Area 85 MF tournament 2009

potter · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

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Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    7        17       AT     No     p1      513
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509    6        13       AT     no     p1      290
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2         2       AT     No     p1        0
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    1:07      1       AT     No  p1/p5       10
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     604    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0 
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0 
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0     
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Did some fixing in the list whilst updating.
Ran for 50 mins yesterday getting only normal and exceptional s/u's (and no useful nor grailer ones)
The first 10 minutes today got me 2 qualifiers and 2 grailers. The next hour didn't do much though.

I'll probably run some more this evening.

pwangsta · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

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Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    7        17       AT     No     p1      513
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509    6        13       AT     no     p1      290
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2         2       AT     No     p1        0
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    1:07      1       AT     No  p1/p5       10
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Found 4 qualifiers. All junky ones, but w/e. Average time per run is 88 secs. I died several times early on, then swapped the Occy out for a HoTO. Times should be settling in at around 75-80 secs soon, as I get more familiar with the map and boss pack locations. I have no clue how the folks who are running in ~50 seconds are doing it though. Hats off to those guys. Good luck everyone!

Kimppi · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

For me it's about getting to "the zone" where you're sort of doing the whole thing pretty much completely mechanically. Also you should be teleporting pretty much all the time and killing only the bosses, don't linger! Knowing the boss locations enables you to skip the rest of the level too. You can also save some time if you talk to Warriv to travel to A1 and use that WP.

More on topic: Found a grailer qualifier just now that has been eluding me for some time. It's not too shabby either.

Trim · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

pwangsta said:
I have no clue how the folks who are running in ~50 seconds are doing it though. Hats off to those guys.

I'm waiting to see how many runs bassano gets in this time around. San and Machete are doing a heck of a job, too. Mega speed runs are beyond my means, as well, so big ups to them.

Four more hours done and just about wasted. Along with winning the tourment, one of my goals for this tourney was to find three grailers. ...and I'm failing at both accounts so far.

edit: Well, it's not like it's been a complete waste of time. I've netted a Mal, an Um, and an eth set of Titan's. I'd gladly forfeit the tournament if I found a high rune of two. :grin:

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Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    7        17       AT     No     p1      513
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2         2       AT     No     p1        0
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    1:07      1       AT     No  p1/p5       10
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Ohomemgrande1 · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

pwangsta said:
I have no clue how the folks who are running in ~50 seconds are doing it though. Hats off to those guys. Good luck everyone!

I'm hovering around 49.5 sec/run through 5 hours now and there are a couple of things I do.

1. Use the Act 1 trick. (saves several seconds)
2. Use telekenisis to open the waypoint, and the stash when needed.
3. Don't hunt down every boss-pack in the level. Once you know your map, hopefully you'll get one where there is some good boss-pack density in close proximity. For example, I once had a map that featured an "out-and-back" pattern --> 2 teleports to a place that normally had 2-3 packs in the area followed by 2 teleports to the chest pack. Then it was back the other direction through the adjacent corridor where I would normally hit 2-3 additional packs. With that map, I would reliably hit 4 packs with the possibility of 7-8 (or whatever the max is for AT). If I do get a run with only 4 packs, I still stop the run because I'll end up getting more kills/time that way than if I waste another 10 or so seconds trying to track down that last hiding bosspack that's far away from the main path. I figure that if I average 1 bosspack/10 seconds, then I'm running at just about the same efficiency of the 20 second Pindle run and that's good for me.
4. Always be moving and dropping Blizzards (or whatever spell you're using). At 105% FCR, I know that I have about 4.5 teleports or glacial spikes between Blizzard casts. therefore, I try to always use my 4 "free" spells to reposition or take down stragglers.
5. Speaking of FCR, don't underestimate the higher breakpoints. Sure it may only save 2-3 seconds/run, but at the times I'm running, that's a 5% decrease in run time. (it's also safer when you're blindly teleporting)
6. Call To Arms also makes blind teleporting safer :smug:
7. When things start to get stale, stop your runs and go looking for a new map. It's not too hard to find a good map for AT. I've had several "favorites" that I've ran in the past. The only real criteria I have is that the waypoint and entrance be about 2 teleports away.
8. Don't bother with weapon switch or merc kills. I'm going too fast to worry about all that. Therefore, my merc only exists to hold Insight and provide a prayer synergy (stupid overpowered RWM runeword but it's fun). As such, he's geared for survival against the elements. He wears Guardian Angel and Kira's hat to get his resistances to 90%. He's a very good tank and holds stuff in place (when he gets the chance).

I'm sure that I've got lots of room for improvement as well (my fastest runs are down near 30 seconds) If I can just do more of those and less of the 60-70 second runs, that would be good.

sirpoopsalot · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Ohomemgrande said:
... 1 bosspack/10 seconds...

Thanks for mentioning this - I was beginning to wonder why I couldn't get below ~70 seconds when folks were doing half of that. But I'm probably getting pretty close to that average overall, as I'm a little more thorough in picking through my map.

I'll get back into my runs shortly, as I lack the motivation to do large chunks all at once. I'll be picking away at this as time goes along.

Tubba Blubba · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Great tips. Now I just need to find a way to motivate myself. Any tips on that? >_>

NagisaFurukawa · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Tubba: My motivation comes from two things, namely 1) wanting to drop run time to something lower than last run, and 2) wanting to beat certain people on that list.

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pwangsta: Here's some stuff that I do in addition to what Ohomemgrande mentioned. My time is anywhere from 35 to 55 seconds depending on how much CI and bosspack in general spawn, plus how much time is directed to TV instead.

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1) From the startup screen, click SP, hit the enter key, then click Hell. Saves small amount of mouse movement.

2) If you keep your character's inventory in ATMA visible in the background while D2 is running (ie. windowed mode), you can hover over items while game is loading to see if whatever you picked up is worth your time to stash. Cuts down your muling time a tad.

3) Depending on map you have, damage you do, etc., it may be profitable to hit one pack, make one teleport to hit a nearby pack, then come back after you killed and check drops. I do this sometimes because my map is shaped like a "Q" almost.

4) Similar to what Ohgrande said, I know there are maybe 4 areas which have 90-100% chance of spawning 1 or 2 (sometimes 3) packs, so I always go there, and they are very close to each other. There are also 1 or 2 other locations which occasionally spawn a pack, but since it is not very time efficient to go there, I just skip it entirely.

5) If you run with CTA , you can use that to reduce your potion usage because of how game works. If my character has 800/1300 at the end of a game, it will load as 800/900, which becomes 1200/1300 after BO. On a similar note, I always make sure that I am running right as game loads / when switching acts / when dropping items / etc. (not sure how to explain this), plus I weapon switch to CTA while running to TK the waypoint in Act 1 to save another half second or so.

There's so many ways to cut corners here and there.

. That probably isn't the half of it.

frozzzen1 · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Code:

Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    7        17       AT     No     p1      513
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2         2       AT     No     p1        0
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    1:16      4       AT     No     p1        0
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    1:07      1       AT     No  p1/p5       10
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         5       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Time: 1:16 and found 5 qualifiers, 2 were same ( and junk ) one was low point, but put a smile on my face and one will probably be top 5.

So far so good

And one more tip: Don't pick all Rejuv potions that drop

San · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Code:

Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    9        24       AT     No     p1      787
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2         2       AT     No     p1        0
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    1:07      1       AT     No  p1/p5       10
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Got 2 hours of runs done again, 184 runs this time, and picked up 7 qualifiers. Non-qualifiers? One SC, with 14 life and 34 AR, Eye of the Ethlic, 3 Manald Heal's, of which two dropped on consecutive runs, and an eth Skin of the Vipermagi, with 20% all res. Awesomely bad roll there.

Re-made my fastest-run record once again: 27.782, this time I didn't have that many champions, everything just went extra smoothly, and the Blizz's connected unnaturally well.

Nice advice there Ohmomehmoh and Nagisa, I don't really have much to add there, except that there's one thing about using Blizzard, aiming. Unlike Fireball, or Lightning, you should never target the boss with your Blizzard, but instead aim slightly to the lower left/right off the boss, and try to keep him moving by positioning yourself appropriately with teleport, to maximize Blizz hits. Also, I must really recommend getting to know your map like the back of your hand, and acquaint yourself with one pattern in which you bump into the usual spawn places of the bosses.

scottee · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Code:

Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    9        24       AT     No     p1      787
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2:45      4       AT     No     p1        0
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    1:07      1       AT     No  p1/p5       10
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Well, found another 2 qualifiers, but I'm shuddering at my point total so far

Tubba Blubba · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

NagisaFurukawa said:
Tubba: My motivation comes from two things, namely 1) wanting to drop run time to something lower than last run, and 2) wanting to beat certain people on that list.

Well, I used to be able to do Pindle runs for 2-3 hours on end, now I feel frustrated after 10 AT runs, maybe I burned myself out a bit. Oh well.

Rummski · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

The key for me Tubba is to run with a char that you want the experience for, not only to get some drops. Also put another goal than just TC87s, maybe collect charms or sockets or anything that drops more often it'll give you the feeling of accomplishment that can sometimes be lacking from MF runs.

Good Luck all!

horseheadnebula · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Code:

Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    9        24       AT     No     p1      787
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    7:32      8       AT     No     p1      130
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2:45      4       AT     No     p1        0
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Little over one third of the time has spent. found 7 more quolifiers. have to say that your number of runs is amazing :crazyeyes: seems that i suck a lot more what i thought

maareek · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

@Tubba: To me, if I'm not motivated to do the runs, I just don't do them. You've got almost a month left in this tournament, so if you don't feel like doing runs, don't. You'll probably get the urge back during the month, or near the end when it's down to the wire and you realize you need to finish and then you can just cram them all in at the end and not be worried about motivation.

Personally I can't stand to run Pindle but I'll gladly jump at any excuse to run AT. If one target doesn't do it for you, find another. You can enter a different char and run the Pits or something, if you want, assuming I understand the rules properly.

@Ohomemgrande: nice advice. BTW, maximum bosspacks in AT is 9 - 8 random, 1 static (by the chest); at least that's the most I've found. Unless you count Monster Shrines. Also, I agree with you on aiming for 10 seconds per bosspack and under, though the generally accepted equivalence factor for Pindle running is a bosspack per 15 seconds (which seems accurate to me). Granted, with faster Pindle running than average that factor decreases.

For myself, I find being at 105% FCR helps me feel faster, which helps make me run faster. The actual statistical difference isn't much, but I find it greatly helps me psychologically. I don't identify anything, I just throw it all in the stash for whatever project I'm on and keep running, there's time for ID'ing later. If there's a branch or multiple bosspacks, I drop a blizz on one, go after the others then come back to pick up loot. Also, if you're going to pick up gold (don't know if anybody does, but it can't hurt to point it out), only pick up gold from champions.

Lastly, if you have a branch of your map that only spawns a bosspack once every 10 runs or so, don't even go down there. Not worth your time.

Fast running comes down to making common sense decisions and willfully choosing to do efficient runs as quickly as possible. I find it also helps to not even focus on what's dropping while you're running. I just tell myself "If I do x number of runs in this tournament (or whatever), something nice will drop" then work towards that number. I'll sometimes go two hours or so without what would count as a qualifier (did ~150 runs in the January MFO this year with no qualifiers or even a good non-qualifier, for instance) and not even notice until I'm done, that's just not my focus.

sirpoopsalot · Sep 30, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

My motivation is to see if FrostNova sorc can compete well with a Blizzsorc in AT, and hopefully knock some cookie-cutter out of the Top 5 or Top 10 in the process.

I've also probably done ~10 of these types of tournaments, and iirc my best was like a 5th in a Mephathon. Every other tournament like this, I've finished well into the bottom half despite usually having above average MF and below average run times.

So my main goal is to finally get ONE nice qualifier in one of these things (I'm surely due by now) and hopefully crawl into the top10 as a result. I'll believe it when it happens though. One of the last 8 items for my self-found grail would be a nice start too.

*****
I'm up to 4 qualifiers in 4 hours now. Two of those will have a chance for my top5 unless I get better luck. I'll run some more later, so I'll update properly then.

scottee · Oct 1, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Code:

Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    9        24       AT     No     p1      787
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    7:32      8       AT     No     p1      130
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2:55      6       AT     No     p1        ?
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    2:30      1       AT     No     p1     ~115
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

Ran for a litle over an hour, got two more qualifiers- but not counting my very first qualifier that dropped (an IK maul

) anymore has sure helped my point total out a lot!

Ohomemgrande1 · Oct 1, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

sirpoopsalot said:
My motivation is to see if FrostNova sorc can compete well with a Blizzsorc in AT, and hopefully knock some cookie-cutter out of the Top 5 or Top 10 in the process.

I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen. I think the advantage FN has over Bliz is that it always connects. You can then be more consistent in your run times and probably be equivalent in your speed. Then the only variable will be how much MF you can pack on your character.

sirpoopsalot · Oct 1, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Another (small) advantage is that almost everything in a pack dies at the same time, except for the boss. Usually by the time the pack dies the boss is at less than ~half life, and it only takes the merc a single poke to finish him off.

But you're right that stocking MF vs. other needs (damage & FCR) is definitely the biggest problem. Nightwings vs. Shako... Chilling vs. MF charms, etc... much easier to pull impressive numbers together with the blizzsorc (but less fun to play, imo).

Another problem is getting close, but not too close, to packs. Some of these guys hurt, yet I need to be pretty close to get in range. I've had ~5 deaths already, though I'm not trying overly hard to be extremely safe. I've managed to go from level 83 to 88 already, which seems to help. As does the fact that I've probably already tripled my experience running AT in this tournament.

*****
I was pretty motivated today, and managed to make a pretty good jump in time. I might make another stab at it later tonight, but I think not.

I also got a few more qualifiers, including one that's Top5 material for sure (though it's not especially useful) and some other tidbits.

Code:

Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    9        24       AT     No     p1      787
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    7:45     20       AT     no     p1      320
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    7:32      8       AT     No     p1      130
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    5:40      7       AT     No     p1     ~240
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2:55      6       AT     No     p1        ?
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

LD50 · Oct 1, 2009

Re: Area 85 MF tournament 2009

Nice advice for all the runners! :thumbsup: I'm probably somewhere around 1:30 per run, and that's not coming down until I stop picking up gems, gold, rings and stuff..

I rolled a new map, and the new one already gave a couple of nice non-qualifiers, namely eth vamp gaze and eth guardian angel :smug:

Also, while rolling the map, got this:

Rune Turn
Ring
Required Level: 48
Fingerprint: 0xc6d13f00
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+49 to Attack Rating
2% Mana stolen per hit
6% Life stolen per hit
+14 to Dexterity
+20 Maximum Stamina
All Resistances +10

Code:

Player             Character       Class         MF  Time(h) Qualifier  Area    HC?    /p?     Run#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kefka              Bellok_Hdin     Paladin       300   11:30     16       AT     No     P5      198
TRM                SclerosesReigns Sorceress     509   10        27       AT     no     p1      487
LD50               Lumi            Sorceress     550    9:30     21       AT     no     p1      400
San                Cheyenne        Sorceress     533    9        24       AT     No     p1      787
Machete            Stormy          Sorceress     384    8        20       AT    Yes     p1      445
Chairnick          Gendale         Sorceress    ~400    8        18       AT     No     p1      179
Horseheadnebula    Sirius          Sorceress     455    7:32      8       AT     No     p1      130
Jason Maher        Wetherill       Druid     409/482    7:21     1!       AT     No     p1      ~65
CorruptedMollusk   FrigidHotPants  Sorceress    ~550    7        15       AT     No     p3      180
Kimppi             Kylmyys         Sorceress     476    6        18       AT     no     p1      357
potter             Ral_Tasha       Sorceress 444/519    6        11       AT     No     p1     ~200
poops              Athena          Sorceress     275    5:40      7       AT     No     p1     ~240
nepeta             Miserere        Amazon        200+   5         3     Pits            p8        0
Thomh              Mozzarella      Paladin   328/559    5        13      Pit     Yes p7/p1      137
Sir Lister Of Smeg Snowstorm       Sorceress 250/375    4:55      3       AT     No     p3      ~74
Nagisa             Hayate          Sorceress     391+   4:13     19       AT            p1      308
Nirolo             Khalla          Sorceress     454    4        12       AT     No     p1      185
EmperorMoo         Baronet         Fishy         323    3:10      0     Pits    Yes     p3      ~13
Ohgrande           Blizz           Sorceress     577    3:09      7       AT     No     p1      221
Albatross          Divinity        Sorceress     409    3:04      2      WSK     No     p1       16
nubi               Twang           Amazon       ~320    3         2      Pit     No     p3        0
Kassul             Sastrugi        Sorceress     448    2:58      4       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            Denver          Sorc         ~350    2:55      6       AT     No     p1        ?
Pyrohemia          Maud-Dib        Paladin       425    2:30     10      Pit     No     p8       76
pwangsta           Andrea          Sorceress     553    1:22      4       AT     No     p1       56
Tubba              LookAboveYouMep Sorceress     304    1:07      7       AT     No     p1       35
Friiser            PureBlizzard    Sorceress     707    1         1       AT     No     p8       10
Rummski            Milenko         Necromancer   315    1         1     Pits     No     p5       11
Nagisa             Teana           Amazon        185+   1         2     Pits            p1       17
Drizzy             Aerie           Sorceress     466    1         4       AT            p7       35
Low Key            Ilyana          Amazon        226    0:20      1      Pit     No     p3        4
bassano            Blizzardmaster  Sorceress     640    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Ariadna         Sorceress     450    0         0       AT            p1        0
RIP                Grom            Barbarian 400/550    0         0      Pit            p1        0
krovak             Hylinda         Sorceress     411    0         0       AT    yes     p1        0
Kimppi             Salamamuija     Sorceress     391    0         0      Pit     no     p3        0
TRM                Meteoric_Fault  Amazon        300    0         0       AT     no     p1        0
sequana            Orion           Sorceress     321    0         0       AT         p5/p7        0
frozzzen           CoTa            Sorceress    ~400    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
scottee            LeBorgia        Necro         TBA    0         0     Pits     No     p1        0
Neksja             Cheeser         Paladin       521    0         0    Mauso     No     p8        0
Grisu              Langnese        Sorceress     595    0         0       AT    Yes     p1        0
Thomh              IKWhirler       Barbarian     300    0         0     Pits    Yes     p1        0
JudgeDread         MC_Hammer       Paladin       395    0         0     Pits     No     p8        0
Joosh              Clare           Sorceress     TBA    0         0   RoF/CS     No  p1/p3        0  
iloco              Coraline        Sorceress     466    0         0       AT     No     p1        0    
Jahgro             GraveRobber     Necromancer   400    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Machete            RideTheMaul     Barbarian     222    0         0      Pit    Yes     p3        0
Mursilis           Hades           Fishymancer   331    0         0      WSK     No     p1        0
Caly               DairyQueen      Sorceress     TBA    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
Jason Maher        Rhiannon        Amazon        TBA    0         0      Pit     No     p1        0
maareek            Blizzy          Sorceress     TBD    0         0       AT     No     p1        0
DX                 Multizon        Amazon        430    0         0      PIT     No     p7        0
Mungo              Inlore          Barbarian 744/814    0         0     pits     No     p3        0
Kefka              Sauron          PitNec        ???    0         0      PIT     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Cyanide         Necro         327    0         0     Pits     No     P3        0    
jjscud             Ragnarod        Paladin       221    0         0   CS/RoF     No     P7        0

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