Y.A.W.P's Warcraft Themed Pen 'n Paper RPG style Mafia Game Game Thread

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Unvote: Feysal

One powerful role you got there. Makes me wonder if the Mafia equivalent is unlynchable.

So...what direction for today's Lynch?
 
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First things first:

Unvote: nurman
Vote: Leopold Stotch


Voting a slain player is an exercise in uselessness. I believe Leo is a VI, and played accordingly. With the uber stats that have been thrown arround, it looks like Uraj and Feysal can win by fighting, and don't need lynches, or anything/anyone else for that matter. I vote to share the win. Leo, if you don't want me to vote for you, just say so and I'll change.

Edit 2: A little ways back Bad Ash did say something about re-evaluating the game. There seems to be very little lynch interest. I'll admit, I have been a pretty ****ty moderator. I'll also admit that for my first game, I should have run with something less complicated.

I have several options here:

Option A:
If you would feel more comfortable with a better moderator, I will happily turn the game over, in its entirety, to either Gorny or TC or both.

Option B:
Call it a draw.

Option C:
I reveal several key things about the game, enough so that one fight would result in a victory for one side or another.

Option D:
I'm willing to entertain other options.

Do you not want to moderate anymore? It looks like three of the options effectively conclude your moderating the game. That's probably the bigger issue to tackle.

Personally, I think the game is getting very interesting. It doesn't look like it will last much longer if we let it play out. Of course, I have no clue what all the secret "key things" are. I vote to continue, as long as you are willing.



 
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I didn't sit through 2 weeks of dayphase just to quit the next day. Let's carry on and see how it goes. We've finally managed a proper way to deal with the fighting.

Unvote: Feysal

Your godly role appears valid. No point in voting for leo as we know her role and she's harmless. Any ideas anyone?
 
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Regarding our options, I'd like to continue the game, rather than declare it a draw or gamble the result on a single fight. TC said he was too busy to run the game. Gorny might be eligible, unless he is still busy with his spambot genocide.

As for where to go now, I'm tempted to say we should lynch Leo despite her village idiot claim. That is how today would've probably ended without the mistaken early reveal. After Uraj confirmed himself and me, Leo would've come under pressure to reveal more, and all she'd have needed to do was flail some and we'd have probably lynched her. I was suspicious already when she claimed cop with no flavor or name, and no other investigations besides me.

The alternative is that she is granted an autowin because of the error, she is removed from the game, and the rest of us continue to play for real. The problem with this would be that it turned the game further against the cult by giving us an extra lynch. However, we may have killed Leo by fight instead of lynch anyway. I know I could've taken her easy, and unless she has an increased ability to flee, there is no way she could've escaped either. This could be the best thing for the game really.

I suggest Leo is granted an autowin and she is removed from the game, and the remaining players continue the day phase.
 
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With the uber stats that have been thrown arround, it looks like Uraj and Feysal can win by fighting, and don't need lynches, or anything/anyone else for that matter. I vote to share the win.

As strong as mine and Uraj's roles are, I doubt we could win by fighting alone. I said once that I thought the cult recruiter was the only player besides the town recruiter I could not hurt at all. Those two are still stronger than either of us. From the fight, my best bet for Uraj's stats are ~10 DPS and ~7 Tank, making him a stronger attacker than me, but even he would probably lose in a fight with the cult recruiter.

I'll put together the vote records and other information we have, and see where we stand.



 
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YAWP, i'll be honest.... i think this was all just bad timing. this game would've been a little better had it not been for the holidays because it seemed like you were super busy there for a while. that's really my only negative criticism. other than that, im willing to continue for the other players because Sathoris and Goryani are right - we didn't wait 2 weeks of frozen dayphase or anything to quit and it seems like the game is picking up a bit. :crookedteeth: let's carry on and see how things go. ^_^

as for my lynch, that's up to you guys. personally, i don't feel i should be granted an auto-win. it's like a cop coming forward and exposing my role. i don't feel it's fair, but i might also being hard on myself again. >.> look, Uraj saw my role. it was a mistake by YAWP it's okay. im a little bummed, but i shouldn't be granted an auto-win. how is it fair?
 
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I actually think bigger problem for Leo was that she posted her cop result a little bit before I made my roleclaim post. We already knew her stats from Feysal's test fight. So I'm pretty sure I would have suggested Feysal fight her after the results of nurman's fight even without the knowledge of her role. Though if she did manage to flee the battle with Feysal, then I could see her ending up being lynched. So I am fine with an autowin.

so did we have a night phase or not? are we still in it? what is going on? I thought the sath fight didnt even exist cause that day didnt really happen cause you were MIA.

Can you state why you originally wanted to fight Sathoris and what changed that made you not want to fight him anymore?



 
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I was trying to figure things out (nurman choosing his class was a shocker) and I found it becomes difficult because an important piece is missing. How often can recruiters recruit? Feysal left out any recruitment details. That information could provide upper and lower bounds for the number of recruits.

I'm willing to continue. The question is, are you all wanting me to continue?

Yes.

As strong as mine and Uraj's roles are, I doubt we could win by fighting alone. I said once that I thought the cult recruiter was the only player besides the town recruiter I could not hurt at all. Those two are still stronger than either of us. From the fight, my best bet for Uraj's stats are ~10 DPS and ~7 Tank, making him a stronger attacker than me, but even he would probably lose in a fight with the cult recruiter.

I think you underestimate your collective knowledge (your = you, Uraj and the townie recruiter). From there it becomes a process of elimination. You fight and eliminate anyone you can till you, Uraj and the townie recruiter are left with the cult recruiter. Lynch the cult recruiter. If you find the cult recruiter first, we lynch then.

as for my lynch, that's up to you guys. personally, i don't feel i should be granted an auto-win. it's like a cop coming forward and exposing my role.

If you didn't provide details corroborating your cop claim, you probably would have been lynched today.

On an unrelated note: Ankeli seems to be MIA. His last post was a week ago, where he asked me to give the names of both recruiting factions.

Also, since nurman was recruited to mafia, I'll make a full claim since they would know a lot. I'll do so after lunch. This gives anyone else a chance to make a similar claim.



 
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If you didn't provide details corroborating your cop claim, you probably would have been lynched today.

i was going to give false accusations and say i checked myself Night 1 and came up pro-town.

On an unrelated note: Ankeli seems to be MIA. His last post was a week ago, where he asked me to give the names of both recruiting factions.

Also, since nurman was recruited to mafia, I'll make a full claim since they would know a lot. I'll do so after lunch. This gives anyone else a chance to make a similar claim.

haha, who's all in this game again? :hammerhead: i forgot Ankeli was in this one. i thought he sat out.


 
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Alive:
Feysal, Vol'jin, spymaster, 7-10-8
Sathoris
Goryani, Peon?
Bad Ash
Ankeli
Uraj, Rokhan, spy, 10-X-7?
Trionth
Nolecub, Peon?, 2-2-2
Leopold Stotch, Gamon, village idiot, 2-2-2

Dead:
Noammar - killed night 1
Gorny - Orgrim Doomhammer, lynched day 2
Dragomir - killed night 3
Noodle - killed night 4
nurman - Cultist, slain day 4

Votes:

Day 1 (14 alive, 6 to lynch, 7 to lock):
Nolecub - Goryani
Ankeli - Bad Ash, Sathoris, Leopold Stotch, Trionth
Bad Ash - Ankeli
Gorny - Nolecub

Day 2 (14 alive, 7 to lynch, 8 to lock):
Sathoris - Gorny
Ankeli - (Bad Ash)
Gorny - (Nolecub), Uraj, Sathoris, Noodle, Bad Ash, Trionth, Nolecub, Feysal
Nolecub - (Nolecub), Leopold Stotch

Day 3 (12 alive, 6 to lynch, 7 to lock):
Leopold Stotch - (Sathoris)
Sathoris - Goryani, Bad Ash, (Uraj)
nurman - Ankeli
Goryani - Sathoris
Feysal - Nolecub

Day 4 (9 alive, 5 to lynch, 6 to lock):
nurman - (Sathoris), (Goryani)
Feysal - (Nolecub), (Sathoris)
Leopold Stotch - Goryani

I looked through the game and listed all votes. Those that were unvoted are in parentheses.

How often can recruiters recruit? Feysal left out any recruitment details. That information could provide upper and lower bounds for the number of recruits.

Note that I only know how often the town recruiter can recruit, and I kept quiet about that in case the cult could not guess that. It was never a good reason, and I see I should reveal that much.

The town recruiter can recruit every other night, starting from the first night. My theory is that the recruiters can recruit on alternate nights, preventing conflicting recruitments. That would mean if anyone was recruited last night at all, it would have to be into the cult. This is bad news for Nolecub, since yesterday he claimed to be recruitable still.

Since I believe Gorny was the first town recruit, the town should have at most one recruit right now, possibly none. The cult has also lost one apparent recruit, so they will also have at most one, though they may have had more members to begin with.

My best guess is that the cult currently has two founding members alive and possibly one recruit. For the sake of town safety, we should expect the worse figure, meaning we had better start lynching correctly.

I think you underestimate your collective knowledge (your = you, Uraj and the townie recruiter). From there it becomes a process of elimination. You fight and eliminate anyone you can till you, Uraj and the townie recruiter are left with the cult recruiter. Lynch the cult recruiter. If you find the cult recruiter first, we lynch then.

Otherwise this would work, but if we were unlucky enough to eliminate pro-town players before getting to the cultists, we could lose the ability to lynch and with it lose the game.

On an unrelated note: Ankeli seems to be MIA. His last post was a week ago, where he asked me to give the names of both recruiting factions.

Ankeli has not posted this day phase, so he could be modkilled for inactivity. He has been online though, so his silence looks suspicious to me. I originally believed him town, but for a flawed reason. While looking for votes, I also noticed this post of his, directed at Bad Ash:

"Don't make me destroy you."

It is quoted from Darth Vader, and this was long before we'd had any fights, but it does look like Ankeli was confident about something. If it was about having high stats, he could be the recruiter.

I'd like you to name the groups if possible. My role description gave me possible knowledge of one role's name, and I'd like to compare my information with yours.

This was Ankeli's last post in thread. What I find interesting is that he speaks of specifically one role he might know the name of. I have a guess or two what that role might be, but I'd like to ask from a claimed peon if there is any specific role they would know of from their PM?



 
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Nothing here. All I have is a role (peon) name. (I choose ) and alignment. The only roles in play that I would know of are recruiters adventurers and cultists.
 
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I already know exactly what I am going to do and say the day I win as a village idiot, and I've never even had that role yet. But, the mere thought of it brings a smile to my face.
 
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I also think its odd that two people who were questioned jumped on board with nurman being voted. I feel like his lynch would reveal information about 2 people which is leaning me towards him. We have received such little information so far in this game that anything is worthwhile.

This post seemed to me like he knew nurman's alignment wanted to try to tie it to the first two voters. But at the same time didn't want to commit to voting nurman yet.


I was hoping to see Goryani's post by now.

With 25 minutes left Ankeli or Bad Ash seem good to me. Ankeli could get modkilled true but that rule doesn't seem to be enforced all that often. Or we could vote Leo.



 
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Not voting for leo. Not giving you the satisfaction sweetheart ;)

20 minutes left. Rolling a dice between Bad Ash and Ankeli.

Vote: Bad Ash

Though I doubt it matters with 20 minutes left. Hey, at least we got a mafia down.
 
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Vote: Bad Ash

I guess 5 votes needed to lynch?
 
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Leo, you seemed scummy to me, if that makes you feel better, you were getting my vote. I've always wanted the VI role...

I was just compiling all that information (votes, etc) and come back to this last page to see Feysal already got it... :bored:

Its more detailed than my would've been anyways, Thanks Feysal :)

Ankeli is in danger of being Modkilled, and Nurman has been killed due the the fight. Any ideas as to Ankeli's role?

I honestly don't have that big of a scum read of anyone now. Nurman was #1, then Leo, but they've both been figured out :\

I don't we'll have time for a Lynch (only a few minutes left I think) but with Nurmans death we've confirmed Feysal (which is huge) Leo is the VI and no threat, and Ankeli may be modkilled giving even more information. All in all, good day. Think we can get still get a lynch?
 
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