WW Ghost Assassin Guide V2.0

Re: WW Ghost Assassin Guide V2.0

@Fijay
if you have both fury and chaos in suwayyah, you can't reach 9 frame without BoS and huge sacrifices in dr% and resists.
you should swap suwayyah fury for runic or feral and then wsm bug (if you choose feral, you'll need highlord or ias jewel in your circlet)
 
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i emphasize more on physical dmg, but still don't have decent fools claw for high def opponents...

i have:
- 30ias fools runics with 2 sockets (filled with um runes)
- and recently i found 30ias fools feral with 293ed and only 1 free socket.
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Oh the irony; both are decent claws ^^.

The first is basically the typical Fools you want anyway, and the second has a high ED on it. Even with one socket, it's great.

I'd probably end up choosing the second one. :)

I got abit confused as many other noobs got when comming to clawbugging for WSM. Here is my situation, I have made two Suwayya claws with Fury and Chaos
where both claws are pritty good ( Fury - 3DF - 3Venom - 3 WB ) ( Chaos 340ed - 3 LS - 3 Venom - 3 MB ) However, I would like to know your tip of reaching the 9frame cap with these two? DO i have to switch out one claw for a runic talon and clawbug? Or can I fix it with a Highlord + Ias jewel in headitem? Should I switch both my claws?

What is your suggestion when it comes to this?
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If you run Highlords regularly, you get a base of 60IAS to work with.

Suwayyah + Suwayyah would need more (40 ish more, so pretty hard to do).

Suwayyah + Feral (WSM Bugging) is -30, so you need 42 IAS (the 60% covers it). The feral is stronger than a runic, and since speed is covered, you can get by with at least that and a runic for WSM bugging.

I would keep the Chaos as the claw you use.
 
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Thanks for informative replys, however I have two more noob questions to ask before im done.

1st: If i clawbug and die, does that mean that ill have to do it again? Even if I didnt switch weapon before/after doing it the last time before my death?

2nd: WoF stunlocking, got me quite curious, so I brought a friends necro ( Close to naked ) into a game where I wanted to see if skill lev1 WoF would stun him if hitted, and afaik he and I know he didnt recive any stuns, he was free to run around and never got a stun animation on his char, he also tested on a Paladin with 20% fhr in total, and still no effect. Is this changed in 1.13? Or is my noobness missing something here? :o

Thanks again for informative replys, most appriciated
 
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Fijay said:
Thanks for informative replys, however I have two more noob questions to ask before im done.

1st: If i clawbug and die, does that mean that ill have to do it again? Even if I didnt switch weapon before/after doing it the last time before my death?

2nd: WoF stunlocking, got me quite curious, so I brought a friends necro ( Close to naked ) into a game where I wanted to see if skill lev1 WoF would stun him if hitted, and afaik he and I know he didnt recive any stuns, he was free to run around and never got a stun animation on his char, he also tested on a Paladin with 20% fhr in total, and still no effect. Is this changed in 1.13? Or is my noobness missing something here? :o

Thanks again for informative replys, most appriciated
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1: yes.

2: did you hit him with a mindblast? you need to get the swirlies over their heads, then any time they make a damage check, they go into FHR.



 
Re: WW Ghost Assassin Guide V2.0

I was browsing old chars and found Chaos wielding sin there. Gear wise I'm good to go, just need Fury and the boots. It might take a while for insane rares to drop so I though about boot crafting. But which type, bloods?
 
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If you can't get the FHR / res rares you need, Treks can give you the FHR and a little life.
 
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OSzi said:
@Fijay
if you have both fury and chaos in suwayyah, you can't reach 9 frame without BoS and huge sacrifices in dr% and resists.
you should swap suwayyah fury for runic or feral and then wsm bug (if you choose feral, you'll need highlord or ias jewel in your circlet)
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I managed to find myself two good Feral Claws which I bought, and was wondering with Chaos and Fury in those gives me a total of 75%ias all in all on both claws. Following this guide i should have a AWSM on -20 which makes me require 56%ias or w/e.

So with these claws WSM bugging aint requried?

If I managed to understand this right then big cheer for noob legue :)

Ty for all replys


 
Re: WW Ghost Assassin Guide V2.0

Only the primary claw can add IAS. The other, secondary claw, will not add the IAS to the required total.
 
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Sass said:
Only the primary claw can add IAS. The other, secondary claw, will not add the IAS to the required total.
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Damnit, so its still required for me to clawbug for hitting it, or just equip HL instead of clawbugging?


 
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Sass said:
If you can't get the FHR / res rares you need, Treks can give you the FHR and a little life.
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Still seeking Res boots but using Gores atm. I have 40 FHR from circlet and rest from charms so that's pretty much covered.

Other thing about weapons... I have Chaos in feral claws (off hand) and in main 2 choices: Fool's greater claw with 40% IAS 2 MB and Fool's claw with extra 23 ar and ITD. Now I think ITD (and -25 def if I eth it) doesn't effect in PvP but why would Grief be considered bm in some melee circles if it didn't work?


 
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Hmm, FHR seems covered, but just in case, if you find 20% on boots, you can replace the Shael with some + life and / or res (it seems you need res, so probably look for that first).

Gores are certainly ncie boots for a little OW and maybe DS if you need it, but the res boots will probably be best once you find some :)

Correct on ITD; it won't work in pvp.

-Enemy Def% is cut in half, but works on total def (unlike skill affecting the skill's boost %).



For Grief, it's BM in melee because it'll trigger Venom (low res, it'll be huge damage with the further -res.) They (usually) have a set elemental damage limit, and venom would be a huge amount to a melee char.
 
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Just curious what physical damage (going with the physical damage build) should I be aiming for with 30x max/ar/life scs, 2x shadow lifers, and and non e glitched Chaos Suwayyah/Feral Fury?
 
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:S That'd be hard to say. The screen (before venom) shows maybe 1-2.5K. Most of that is phys, the rest is the elemental damage on claws, raven, etc.
 
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Question. So I've acquired the following claws:
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8380/clawsi.png

How should I set up my claws? If I use 2 suwayyahs, the chaos and the fury, then I'll be too slow on traps no? But at the same time is 9 frame trap speed really necessary? Help me with my build please!

Rest of my gear I plan is according to the guide: Enigma, 2/20/Dex/AR circlet, Raven, 10% FCR ring, Arach, Trang's gloves.

Left are: Claws, Amulet, and Boots. I'm thinking Highlord's for Amulet and Trek's for boots? Help!
 
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2x Suwayyah will indeed be too slow for traps, which are definitely important.

I'd set it up with the Chaos Suwayyah + Wraith Song. That'll have a WSM (bugged) of -30, so using Highlords gets you the max speed for traps.

Trek's should work fine.
 
Re: WW Ghost Assassin Guide V2.0

Hey there.
Just a little question I could not find myself a sufficient answer for.
I currently have access to a 40ias 2os runic fool's and a 30ias +2sin +2ls feral fool's. With WSM bugging I hit 9frame traps with both, so thats not that much of a deal. However, I was wondering how much of a difference 25% to 50% OW was, since I'm fairly new to this char and didn't see that much of a change in damage.
Am I right to assume that the lower chance is compensated by the better mods?(venom oriented) Or should I go for the 50% instead.

Thx in advance, it's great to see that an awesome guide like this still gets supported after all these years :thumbup:
 
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If it was just +2 to a tree I'd say no, but since it's +2 sin, I'd say it's worth using.
 
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I just got back to the game, used to run a ghost a few years back with much success.
However I can't for the life of me remember where you checked how much DR fade was giving you.

At what skill level does it give 50 dr?
 
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