Zombie invasion Mafia game.
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That doesn't fit though. As a cop of any type, you only get one "read" a night, regardless of it's accurate not...there's no way he could have that many reads on people becaus ethe game has not been running long enough.
It sounds more like he had assumptions or educated guesses at the most...
An insane cop always gets reversed roles. If here were the cop, and were insane then he would have been reading people as the opposite of what they really were.
So unless TC is working some mechanic differently, if we assume that Val was an insane cop he could not have got reads and specific role type reveals on multiple people but would have gotten something more like zombie for anti town and not role information.
He was likely guessing.
That doesn't fit though. As a cop of any type, you only get one "read" a night, regardless of it's accurate not...there's no way he could have that many reads on people becaus ethe game has not been running long enough.
It sounds more like he had assumptions or educated guesses at the most...
An insane cop always gets reversed roles. If here were the cop, and were insane then he would have been reading people as the opposite of what they really were.
So unless TC is working some mechanic differently, if we assume that Val was an insane cop he could not have got reads and specific role type reveals on multiple people but would have gotten something more like zombie for anti town and not role information.
He was likely guessing.
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Or do have specialities that aren't in the game.
I'd like to hear from KI before we start stockpiling votes on im though. I do agree that his behaviour was fishy at best. I would still personally pinpoint ITY and Thyiad as my favourite lynch targets atm.
I think it is quite clear what Val's role was?
Or do have specialities that aren't in the game.
I'd like to hear from KI before we start stockpiling votes on im though. I do agree that his behaviour was fishy at best. I would still personally pinpoint ITY and Thyiad as my favourite lynch targets atm.
I think it is quite clear what Val's role was?
I_Told_You
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So no one suggested this might happen........
All of my posts said I felt that Val would "flip" pro-town, why picking out KI for that- or are you saving me for tomorrow?
Also, why do you "think" the mafia killed asrrin due to Val's posts?
What now, since when have you placed a voted in the first hour of the day? and why did you place it without being able to give reasons?
You 100% sure bout this one?
So no one suggested this might happen........
All of my posts said I felt that Val would "flip" pro-town, why picking out KI for that- or are you saving me for tomorrow?
Also, why do you "think" the mafia killed asrrin due to Val's posts?
What now, since when have you placed a voted in the first hour of the day? and why did you place it without being able to give reasons?
You 100% sure bout this one?
Kraz3yIvan
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Yes lynch a townie that is a great help to us ..... er wait no that helps the mafia - which I now strongly think your a member of. Quite frankly your reasoning is deeply flawed, I pointed out that depending on Vals alignment we would get a good idea who to grill and put under the spotlight as some really pushed for his lynch - you being one of them now your trying to pass off the heat to me - nice try, you went from possible scum to quite probably in my eyes - trying to get the quick lynch train start
Oh look here comes your partner in crime, again since I know my *details* in this game I think the mafia (that would strongly hint with this info to be at least you two) have got quite a bit of info with the NK's and have figured who would be best to target since I opened my mouth - obviously with me pushing to hopefully get "townside" yesterday I think it got painted in a negative light - great mafia play when they know they a) Want every townie dead and b) don't want anyone joining/scouted - I need to remind myself who really asked the scout to stay well clear of me - will have to check that after. Bottom line is this - I'm beneficial for the town (I tried to get me in early in case of early NK - it was a calculated risk) If I am lynched today I can easily see Sathoris saying thats still very good for the town! - 2 townies lynched but we got valuable info! Oh lets look at this other person....
If it does happen I really hope the rest are smart enough to lynch you up by the short and curlys quick smart!
Yes lynch a townie that is a great help to us ..... er wait no that helps the mafia - which I now strongly think your a member of. Quite frankly your reasoning is deeply flawed, I pointed out that depending on Vals alignment we would get a good idea who to grill and put under the spotlight as some really pushed for his lynch - you being one of them now your trying to pass off the heat to me - nice try, you went from possible scum to quite probably in my eyes - trying to get the quick lynch train start
Oh look here comes your partner in crime, again since I know my *details* in this game I think the mafia (that would strongly hint with this info to be at least you two) have got quite a bit of info with the NK's and have figured who would be best to target since I opened my mouth - obviously with me pushing to hopefully get "townside" yesterday I think it got painted in a negative light - great mafia play when they know they a) Want every townie dead and b) don't want anyone joining/scouted - I need to remind myself who really asked the scout to stay well clear of me - will have to check that after. Bottom line is this - I'm beneficial for the town (I tried to get me in early in case of early NK - it was a calculated risk) If I am lynched today I can easily see Sathoris saying thats still very good for the town! - 2 townies lynched but we got valuable info! Oh lets look at this other person....
If it does happen I really hope the rest are smart enough to lynch you up by the short and curlys quick smart!
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What? Trying to score points? Yes you thought Val was town, good for you. But you were wrong to dissuade people voting for valhauros. Where would we be if the lynch failed?
I don't want to go after you. Your concerns were valid, but in my view misplaced. People defending players they think are town are very much needed. As you did, but not what Ivan did. Ivan gave no input and pretty much covered his *** for whichever outcome. A townie doesn't need to justify a lynchtrain like valhauros' was. Scum would know valhauros wasn't mafia, which is why Ivan said what he said. Val could end up an SK with his first kill blocked or saved, hence the first post. Which is why Ivan cleverly pointed out the town did good if val turned out anti-town. Reaks of scum
Why kill Assrin, he would have faced the same ammount of flack I'm sure to get. He would even vote for himself, setting us up with a nice mislynch. No one else really made themselves a night target, so why not go with val's read on Assrin as a scout.
Erm, are you really saying valhauros was a great help to us and that lynching no-one, thus giving us no information, is a better thing than what happened?
You're fully entitled to grill me, in fact I encourage it. But you're covering your *** repeatedly. Suggesting lynching a townie helps the mafia. Lynching is our only weapon, of course we're gonna have some friendly fire. I have yet to see a game in which we have a perfect 100% lynch record.
What? Trying to score points? Yes you thought Val was town, good for you. But you were wrong to dissuade people voting for valhauros. Where would we be if the lynch failed?
I don't want to go after you. Your concerns were valid, but in my view misplaced. People defending players they think are town are very much needed. As you did, but not what Ivan did. Ivan gave no input and pretty much covered his *** for whichever outcome. A townie doesn't need to justify a lynchtrain like valhauros' was. Scum would know valhauros wasn't mafia, which is why Ivan said what he said. Val could end up an SK with his first kill blocked or saved, hence the first post. Which is why Ivan cleverly pointed out the town did good if val turned out anti-town. Reaks of scum
Why kill Assrin, he would have faced the same ammount of flack I'm sure to get. He would even vote for himself, setting us up with a nice mislynch. No one else really made themselves a night target, so why not go with val's read on Assrin as a scout.
Erm, are you really saying valhauros was a great help to us and that lynching no-one, thus giving us no information, is a better thing than what happened?
You're fully entitled to grill me, in fact I encourage it. But you're covering your *** repeatedly. Suggesting lynching a townie helps the mafia. Lynching is our only weapon, of course we're gonna have some friendly fire. I have yet to see a game in which we have a perfect 100% lynch record.
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Where was this yesterday then? The only debatable point was his posession of a power role, which only ITY defended. If my reasoning was deeply flawed I very much like to see you present a case. Because honestly, I hardly presented a case, val's posts spoke for themselves.
It's all easy to say this in hindsight. Quit it with the woe unto us for killing a townie. We've got nothing to apologize for.
Here you mention we do get info if he's lynched. Not so bitter back then.
Where was this yesterday then? The only debatable point was his posession of a power role, which only ITY defended. If my reasoning was deeply flawed I very much like to see you present a case. Because honestly, I hardly presented a case, val's posts spoke for themselves.
It's all easy to say this in hindsight. Quit it with the woe unto us for killing a townie. We've got nothing to apologize for.
Here you mention we do get info if he's lynched. Not so bitter back then.
I_Told_You
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The lynch was already done before I got online, I think the people to watch are possibly the one's named above- Sath for his lynching of anyone who questions him- not very pro-town unless there is reason behind it, Noammr for his completely out of character vote in the early minutes of the game, saying I will justify this later......... Bad Ash jumped in pretty quick aswell..... and last but not least we have a player who claimed doc and is still alive 3 days later...... now wouldn't the mafia kill a claimed doc?
The lynch was already done before I got online, I think the people to watch are possibly the one's named above- Sath for his lynching of anyone who questions him- not very pro-town unless there is reason behind it, Noammr for his completely out of character vote in the early minutes of the game, saying I will justify this later......... Bad Ash jumped in pretty quick aswell..... and last but not least we have a player who claimed doc and is still alive 3 days later...... now wouldn't the mafia kill a claimed doc?
Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.
So last night we got a soldier and 2 civvies. Alright.
As to what Val posted; I like this a lot. I know it's not dead on but I think it's worth having a look at. Guessing or not, he got some interesting ideas and some tally with my own thoughts.
Asrrin says he's outside
I wrote this before Val's table: I like Ankeli, Sath and ZY as mafia. ZY isn't saying much and normally he's a nit picker.
ZY is starting to nit pick a bit now but I still think Ankeli needs to die. Sath ... maybe, maybe not.
Because I'm trying to get you lynched; and I will keep trying until I'm dead, I succeed or you have a cast iron reason why I shouldn't do it. Put up or shut up Ankeli. Start a lynch train on me if you really believe I'm mafia. You'll end up with egg on your face and I hope a noose around your neck next day.
Vote: Ankeli
So last night we got a soldier and 2 civvies. Alright.
As to what Val posted; I like this a lot. I know it's not dead on but I think it's worth having a look at. Guessing or not, he got some interesting ideas and some tally with my own thoughts.
Asrrin says he's outside
I wrote this before Val's table: I like Ankeli, Sath and ZY as mafia. ZY isn't saying much and normally he's a nit picker.
ZY is starting to nit pick a bit now but I still think Ankeli needs to die. Sath ... maybe, maybe not.
Because I'm trying to get you lynched; and I will keep trying until I'm dead, I succeed or you have a cast iron reason why I shouldn't do it. Put up or shut up Ankeli. Start a lynch train on me if you really believe I'm mafia. You'll end up with egg on your face and I hope a noose around your neck next day.
Vote: Ankeli
Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.
So you think that 1 or more mafia pushed the Val train yesterday.
What do you think he was basing his info on and why do you have faith in it?
I like to pick then flick, it keeps my nose clean.
Is Noodle off the hook?
So you think that 1 or more mafia pushed the Val train yesterday.
What do you think he was basing his info on and why do you have faith in it?
Thyiad said:
I like to pick then flick, it keeps my nose clean.
Is Noodle off the hook?
Kraz3yIvan
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Wow I guess if you do lynch me today tomorrow will just be - well its Ivan's fault for getting lynch when you post supposed scum like posts!
I tried to post a carefully weighed and balanced evaluation of what I had seen at that point. I'm pretty sure I did no *** covering.
Also I totally agree with your point about the lack of perfect lynch record for the duration of a game - we will get mis reads due to abilities/mistakes etc but you went pretty hard at Val (so did Asrrin) fair play it did look a bit out of order with his mispost BUT then to get it wrong again and go after me starts to indicate a scum like pattern. Hell I voted for Val as getting another person yesterday everyone would agree on and actually voting for would be slim (coupled with the "totally sure" gang posting about val)
Also I've yet to see/remember a game when someone has been 7 - 8 votes in and people all changed their minds and picked someone else. We needed the info yesterday - we got some mostly bad as it hurts us townies. Now your compounding your error (if by some miracle your not mafia) by going after me - I pretty sure you are scum simply cos what you've done today is exactly what I would do in a mafia role coupled with your knowledge gleaned from NKs.
Wow I guess if you do lynch me today tomorrow will just be - well its Ivan's fault for getting lynch when you post supposed scum like posts!
I tried to post a carefully weighed and balanced evaluation of what I had seen at that point. I'm pretty sure I did no *** covering.
Also I totally agree with your point about the lack of perfect lynch record for the duration of a game - we will get mis reads due to abilities/mistakes etc but you went pretty hard at Val (so did Asrrin) fair play it did look a bit out of order with his mispost BUT then to get it wrong again and go after me starts to indicate a scum like pattern. Hell I voted for Val as getting another person yesterday everyone would agree on and actually voting for would be slim (coupled with the "totally sure" gang posting about val)
Also I've yet to see/remember a game when someone has been 7 - 8 votes in and people all changed their minds and picked someone else. We needed the info yesterday - we got some mostly bad as it hurts us townies. Now your compounding your error (if by some miracle your not mafia) by going after me - I pretty sure you are scum simply cos what you've done today is exactly what I would do in a mafia role coupled with your knowledge gleaned from NKs.
I_Told_You
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Ankeli didn't claim doc. He rose the thought that he might be a doctor, which is scummy in itself.
Why do you like me as mafia? Because Val had me in his list? He listed me as a mafia because I aparently attacked him because he attacked me? Sort of strang because I was on his case from the beginning of the day and he then attacked me personally.
Ankeli didn't claim doc. He rose the thought that he might be a doctor, which is scummy in itself.
Why do you like me as mafia? Because Val had me in his list? He listed me as a mafia because I aparently attacked him because he attacked me? Sort of strang because I was on his case from the beginning of the day and he then attacked me personally.
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