Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

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You meanies.



Good luck dude. If you make it to the final table, you need to fly us all there in November to cheer for you.



That reminds me of Leo's and Mara's werewolf game. Zhao was the werewolf and he could either kill or recruit two extra people.



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Indeed is my line.

Nobody's stopping you from actually checking. By all means compile a list of people who didn't log in and might fail to send in a kill. Just suggesting it and advocating for it doesn't do anything.

Personally I don't think it'll help in the slightest. Too much variables to deduct anything logically out of it. Besides do you really think the mafia would rely on the hitman to send in the kill if he wasn't online yet.

Whatever the reason for no NK we can't proof any or find out anything. Doc is most likely but that doesn't tell us anything so I'm gonna drop it.



Dear god don't mention the R word!

Technomancer #32 is a little too casual. Nervous scum worried about his NK failing perhaps.

Marahumm seems a bit too eager to check online statuses of players, but if he's scum and interested in possible PRs he could just check for himself and not mention anything to us.
But then again Noodle did something similar last game with Ankeli so Marahumm might have just slipped and not thought of checking himself.

Gorny is doing his best to be active but not mention anything game related. Same as last game. Sure you have on opinion about something, eh?

Unvote: Ankeli
Vote: Gorny


This early in the game Sath? My my, you're pusing a Vendetta. I was busy last night (IRL) so shoot me.



 
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That reminds me of Leo's and Mara's werewolf game. Zhao was the werewolf and he could either kill or recruit two extra people.

don't think Mara hosted that one. i believe it was one man named Wickedswami. ;)


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love the little "TM" copyright mark thingy there. lol!

What is that, a cross between a kitten and a gremlin?

it's a wet kitten, but your analysis is very nice too! haha!

i have nothing at this point so im going to keep an eye on this and do my other chores. Zhao, if you're reading this, miss you, baby! :kiss: :wink:


 
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Oh and by the way...I did not fail to log in and send in my .... night action.
 
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Geez, I sleep in a bit, stay in my room playing LA Noire (whilst trying to catch Mafia baddies in it) and wake up to this huh?

It's both rare and strange to see a NK in the first morning. Would there be any reason for the mafia members to purposefully skip the first kill? Would that actually be an useful strategy?

I can think of one very good reason for a mafia team to punt upfield on Night 0 instead of sending in a kill - the obvious drawback may be worth it under those circumstances, plus the lack of any kind of information for the town at large mitigates the inactivity even further.

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Assuming you meant "rare and strange to NOT see a NK..."

Not sending in a kill as a useful strategy should require a whole lot more knowledge than is available N1. To put it another way, if mafia already know enough to strategize not sending in a kill, then the town has a deep hole to climb out of. While I think it's more likely mafia intentionally not send in a kill than do so on accident, I can't imagine either happening N1. I would think they wait until a roleblocker is known and play the odds confuzzling the roleblocker.

The mafia may already have enough info to make a no-kill Night 0 worth it to them.

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Technomancer #32 is a little too casual. Nervous scum worried about his NK failing perhaps.

Marahumm seems a bit too eager to check online statuses of players, but if he's scum and interested in possible PRs he could just check for himself and not mention anything to us.
But then again Noodle did something similar last game with Ankeli so Marahumm might have just slipped and not thought of checking himself.

Gorny is doing his best to be active but not mention anything game related. Same as last game. Sure you have on opinion about something, eh?

Unvote: Ankeli
Vote: Gorny

I like this post a lot and it also gels with my own initial read of Gorny - which I won't publicise so early in the game.

Not sure we can hope for a big slip-up from "Mafia Mara" so soon after his previous one-and-only mis-step. I am guessing there is nothing conclusive to be drawn from it.

Technomancer - hmmm ... we'll see perhaps.

Seriously? Every game I've ever played with Gorny, and he's done this regardless of whether he is town or anti-town. To vote someone on such a flimsy read... Are you just trying to get rid of strong players? sounds scummy to me.

Unvote: Zarniwoop
Vote: Sathoris

Alarm bell rang with this jumping to the defence of Gorny. Day 1 votes from Townies are always flimsy!

Sigh, twas just to get gorny talking about it. Incase you didn't notice last game. I always place votes on people to get them talking about it.

Now mine wasn't adressed to you, but you reacted nonetheless...

Techno, Gorny, Asrrin scumteam.

I don't dislike this proposition - for a Day 1, this looks relatively solid.

Factoring in a possible role blocker, a bus driver switch to a blocked player etc. would increase the percentage closer to 15. I'd say 15% is more likely than 3-4 mafia members all being offline for the night period.

Slightly straw-man-argument, this. All it takes is one mafia member being late with a last-minute PM. Not a great stretch.

I have no real thoughts on why there was no NK - literally all there is to work with is theories, but no data.
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I was going to leave my random vote in place until something better came along - which it has.

Unvote: Technomancer
Vote: Gorny


Let's get some traction on the day.



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Marahumm seems a bit too eager to check online statuses of players, but if he's scum and interested in possible PRs he could just check for himself and not mention anything to us.
But then again Noodle did something similar last game with Ankeli so Marahumm might have just slipped and not thought of checking himself.

This is what has been bothering me about Marahumm. Checking user profiles during night phase, best case scenario, could tell you who the town's power roles were along with who mafia were, essentially simply weeding out the standard townies.

Town couldn't do anything with that information, though. We have no way of seeing who belongs to which team, and possibly lynching one of our own power roles is a risk we shouldn't take.

Mafia, on the other hand, just get a better picture of who the priority targets are. They lose nothing by NKing someone they suspect of being a power role, since they had no information to go on in the first place. Digging into profiles only increases their odds of hitting someone important. No downsides, that I can see.

Mentioning the tactic to us seems to me like a ploy to get us to do Mara's dirty work for him, and hopefully lead us to lynching one of our own. Sounds scummy to me.

Unvote: Asrrin
Vote: Marahumm



 
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checking online status does not mean anything anymore really. You can't do it to a pal because we can stealth. It's unreliable against mods because of stealth.

Not to mention that once you look at someone's profile, it stays there.
 
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Hi Leo!

Look, I'm talking to you in a Mafia Game! Isn't it exciting?

You'd better not be Mafia, girl!

Disclaimerâ„¢: Really, you'd better not be.
 
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checking online status does not mean anything anymore really. You can't do it to a pal because we can stealth. It's unreliable against mods because of stealth.

Not to mention that once you look at someone's profile, it stays there.

i sometimes wish i had your stealth-ability. :( it would've come in handy about a year and a half ago....

Hi Leo!

Look, I'm talking to you in a Mafia Game! Isn't it exciting?

You'd better not be Mafia, girl!

Disclaimerâ„¢: Really, you'd better not be.

i know! it is! XD hey, have you trained that printer yet? ;P jk, jk.

and you better not be mafia either, boy!


Disclaimer: No, really, you'd better not be. i'll be so mad. XD


 
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Yes, there is! But ssshhh, we don't want anyone knowing about it. If we did, we'd be advertising it on a web forum or something! :)
 
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Are you jealous Gorny?

hahahaha! Gorny? Jealous of me? i doubt it.

Yes, there is! But ssshhh, we don't want anyone knowing about it. If we did, we'd be advertising it on a web forum or something! :)

yes, i ran away to the UK and im currently residing with LozHinge and his beauty in red. :p


 
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It's fun and I'm eating all kinds of fun food now! :jig:

But stay out of the garage, Leo. Big Red, she gets nervous. :)

Disclaimerâ„¢: Seriously ... :)
 
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