OT: The SPF Mafia Game Round Three

[Rashiminos]

How can you be 100% sure that he's not the doctor?

I went to sleep Friday night knowing muzz hadn't been active since 11:xx Wednesday, thereby s/he hadn't seen his/her role, and skoolbus said the doctor had sent a PM about 12 hours earlier.

 

[goltar25]

Well, I'll summarize skoolbus's game posts earlier in this thread...

On Monday he said he was going to start the game in about 72 hours.

On Thursday, after my post where I was excited the game was going to start soon, skoolbus said he would pm the roles in a couple of hours.

There was opportunity enough for you to know when the game started. Certain events have drawn attention to the fact you were slow to catch.

You can't realistically expect everyone else to be that heavily detail oriented. Or to not have real life interruptions. This isn't setting aside a few hours to play with a group of people nearby, this is online, quite probably spanning several weeks.

Now granted, muzzz may very well have a special role. But not necessarily. I've got a few ideas at this point of who is likely to be mafia, and muzzz is not high on that list.

 

[LORD NIKON]

Would you like to share with us? Holding back on info can be quite disastrous, as I have seen myself.

 

[skoolbus1]

Just to clarify, those are last activity times, as I couldn't make use of forum tools to determine login times, not that they would be relevant. I was looking for a connection between active players and the host posting the death message, but the mafia pulled a 'slow and inactive' one. Now I'm sure skoolbus may institute a reasonable delay in posting such messages, but I don't think he'd wait past the 48 hour mark (or close to that anyways) if he wasn't waiting on a message from them.

I was waiting on pm's from multiple people. I also think using log in times is very cheesy. As I was waiting a while for pm's and then started a long time after I got my last one. Also as people have pointed out, you can stay logged in indefinately, or check and not be logged in at all.

Just got to skunkbelly's post.

All this talk of checking people's visit history and posting times strikes me as extremely, extremely cheesy. Why not play the game the way it's meant to be played?

Skoolbus, might a rule change/addition be in order here?

I'm not entirely sure what I can do. I can't stop people from checking it if they really want to go that in depth. I suppose I could have people message me on msn, or email, or pm me, so those would be completely useless. But I do agree it's not really in the spirit of the game. I don't think any more discussion of people's login times needs to be done in this thread, just keep the information to yourself.

So in light of what you said in your previous post, does the vigilante indeed have to pm Skoolbus every night? I assumed only the night (s)he's kills, which is why I wrote what I wrote. On the other hand, in the previous game I had to send a message saying I would not be witnessing that first night when I wasn't witnessing you killing Sint, it might be similar for the vigilante having to say (s)he's not killing that night.

On another note, you said six or seven people have to pm Skoolbus each night. That would be: cop, doctor, crooked detective, mafia, (assuming I was wrong earlier) vigilante, I only count five then, unless the masons have to show their conversation to Skoolbus (just to make things more interesting for Skoolbus). I hope I'm not forgetting any roles, I counted the mafia as one person in the above since one should be enough to communicate their murderous intent to Skoolbus.

The vigilante does need to pm me each night, that way I don't assume they aren't going to murder someone, when they actually want to, and I accidently start the day before they get a chance to pm me.

The masons and mafia do not need to show me any of their conversations, but they certainly are interesting nonetheless.

Also, just so I don't keep day going indefinately, if you plan on NOT lynching someone, can you just do Vote: No One, so I don't extend the day when the majority of you have no intention of lynching.

 

[Rashiminos]

I'm not entirely sure what I can do. I can't stop people from checking it if they really want to go that in depth. I suppose I could have people message me on msn, or email, or pm me, so those would be completely useless. But I do agree it's not really in the spirit of the game. I don't think any more discussion of people's login times needs to be done in this thread, just keep the information to yourself.

Hint taken.

 

[Rashiminos]

You can't realistically expect everyone else to be that heavily detail oriented. Or to not have real life interruptions. This isn't setting aside a few hours to play with a group of people nearby, this is online, quite probably spanning several weeks.

Now granted, muzzz may very well have a special role. But not necessarily. I've got a few ideas at this point of who is likely to be mafia, and muzzz is not high on that list.

Forgive me, but I kind of thought volunteering to this game implied being able to read the thread at least once every 24 hours, and that real life complications would at least be mentioned to the host, so arrangements could be made.

 

[TouchOfInsanity]

Forgive me, but I kind of thought volunteering to this game implied being able to read the thread at least once every 24 hours, and that real life complications would at least be mentioned to the host, so arrangements could be made.

For the most part, yes but most people can get away without doing it as long as it isn't regularly. It only takes on mafia member to kill someone, townies without additional roles do not have to vote, under any circumstances, although voting would be beneficial to their ability to win. Sometimes thing pop-up that are unavoidable; i.e. taking an extra shift at work, power outage, etc., etc.

 

[Rashiminos]

For the most part, yes but most people can get away without doing it as long as it isn't regularly. It only takes on mafia member to kill someone, townies without additional roles do not have to vote, under any circumstances, although voting would be beneficial to their ability to win. Sometimes thing pop-up that are unavoidable; i.e. taking an extra shift at work, power outage, etc., etc.

Only takes one mafia member, hmm...

Yeah, I know what you mean about power outages, been having a few too many of them around here...

 

[Rashiminos]

Well, going back to some previous posts, and reviewing certain contradictions/ changes of opinions, I'm going to start the crucible and vote someone...

Vote: Jaago

 

[Brak]

All this talk of checking people's visit history and posting times strikes me as extremely, extremely cheesy. Why not play the game the way it's meant to be played?

Skoolbus, might a rule change/addition be in order here?

Second this request. if it hasn't already been instituted haven't had time to read the whole thread.

 

[Brak]

Back to the issue of wether or not to lynch. I don't think the lack of a murder has any implication on the lynching. Who dies the first night gives very little information to the townies. Really what we should be thinking about is do we want to take the risk of killing the village idiot when the mafia have given us a free pass on the first day to gather information. I say we're in the same boat if the mafia did or did not kill anyone last night.

Also I find it odd no one's speculating on the lack of crooked detective activity. So was it one mafia that screwed them all, or were all of them out to lunch at the start of this?

 

[Brak]

Clarification of above "same boat" refers to same amount of information. The situation is actually quite different.

 

[RevenantsKnight]

Second this request. if it hasn't already been instituted haven't had time to read the whole thread.

Mental hospital's a few town's over, so you can go ahead and take it down there to be institutionalized, if you like, and-

...oh, wait, you said "instituted." Yes, yes it has.

In the meantime, I suspect the Mafia were off cooking last night instead of doing anything dastardly. You've got to wait for the oil to be ready before making arancini, after all.

 

[Sir Lister of Smeg]

I don't want to lynch anyone just yet. People who are behaving suspiciously now are equally likely to be village idiot, townies (as we've seen in the previous two games), and mafia. There are a few people that are behaving very suspiciously though. Muzzz (sorry I don't really buy the bad wording), Thyiad, RevenantsKnight, and then there's some others whose comments made me suspicious, but less so.

However, since it's equally likely for them to be mafia and village idiot, in addition, Muzzz might well have another night role such as cop or vigilante so I would not want to lynch him straight away, I think it's not a good idea to lynch anyone at the moment.

Vote: No One

 

[GoHabsGo]

Vote: No One

 

[Sir Lister of Smeg]

Basically an edit of my above post, but since we should not edit are posts I put it in a separate post.

Thyiad and Revenantsknight are in fact more likely to be village idiot than mafia, since both have been fairly active. To me it does seem more likely that Muzzz has some night role for good or for bad than that (s)he is village idiot, I won't rule it out though.

 

[Brak]

I'm voting for one of the three non-posters (Drixx, Neksja, Jaedhann). Waiting for them to voice an explanation.

 

[goltar25]

Would you like to share with us? Holding back on info can be quite disastrous, as I have seen myself.

Well, Rashiminos just jumped way up with his vote. Lister and Habs too, for the same reason, though not quite as much. Thyiad has been at the top for her early accusations being thrown around, and RevenantsKnight was higher up, but is moving a little further down. Jaedhann, Drixx, and Neksja haven't said a word today, and that's very suspicious to me. Sint hasn't either, but he was around with the noisy crowd last night, so he's a little less suspicious.

I'm not voting just yet, it's still too early to tell much of anything, and I'm still not convinced one way or the other if we should lynch someone.

 

[goltar25]

Basically an edit of my above post, but since we should not edit are posts I put it in a separate post.

Thyiad and Revenantsknight are in fact more likely to be village idiot than mafia, since both have been fairly active. To me it does seem more likely that Muzzz has some night role for good or for bad than that (s)he is village idiot, I won't rule it out though.

True, that's something I'd considered, but thanks for reminding me. They're still suspicious to me, but we'll see what happens.

 

[Jaago]

I'm voting for one of the three non-posters (Drixx, Neksja, Jaedhann). Waiting for them to voice an explanation.

You forgot Sint. (not counting that one odd remark he made during the night.)

I'm not going to vote before I've heard of them all.

Vote: Jaago

:shocked: Wow, somebody has a short fuse, like ones with Mediterranean blood (heh). However, I won't vote you back because you're on my list of obvious townies along with Thyiad, Cygnus and Muzzz (and myself :tongue. Though it does seem most of you people disagree on this list, fine by me.