Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Bad Ash said:
This is propoganda. I am trying to avoid the lynch of a townie which would end the chance of the town winning the game. Explain how that isnt true?
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Because if you were interested in the town winning, you'd be trying to figure out who the third mafia is, not going on about who the serial killer is. You'd also know that your vote on me (who you claim to be the serial killer) is counter-productive to the town winning.

Bad Ash said:
I said what role I was and I claimed it days ago. People have been asking me about my blocking night actions the last couple of days. Again, go do your own dirty work, I am not going to waste my time to prove something from someone who is trying to hang me.
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Wrong. You claimed what your role could do. You haven't given a name to it though. I can't find something that doesn't exist. The burden of proof is upon you.

Bad Ash said:
Caluin, you said I was the serial killer did you not? So YOU are trying to get the serial killer lynched are you not?
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Again, wrong. I think you're mafia. I've stated this many times in the past, most recently in post #893. I think Zarniwoop is the serial killer. Notice how my vote is not on Zarniwoop, but on you, the mafia.

Bad Ash said:
You said I am responsible for killing Asrrin.
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I never said any such thing. You seem to have a habit of putting words into other people's mouths.

Your lies are catching up to you, Ash.



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Bad Ash said:
As for the Asrrin thing, I dont know. Either you can use your ability and kill at the same time, or krazeyivan is in a group with you.
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Apart from the dust storm your attempting to kick up its things like this that simply let you down Bad ash. Clutching mason straws? Who put Sathoris under the kosh last few days ... oh yes that would be me and CG was pretty active on that side too.

As for group participation I would agree with you .... its called town :yes:


 
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No they arent.

One sec I am the SK, one sec I am mafia. You have a chance to kill a townie and win the game and you can't even keep up with yourself.

I am not trying to find the mafia because I have you caught. It doesnt matter who we lynch today as long as they are ANTI-TOWN.

5 players left.

we lynch anti-town. 4 players left. If there is another mafia member out there (which its possible that there actually isnt, not likely, but possible) then they get a nk and 3 players left. 2 town 1 anti-town and the game should be over.

You are creating fake scenarios that I am a must lynch to make yourself look better. Debunk what I just explained.

If Cal isnt anti-town I will vote for myself tomorrow.
 
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Krazeyivan said:
Apart from the dust storm your attempting to kick up its things like this that simply let you down Bad ash. Clutching mason straws? Who put Sathoris under the kosh last few days ... oh yes that would be me and CG was pretty active on that side too.

As for group participation I would agree with you .... its called town :yes:
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I dont believe you to be anti-town but its a possiblity

Again: Cal gunning for Sath means zip. zero. zilch. He needs anyone lynched today but himself. Explain to me how that gives him town cred? The most likely explanation is that Cal is the SK acting alone. Explain how him wanting Sath dead in this situation proves that he is town.

I highly encourage CbG and Zarni to join my side based on Cal tripping over his own words in my last couple of posts. Krazey saying "cal wanted sath dead so ofc he's town" is exactly what I was talking about with keeping your head on a swivel.



 
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Bad Ash said:
I highly encourage CbG and Zarni to join my side based on Cal tripping over his own words in my last couple of posts. Krazey saying "cal wanted sath dead so ofc he's town" is exactly what I was talking about with keeping your head on a swivel.
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The only words I've 'tripped over' are the words you've made up. You're trying to make people believe I've stated things that I have never said.

Bad Ash said:
You are creating fake scenarios that I am a must lynch to make yourself look better. Debunk what I just explained.
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Easily debunked. We lynch the serial killer, Asrrin goes free, now it's two versus two which is a mafia win. Just because you say it's fake doesn't mean it is.

Nope, the only way out of this is to lynch the mafia. That's you.



 
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How would Asrrin "go free"? What are you talking about? Where on earth would you have that information?
 
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Bad Ash said:
How would Asrrin "go free"? What are you talking about? Where on earth would you have that information?
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Why did it take the SK a full day after the kidnapping of Leo to kill her, instead of instantly?

Why be a kidnapping SK, instead of just a standard 'blap, dead' SK?

Where did the story say the kidnapper took his victim? Where is the place that the town goes to search after every lynch?

Seems pretty obvious to me that we're capable of freeing the victim if we lynched the right person.



 
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Caluin Graye said:
Why did it take the SK a full day after the kidnapping of Leo to kill her, instead of instantly?

Why be a kidnapping SK, instead of just a standard 'blap, dead' SK?

Where did the story say the kidnapper took his victim? Where is the place that the town goes to search after every lynch?

Seems pretty obvious to me that we're capable of freeing the victim if we lynched the right person.
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not even close! AGAIN you are just making things up to try to discredit me. They are removed from the players alive list and look here.


Players dead:
1. Gorny -- Mod Killed Day one, Bus Driver, Pro-Town
2. Feysal -- Died at the end of Day one
3. Leopold Stotch -- Went missing on Night two, Body found at the end of Day three
4. Laarz -- Strangled Night two
5. Valhauros -- Mod Killed Day two, Cityslicker, Pro-Town
6. Marahumm -- Lynched Day three, Cop, Pro-Town
7. Goryani -- Strangled Night four
8. Noodle -- Lynched Day four, Dirty Cop/ Mafia Traitor
9. Technomancer -- Lynched Day five, Mafia Ninja
10. LozHinge the Unhinged -- Shot to death Night six
11. ThunderCat -- Shot while asleep on Night seven
12. Sathoris -- Lynched Day seven, Mafia Hitman
13. Ankeli -- Shot to death Night eight
14. Asrrin -- Went missing on Night eight


you said yourself leo was in the dead list the same night as her body being taken.

Also lets take a look at this:

After going through Marahumm's notes some more, you come across an unopened correspondence. Reading through it you find out that apparently there are as many as five mafia members thought to be at the retreat. Looks like you're going to have to get cracking if you're going to come out of this alive.

Goryani was strangled.

It is now DAYTIME.

Players Alive:
1. Asrrin
2. CoolguyBad
3. Noodle
4. Zarniwoop
5. ThunderCat
6. Bad Ash
7. Technomancer
8. Sathoris
9. Caluin Graye
10. Krazeyivan
11. Ankeli
12. LozHinge the Unhinged


Noodle was a journalist/mafia traitor
Technomancer was poison killer
Sathoris was a mafia tracker

We all still agree asrrin was anti-town right?



Ok, so lets put on our thinking caps here. Up to 5 members of anti-town. If Asrrin was anti-town then that means he was kidnapped and was the final mafia member and his kill went through.

We have a SK. 4 players left. Cant kill during the night phase. So no new information is learned. Cal is saying Zarni is the other anti town. Someone who is swearing on his mafia-hood that he will never play again if he is lieing a tactic he's used before and has proven to be true and should prob never be used again.

kill zarni, 3 players left one of them is a serial killer and now he has a kill with a 66% chance of making it a 1 v 1 and a 100% chance of winning the game if CBG is found dead aka not protecting himself from here on out.

stalemate.


We lynch Cal, if for some unknown reason (except to only the serial killer which Cal has just basically claimed by saying asrrin would go free) we lynch asrrin the next day and game is over.



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

I'm snipping the two important bits of your post:

Bad Ash said:
After going through Marahumm's notes some more, you come across an unopened correspondence. Reading through it you find out that apparently there are as many as five mafia members thought to be at the retreat.

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Up to 5 members of anti-town. If Asrrin was anti-town then that means he was kidnapped and was the final mafia member and his kill went through.
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You're intentionally misreading Marahumm's notes. Five mafia + one SK = six anti-town.

Asrrin was not the last mafia member. You are.



 
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Done talking until CBG or Zarni make a move. If Krazey isnt convinced by any of this then idk what to think because you guys are doing a good tag team job on me while I am presenting mafia game gold. I dont see any possible way that krazey is anti town but its getting kinda crazy.

Cal has a plan in place that leads to his win, nothing more, nothing less. It starts with my lynch and continues with zarni's.
 
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Actually, I was also under the impression that Asrrin was the final mafia member. If there is one more SK and mafia here, then we are in some serious trouble...

From the way I see it, if there are two anti-town members left, I would figure that they're either BA or Cal. If we manage to lynch one, then it will be become 3-1, and even with a mafia kill, it will be 2-1 the next day, with a good chance of winning. If there is only one anti town member left, that would be the SK. Killing a pro-townee would still make the game 3-1, with the SK being unable to kill the next night. Still a good chance to win.

With that said...

Vote: Bad Ash

BA, know that even if you really are a pro-town, we will still have a chance to win the game the next night, assuming smart play.
 
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Not if Cal and KI are together which is exactly how they are playing so far in this day phase. This was a lynch or lose scenario a long time ago.

Cal admitted that he plans to go after Zarni tomorrow and that is absolutely evidence enough that he is anti-town. Zarni would not say what he did unless he was vanilla town.

If I am lynched you are turned to a guessing game and it might already be over. I seriously have never presented this much information against one person before or made it as clear as I could have today. Past info, and things he has said today specifically that show he is just spinning a web

CbG

please read posts:

937
my quotes of Cal on 940 and
945

If you aren't convinced by any of that than C'est la vie

5 players left requires flawless moves
 
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Final thought: If you arent convinced by those posts CbG, I encourage you to vote for me because you think I have a higher chance of being anti-town than Cal. Not because Cal and KI already have 2 votes on me. Theres a ton of time left in this day and if you think Cal is a better choice there is enough time to get it done especially with Zarni undecided.

This very well could be the entire game right here you can not expect to have another chance with 5 players left
 
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Well, CG just threw a major wrench. It's a shame he's new and doesn't know my history. If KI also thinks I'm mafia, there's no point in continuing the game as the mafia has won. So, I'll wait for his response before wasting my breath.
 
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Final thought: If you arent convinced by those posts CbG, I encourage you to vote for me because you think I have a higher chance of being anti-town than Cal. Not because Cal and KI already have 2 votes on me. Theres a ton of time left in this day and if you think Cal is a better choice there is enough time to get it done especially with Zarni undecided.

This very well could be the entire game right here you can not expect to have another chance with 5 players left
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Nope...re-read those posts several times, wasn't sure exactly how that would dis-prove Cal too much.

I mean, so far, Cal's role claim has been much more solid and helpful than yours TBH. I don't know if you can point that to just a unlucky game (targeting the wrong people during night, it happens). I don't even remember one successful role block you made. That IS your role isn't it?

Also, you're right, I'm just playing the statistics. I really think Krazey is town, due to the fact that he gave both Loz and TC forensic kits, and that they're pretty much confirmed townies. Unless he is some weird bogus mafia inventor that can create useless items that will always fail, send them to townies and hide himself with the guise of an actual inventor. Sounds far-fetch TBH.

Zarni, not too sure when you think I'm anti-town but hopefully we can establish more of a trust for future games when you find out I am doctor=P

And yes, we have a good amount of time to decide. I will definitely be active in this thread tomorrow, so I expect everyone else to be also!
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Zarniwoop said:
Well, CG just threw a major wrench. It's a shame he's new and doesn't know my history. If KI also thinks I'm mafia, there's no point in continuing the game as the mafia has won. So, I'll wait for his response before wasting my breath.
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Wait, when did Krazey think you're mafia? I'm new and I don't know your history and I believe you...and you still suspect me huh-.-


 
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Zarniwoop said:
KI, do you agree with CG that a lynch of me nets an anti-town?
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Please keep in mind that I'm not 100% certain that you're anti-town. You're simply my highest suspect, as I'm fairly positive that both CgB and KI are townies.

So with that being said, you'd have to just convince me that someone else is more likely to be the SK than you are.

Pragmatically, though, it's most likely the town will turn against me the next day no matter what Ash flips. That's okay though, since if Ash is mafia the town will still be able to win even if I'm lynched tomorrow. That's what I'm after; a town win, no matter the cost. To get that, we have to rid ourselves of the last mafia - Ash.



 
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Haha classic. Man CbG I wish you were a vet. Every mafia has had a role that provided info.

btw: revealing pm info accidentally is what we call a classic tell for scum. Total noob move and it was a half-*** cover up job too
 
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