What will you make come new season?

[Nighthavk]

What will you make come new season?

Inspired with Zap's recent thread.

#1 Summoner Necro I'm gonna start off with a summoner, get my perfect gems, random gear along the way. This will later be my keys / organs / torch runner.

#2 Tal-Rasha Blizzard Sorceress This is my prized mf runner. I'll run it Andariel - Mephisto - Pindle (Usually takes less than three minutes total). I usually don't like sorcs all that much, but I'll need a MF char and well, having a Hammerdin for tha role is kind of counterproductive early in the ladder. I might eventually move on to a hammerdin if I want faster key runs but still this sorc will kill the bosses for basic tradable loots. Besides, aphorementioned bosses die so fast with hammer or not, the more MF the better.

Then later on a baba for torch hunting, probably... Then again, I hate Phase Blades, so I might go with a smiter instead. Will see.

 

[oOmpie]

Re: What will you make come new season?

Already posted in Zap's thread, but here goes again. Things that are going through my mind:
spear/polearm leaper for style points.
fendazon if fend gets fixed.
kicker.
frost zealer.
sploder/support necro perhaps for KTA.

 

[MYK]

Re: What will you make come new season?

It's hard to say what I'll build. If 1.13 doesn't break any of the current builds, I'd likely build a LF/PJ 'Zon. If it does break the current builds, I'll be testing the new ones. :thumbup:

Then later on a baba for torch hunting, probably... Then again, I hate Phase Blades, so I might go with a smiter instead. Will see.

The last time I looked there are tons of weapons for Barbs to use. :whistling:

 

[Nighthavk]

Re: What will you make come new season?

The last time I looked there are tons of weapons for Barbs to use. :whistling:

For one handed, there's nothing else to use but a phase blade, really...

I'm all for different builds *when* built optimally. If I were to play a barb, anything else but PB would be a waste (at least as far as going sword and board).

 

[Tai.1]

Re: What will you make come new season?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but can't a barbarian use oh I don't know: Berserker Axes, Ethereal Oath Highland Blades or just about anything they damn well please with a shield? Not even assuming any sort of dupe-riddled economy like last patch which makes many things better than a phase blade.

The only phase I can think you might have meant is a Grief and that's an odd combination of duped but not ideal, while being an inefficient use of said item compared to some of the Paladin possibilities.

Cheers
-Tai

 

[MoUsE_WiZ]

Re: What will you make come new season?

I was considering making an SP editor to kill time over summer with. Does that count?

 

[Nighthavk]

Re: What will you make come new season?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but can't a barbarian use oh I don't know: Berserker Axes, Ethereal Oath Highland Blades or just about anything they damn well please with a shield? Not even assuming any sort of dupe-riddled economy like last patch which makes many things better than a phase blade.

The only phase I can think you might have meant is a Grief and that's an odd combination of duped but not ideal, while being an inefficient use of said item compared to some of the Paladin possibilities.

Cheers
-Tai

For Weapon + Board, Phase Blade is the only viable option without gimping yourself, because of its -30 weapon speed. That's it.

Should you use it just because it's the fastest... no. See; I don't. But also for that exact reason I usually don't play barbs with weapon + board, because anything other than PB I'd know I'd be gimping myself and PB looks ugly as hell.

 

[MYK]

Re: What will you make come new season?

For Weapon + Board, Phase Blade is the only viable option without gimping yourself, because of its -30 weapon speed. That's it.

Should you use it just because it's the fastest... no. See; I don't. But also for that exact reason I usually don't play barbs with weapon + board, because anything other than PB I'd know I'd be gimping myself and PB looks ugly as hell.

Besides the damage and speed, Grief, in a Phase Blade or not, offers nothing useful for Uber hunting on a Barbarian.

Unless you're using empires worth of duped gear, there are better options. Of course, we're already talking about throwing a Grief around, so I'll assume that dupes are included as par for the course with regards to the rest of your equipment.

But whatever, the whole "X is most efficient; nothing else is viable" thing makes me feel sick to my stomach. Enjoy.

 

[xXxfunbobxXx]

Re: What will you make come new season?

This is if current synergy system stays the same etc
#1 Max Static Chant Sorc I had alotta fun running with this char last ladder and if i play a groupp style environment that would be my first choice
#2 Conviction avenger/zealot or Frost Zealot im not sure but some kind of melee palidan
Trap Assasin/Summon Necro/ Blizzard Sorc these are my other chars that i wil possible make
Some kind of barb either pure ware cry some kind of zerk or frenzy

 

[MrKaxe]

Re: What will you make come new season?

Tempted to make a FA zon so that Ivan can blast the frozen gits with his Trapper he will (probably) make on restart although we are both hoping for some changes...especially Druid pet's AI...if they fix that, i'll make a Pets Druid!

 

[Nighthavk]

Re: What will you make come new season?

Besides the damage and speed, Grief, in a Phase Blade or not, offers nothing useful for Uber hunting on a Barbarian.

I don't see how you got Grief from my post - I would actually go with Last Wish. Oh well.

But whatever, the whole "X is most efficient; nothing else is viable" thing makes me feel sick to my stomach. Enjoy.

Sure. But all I meant is - for example, I had a WWsin, and plan on making one again. WWsin is by far is NOT the best PvM build out there, but I like it. However, if I'm to play a WWsin, I should max its capacities - which means either a Runic or Greater Talon weapon only, for the fast speed, again. I just don't like gimping myself or my chars. <.< But hey, that's just me.

 

[MYK]

Re: What will you make come new season?

I don't see how you got Grief from my post - I would actually go with Last Wish. Oh well.

Last Wish is good. I just didn't think you would use such a low damage weapon.
There's a sort of balance between damage and Crushing Blow. Grief sits on the former end, Last Wish sits on the latter end. Death in an ethereal base sits in a nice comfortable spot in between.

In the realm of theoretical gear and the like, Death is one of my first picks for an Uber hunter.

Though, once you breach the high rune-wall, you reach the terminal velocity where when comparing best high runeword and the second best high runeword really aren't going to kill much faster at all unless you go to lengths to load your ubers with lots of people, skyrocketing monster life. Even some of the elite uniques do just as good as the high runewords can.
Case in point: I watched AgentMarth's smiter armed with a Heavens Light kill an Uber in UT just as fast as Yak's Grief smiter did They literally finished their kills at the same moment...

But now we're way off topic from where this thread started. :crazyeyes:

 

[Raver]

Re: What will you make come new season?

I think I'm just going to copy whatever Myk does to start the season and then just say it was my idea and he's actually copying me.

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: What will you make come new season?

Well I started this ladder with a fishy necro - he was good at starting - helping out the legions of soso builds - ancients etc

But as Kaxe mentioned I'm comsidering a trapper - but it really depends on what they change - if monster changes are incoming then a complete re-exam will be required before i start.

But I was considering

Trapper
Conc Barb
Zerker Barb
Soso - not sure which
Maybe even starting with support character - Elton John Barb, Uber Smiter, Chanter but my first character I like to get up the ladder so who knows!

Will be fun on the run!

And yes I hope druid summoners are not gimped again.

 

[pedroREE]

Re: What will you make come new season?

I think I'm just going to copy whatever Myk does to start the season and then just say it was my idea and he's actually copying me.

LOL win!

I'm going to only one character next season and take it to 99 (lol) so the decision of what to make has been a difficult one. I'm tossing the idea around on the following in order of preference at the moment:

1) Bone Necro
2) IK Barb
3) Summon/Ubermancer
4) Plague Javelin
5) Poison Necro


I had a boner early this ladder who died, and I've been itching to get him back up and running.

 

[Murloc]

Re: What will you make come new season?

I'm going to start with a trapper as my quick semi-high level mf runner.
My real star down the road will hopefully be a cold maiden assassin but I'd also like to try a javazon since I've never tried the jav route and a 1 pt smiter.

 

[HanShotFirst]

Re: What will you make come new season?

Hey there biffbickerton! I don’t know if you remember me but we played some in the fall before I left for useast (or did you quit? . . I can’t really remember). How did this ladder season play out for you?

As for my first character I will be doing the same thing that I did last ladder reset (hey, it worked). The difference will be that I will be doing it on classic useast hcl where I know that I won’t be competing directly or indirectly against enigmadins and where everyone’s immense stockpiles of fg will not let them buy anything that much greater than what I can actually find myself. Anyways, I’m looking forward to chasing a ladder free of enigmadins and will be doing so with:

1) Bone Necro (which I plan to invest most of my leveling efforts into)
2) Orb/Tele Sorc (for mfing and rushing)

Past this my plans are soft and are bound to be based on whatever I find but I am looking to make at some point a beserker, strafezon, and some myriad assortment of unusual melee paladins.

 

[hobbsc]

Re: What will you make come new season?

1. Probably another cheapsin (budget pvm assassin). Just started one and I'm really enjoying it.

2. As usual, another 'zerker or frenzy barb.

3. Probably a bone or summoner necro.

I rarely every play any other classes then those. Once in a while, I'll toss in a druid if I'm feeling really wacky.

 

[MrBill]

Re: What will you make come new season?

BTW : Kind of misunderstood the point of the thread, until I went back and re-read it... so to directly answer the question, "Probably a Poison Necro." May also try some kind of build that I have never done before, like maybe an Assassin Kicker. -- Mr. Bill

Now as for what would provide an incentive to come back, at all...

(1.) Eliminate TPPK once and for all.

(2.) Fix other cheats, hacks and exploits.

(3.) Get rid of TPPK permanently. Characters caught using TPPK are immediately deleted from the Realm, as are the accounts containing the offending characters. :evil:

(4.) Fix Nightmare FE bug.

(5.) Automatic "rust storm" upon entering any Battle.Net session. Each High Rune, plus each Rune of "Lum" level or higher, assigned a unique identifier ID when it either drops or is cubed on Realm play, and that identifier is assigned as an attribute of the (single, unique) character who possesses the rune; each time that such a Rune is used or is added to a Runeword weapon, it is compared against the database of "which character legally owns / possesses it", if the current character doesn't match that value, the character trying to use the (duped) rune is instantly deleted from the Realms. (That ought to fix, or at least slow down, the cheaters and dupers.)

(6.) Try to make some of the "useless" (nerfed or bugged) skills more interesting (that is fix them.) Prime examples would be Paladin Sanctuary magic damage, Sorceress / Druid Inferno / Arctic Blast damage, Necromancer Blood and Fire Golems, Barbarian Grim Ward, Paladin Holy Fire, Amazon Fend, Druid Spirit of Barbs and Poison Creeper vine, Necromancer Iron Maiden, Paladin Thorns aura and so on.

The game could be significantly improved with very little real work on Blizzard's part, simply by fixing skills whose characteristics were screwed up in earlier patches.

(7.) Did I mention, "eliminate TPPK"? (How about, "track down IP address of TPPKer, then launch $50 million lawsuit for "copyright infringement" against the player owning the account.) [After all, the RIAA does it if you get caught with one (1) supposedly "pirated" .mp3. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I sorta like the idea of rough justice, here.]

But I'm a pessimist, so if we get one out of the above 7, I'll consider that a "win".

Cheers

Mr. Bill

 

[xXxfunbobxXx]

Re: What will you make come new season?

I agree with you on the tppk removal cause then i could actually have more fun in public games but uh; even if they consistently ruststormed(i doubt the will) it will be impossible to get rid of duped runes cause of the cube recipies they added in 1.10 that allow you to upgrade them etc