the power roles of the town and tell me its impossible that they are an anti-town team. Team up with your known enemy to kill the unknown ones cause I can help.
Scenarios: As long as you protect yourself there is no fear of it. I wont nk Zarni and even if I did you and KI would team up to kill me the next day (or cal if you want to lynch KI)
Doubtful you'll go for it, but I'd think about it because it could be your only chance at winning the game. You seriously could be losing the game by lynching the last mafia.
Fair enough. Dont want to sleep on it in case Zarni locks me in my sleep so Ill throw out my last proposition to you because I am annoyed at Cal.
I am mafia. Roleblocker mafia to be exact. My teammates are Sath, Techno, and Asrrin. Asrrin was a redirector not the poison doctor, thats why he targeted TC, wasnt to kill him (iirc)
Uraj had Marahumm send out a note saying there were 5 mafia members left.
it was us 4 + Noodle who was the mafia traitor. We didnt KNOW he was the traitor or I woulda NKed him lickity split.
Laarz was a vigilante cop btw, that wasnt a lie cal mason part obv. was. Also, would I have voted for sath? Nah, but I wasn't home to do so. Was about 2 minutes late. Dont think I've ever lied about not having access to a comp and refuse to do so.
ANYWAY ZARNI AND CBG If you guys are town you seriously have a bigger threat than me if KI and Cal are grouped togther. I am not sure of the possibility of this, but considering how I was tag teamed pretty badly today, I am starting to think its a real possibility.
Ankeli was vanilla townie just like he said, he wasnt the SK. Asrrin was my mafia buddy.
I am being completely genuine with you that I would rather see the town win than a SK or a SK tag team combo and at this point it is just a guessing game.
lynch me, 4 players left, its 50/50 between KI and Cal and if youre wrong your best chance is a stale mate IF THEY ARENT together. If they are its game over.
Keep me alive, lynch whichever of the 2 you prefer (if you are scared of asrrin returning that would be KI, but seriously, he is on the dead players list and I think is impossible unless the serial killer wants to come out and prove me wrong) then let me NK the other, then you and Zarni team up, lynch me, and win the game.
I am 99.9% certain Zarni is town. He doesn't say things like he has said without meaning it. Is it cheap? Yea, but its truthful.
I would say its a 10% chance that KI and Cal are a team (their abilities are true so theyd hav to switch off and it would explain KI "working" on new items) and again if they are its game over. I am the absolute last mafia of my group and I will swear on that one.
All the info I told about Cal today I stand by and am annoyed at it getting ignored but it was cool you guys stuck to your guns, but I am offering to work together to get rid of em if you want to. I really REALLY dont want to be lynched nd read that the game is over which is a real possibilty.
Look at the power roles of the town and tell me its impossible that they are an anti-town team. Team up with your known enemy to kill the unknown ones cause I can help.
Scenarios: As long as you protect yourself there is no fear of it. I wont nk Zarni and even if I did you and KI would team up to kill me the next day (or cal if you want to lynch KI)
Doubtful you'll go for it, but I'd think about it because it could be your only chance at winning the game. You seriously could be losing the game by lynching the last mafia.
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
If you have any qualms or concerns over the plan lemme know and I can address them as best I can.
The game is not a win for the town if I am lynched and it turns into a crapshoot. Might need the extra kill and I am offering it because I have no shot at winning either way
If you have any qualms or concerns over the plan lemme know and I can address them as best I can.
The game is not a win for the town if I am lynched and it turns into a crapshoot. Might need the extra kill and I am offering it because I have no shot at winning either way
CoolguyBad
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Interesting. Will mull it over and let you know my analysis/decision tomorrow. Kudos for coming out either way (assuming you aren't lying about being mafia, which I don't think you are).
Interesting. Will mull it over and let you know my analysis/decision tomorrow. Kudos for coming out either way (assuming you aren't lying about being mafia, which I don't think you are).
CoolguyBad
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Zarni, any thoughts?
Zarni, any thoughts?
Caluin Graye
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Gotta admit, that's a pretty bold gambit.
I've never heard of a serial killer team. Seems to go against the nature of a serial killer. In fact, fairly certain the whole point of a serial killer is that they're loners. The very definition of serial killer on mafiascum.net is that they're loners.
So instead you're suggesting Ivan and I are part of a mafia group. One that can only kill every other night, and has less players than the other team. Uraj seems pretty fair, and I doubt he would short change one team so badly, basically setting one team up to fail.
Nope, doesn't make sense. As I've done all game long, I say it's best to lynch the sure bet.
Gotta admit, that's a pretty bold gambit.
I've never heard of a serial killer team. Seems to go against the nature of a serial killer. In fact, fairly certain the whole point of a serial killer is that they're loners. The very definition of serial killer on mafiascum.net is that they're loners.
So instead you're suggesting Ivan and I are part of a mafia group. One that can only kill every other night, and has less players than the other team. Uraj seems pretty fair, and I doubt he would short change one team so badly, basically setting one team up to fail.
Nope, doesn't make sense. As I've done all game long, I say it's best to lynch the sure bet.
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If you were on the towns team youd actually consider it Cal, so keep digging your own grave. If KI is on the towns side he should consider it as well. Sacrificing your two selves for the greater good.
The point is is that it isnt impossible for you two to be a team. It makes sense with your roles because you HAVE been using them, and the way you went about the voting today.
No to mention this game has been stacked and to say it would short change a team? there are 5 players left, I think you've managed to do pretty well for yourselves.
I got nothing to lose and neither does the town if you want to go for the sure fire win instead of gamble on a straight out loss or a 50-50 win vs stalemate. Headin to sleep, cheers.
If you were on the towns team youd actually consider it Cal, so keep digging your own grave. If KI is on the towns side he should consider it as well. Sacrificing your two selves for the greater good.
The point is is that it isnt impossible for you two to be a team. It makes sense with your roles because you HAVE been using them, and the way you went about the voting today.
No to mention this game has been stacked and to say it would short change a team? there are 5 players left, I think you've managed to do pretty well for yourselves.
I got nothing to lose and neither does the town if you want to go for the sure fire win instead of gamble on a straight out loss or a 50-50 win vs stalemate. Headin to sleep, cheers.
Caluin Graye
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But I did consider it? And I came to the conclusion that you're wrong, you're mafia, and you need to be lynched.
First I'm the SK... now I'm part of a mafia team... really, it can't be both. Let's look at both objectively.
If I'm the serial killer (and I'm not saying I am), then it's stupid to lynch me today. Let the SK go until tomorrow and let him take out Asrrin for us. Clear out all the mafia, so we can then focus on finding the serial killer amongst us tomorrow.
If I'm part of a team with KI, then we're mafia (again, not saying we are). By your own admission, we can only kill every other night. However, that means the serial killer is unaccounted for, and must be CgB or Zarniwoop. So out of the five of us, there's only one true townie left. Unlikely.
As I've stated before: The only way for the town to win is to wipe the mafia out. Ash has claimed, there's nothing more concrete than that. That will leave us at 3-0-1 going into the next day. Tomorrow, if everyone thinks I'm the SK, lynch me, it doesn't matter anymore. Then we'll be at 2-0-1 going into night, the SK nabs someone, meaning 1-0-1 day. Even if you both lynch the other, the kidnapped person goes free, meaning one townie left to win the game. Sole survivor of the Ravenwood Retreat.
To take Ash up on his offer is a gamble we don't need to take.
But I did consider it? And I came to the conclusion that you're wrong, you're mafia, and you need to be lynched.
First I'm the SK... now I'm part of a mafia team... really, it can't be both. Let's look at both objectively.
If I'm the serial killer (and I'm not saying I am), then it's stupid to lynch me today. Let the SK go until tomorrow and let him take out Asrrin for us. Clear out all the mafia, so we can then focus on finding the serial killer amongst us tomorrow.
If I'm part of a team with KI, then we're mafia (again, not saying we are). By your own admission, we can only kill every other night. However, that means the serial killer is unaccounted for, and must be CgB or Zarniwoop. So out of the five of us, there's only one true townie left. Unlikely.
As I've stated before: The only way for the town to win is to wipe the mafia out. Ash has claimed, there's nothing more concrete than that. That will leave us at 3-0-1 going into the next day. Tomorrow, if everyone thinks I'm the SK, lynch me, it doesn't matter anymore. Then we'll be at 2-0-1 going into night, the SK nabs someone, meaning 1-0-1 day. Even if you both lynch the other, the kidnapped person goes free, meaning one townie left to win the game. Sole survivor of the Ravenwood Retreat.
To take Ash up on his offer is a gamble we don't need to take.
Kraz3yIvan
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That’s an interesting approach bad ash if your telling the truth, or at least all of the truth.
I still think your lynch should go through I feel better when all the mafia get lynched - even then its 3 v 1 and we stand a good chance of victory. You have been all over the place today - CG is mafia/SK, then me and CG in a SK/second mafia team (whatever happened to just good play identifying errors in your story/actions over days?)
As for after your lynch I would re-evaluate the remaining players, I'm not buying the Zarni tells the stone cold truth everytime in mafia games, but at the same time I'm not auto lynching him tomorrow I would expect everyone to chip in to make the best decision as a team, I was a little surprised by CG seeming knowledge regards the SK you pointed out earlier but no mafia in the game is the way to go in my mind and this overides everything - don't want you lot with any chance of victory whatsoever! (no offence!)
That’s an interesting approach bad ash if your telling the truth, or at least all of the truth.
I still think your lynch should go through I feel better when all the mafia get lynched - even then its 3 v 1 and we stand a good chance of victory. You have been all over the place today - CG is mafia/SK, then me and CG in a SK/second mafia team (whatever happened to just good play identifying errors in your story/actions over days?)
As for after your lynch I would re-evaluate the remaining players, I'm not buying the Zarni tells the stone cold truth everytime in mafia games, but at the same time I'm not auto lynching him tomorrow I would expect everyone to chip in to make the best decision as a team, I was a little surprised by CG seeming knowledge regards the SK you pointed out earlier but no mafia in the game is the way to go in my mind and this overides everything - don't want you lot with any chance of victory whatsoever! (no offence!)
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Well what could I be lieing about? Uraj stated how many mafia were left and theres nothign volatile I can do as long as CBG protects himself and the SK has no kill tonight making it even better.
There is no chance for me to gain a victory. I would never ever do this if there was a chance. If I am not going to win neither should you or cal. The fact that you dont know what to do tomorrow after I am gone is proof enough that this game is a crapshoot once the mafia is eliminated.
Well what could I be lieing about? Uraj stated how many mafia were left and theres nothign volatile I can do as long as CBG protects himself and the SK has no kill tonight making it even better.
There is no chance for me to gain a victory. I would never ever do this if there was a chance. If I am not going to win neither should you or cal. The fact that you dont know what to do tomorrow after I am gone is proof enough that this game is a crapshoot once the mafia is eliminated.
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not going to pad the thread with pages of text like yesterday but just wanted to propose the scenario if zarni is the sk.
for starters id be locked right now.
secondly if he is the serial kill and my plan is in place the worst thing that could happen is a stalemate, not a loss.
The only cause for concern is if you think there are 6 mafia members and zarni is one of them but thats impossible. Uraj told you there were 5 because of the mod kills and townie lynches it literally was a lynch or lose situation. After 2 no lynches, giving that info is completely fair because it was chaos. Mafia traitor almost got removed from the game but uraj didnt think it to be fair and it stayed
not going to pad the thread with pages of text like yesterday but just wanted to propose the scenario if zarni is the sk.
for starters id be locked right now.
secondly if he is the serial kill and my plan is in place the worst thing that could happen is a stalemate, not a loss.
The only cause for concern is if you think there are 6 mafia members and zarni is one of them but thats impossible. Uraj told you there were 5 because of the mod kills and townie lynches it literally was a lynch or lose situation. After 2 no lynches, giving that info is completely fair because it was chaos. Mafia traitor almost got removed from the game but uraj didnt think it to be fair and it stayed
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If the game doesn't end with BA's lynch, then the next step is pretty obvious.
Asrrin is listed as dead - so that's over with apparently.
We lynch BA, and then it will be me, KI, CGB and Ca.
The SK will capture another of us tonight and then its 2 town to 1 sk.
I still want to hear from KI, his silence is deafening at the moment.
If the game doesn't end with BA's lynch, then the next step is pretty obvious.
Asrrin is listed as dead - so that's over with apparently.
We lynch BA, and then it will be me, KI, CGB and Ca.
The SK will capture another of us tonight and then its 2 town to 1 sk.
I still want to hear from KI, his silence is deafening at the moment.
Caluin Graye
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Not quite; the SK seems to be only able to kidnap every other night. Since he kidnapped last night, then he won't strike tonight, meaning we'll have four people going into tomorrow.
Not quite; the SK seems to be only able to kidnap every other night. Since he kidnapped last night, then he won't strike tonight, meaning we'll have four people going into tomorrow.
Kraz3yIvan
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No thats not correct the SK has attacked every other night - as I have already said it would be 3 v 1 good odds for us and we would have no more mafia to contend with - you do seem to miss things like this Zarni not sure if thats deliberate or not.
Exactly what do you want to hear from me, I've replied on most everything asked today
No thats not correct the SK has attacked every other night - as I have already said it would be 3 v 1 good odds for us and we would have no more mafia to contend with - you do seem to miss things like this Zarni not sure if thats deliberate or not.
Exactly what do you want to hear from me, I've replied on most everything asked today
