Viet's Updated Mage Guide

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Against blizz a pally has the luxury to switch his shield for a nice 200+ cold res one.40 from hoto (not too expensive),30 from trangs,about 20 from amulet (be it rare,crafted or mara's), 30 from boots .320 right there with ring slots open and shield the only compromise.
 
did anyone of u tried to use a dream circlet vs druids?
i use holy shock and switch to conz and conv... the only problem would be the lack of dr
 
me too. but i thought it would be fine to get hs from dream so you dont need to switch all the time...
the only problem is that i play non ladder and dont wanne get a expensive dream only to test if its realy usefull
 
MadriK said:
me too. but i thought it would be fine to get hs from dream so you dont need to switch all the time...
the only problem is that i play non ladder and dont wanne get a expensive dream only to test if its realy usefull
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Not a good idea. Ive tried this and failed. Your helm slot shouldnt be wasted on dream. especially when the damage range is so unreliable, it could take forever to kill off the lil puppies.

Mages have a lot easier time against windies than hammerdins do since they have foh to make the druid come to your hammer fields, and since good hammerdins are capable of killing good windies, i say you dont even need dream.



 
let's not forget about 3 extremely powerful ingredients:

1) 10% fcr/prismatic rings
2) +2/10% fcr/prismatic amulets
3) silence zerker axes (+2, 75 resists, and a usable charge damage level for those pesky non-pally caster types :p)

granted, #1 & #2 are extremely rare, but they ARE obtainable, no doubt.

also, 75% fcr & 86% fhr can be achieved easily without relying on charms. life on charms goes further than making up for a lack of fhr or str/dex with charms.
 
Im making a mage Hammer/Foh and ill be following your exact guide to it...
Just abit of a change with the gear

Griffons
Hoto
Enigma
BK/Raven
Treks
Skillbelt
Trang
HOZ with 5/5 light facet

My question is i am able to buy +2 pala ammy with 19 fcr and some other mods...Is this worth the buy?

100+19 = 119 =P

Any suggestions how to reach last break point? fcr ring im guessing...just wondering if the sacrifice in skill/raven is worth the 125 BP
 
RazCotton said:
Im making a mage Hammer/Foh and ill be following your exact guide to it...
Just abit of a change with the gear

Griffons
Hoto
Enigma
BK/Raven
Treks
Skillbelt
Trang
HOZ with 5/5 light facet

My question is i am able to buy +2 pala ammy with 19 fcr and some other mods...Is this worth the buy?

100+19 = 119 =P

Any suggestions how to reach last break point? fcr ring im guessing...just wondering if the sacrifice in skill/raven is worth the 125 BP
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Well assuming by skill belt you mean Arachs, I would just try to find a 20% fcr ammy and you would reach 125 with your current set-up. I think you have forgotten that griffons is 25 fcr.

Griff - 25
Hoto - 40
Arach - 20
Trang - 20
Total - 105 before ammy.



 
GalenDoUrden said:
Well assuming by skill belt you mean Arachs, I would just try to find a 20% fcr ammy and you would reach 125 with your current set-up. I think you have forgotten that griffons is 25 fcr.

Griff - 25
Hoto - 40
Arach - 20
Trang - 20
Total - 105 before ammy.
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It does? lol whoops, dang 19 fcr ammy at my feet and i need 1 more to hit BP...:( Thanks



 
For some reason the edit feature isnt on my previous post o.o...

Another question i have is if i wanted to further optomize my foh or hammer damage where would i drop my points...say im level 95...

holy shock?
foh?

conc?
hammer?

edit worked after i posted 2nd post -.-..
 
very nice guide, viet, can u plz check ur PM?

also, viet, wats ur strategy on using hammers properly? is it better to cast 1-2 hammers and run? or cast 1-2 hammers then tele? ive seen some ppl do it, but does this mean they :

first, they tele, then after that they immediately change to concentration aura, then change to tele again then to conc aura again and on and on???

viet, or anyone, wats ur opinion on using hammer properly? wats the best strategy to use it?

thx
 
Yes that is what they do, however, unless you have good name locking skills those are pretty much the mf hammerdins trying to do PvP. I find the best is a combination of desync charging with invisible hammers and name lock teleporting.

As for viet, he doesn't come to these forums anymore. However, I've talked to him a few times over on another forum. He doesn't play to much anymore.
 
sooooo, how exactly do u desynch? search function doesnt help me here....sorry.

also, wat is name lock and how do u use it?
 
otto said:
can someone answer PLEASE?
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now that is bumping....

Desynching is basically doing long charges with vigor aura on, not that easy to explain in a way because you do not see yourself desynch, everything looks normal for you except the person you duel does not see you on the map so that you are free to either jump on them from nowhere or lay hammer fields they will tele/run into.

http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518018 this is the best I could find, only hammer videos available unfortunately. If barb vids were still there you could see both how desynch looks and how to desynch, now only the latter is available :wink3:



 
hey does any1 know wer should i put my points into after im lvl 90?
hammer or foh?
currently with 8x pcombat gcs i do 7.8k hammer 5k foh and i can place points in about everything but vigor.
 
hunterkillerdawg said:
hey does any1 know wer should i put my points into after im lvl 90?
hammer or foh?
currently with 8x pcombat gcs i do 7.8k hammer 5k foh and i can place points in about everything but vigor.
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I would work on getting that hammer dmg up. 7.8K is quite low.



 
sorry for such a late reply

i've been absent in these forums and i haven't been playing much in-game neither

i'll get back to all your questions at a later time... also i've decided there were a few errors in this guide so i'm looking forward to revising it
 
I think the best scepter for a mage is a 5sox with +3hammer and +3foh =)
but i dont like those ones but i think its better then the +3foh 3conv ones
 
RazCotton said:
Im making a mage Hammer/Foh and ill be following your exact guide to it...
Just abit of a change with the gear

Griffons
Hoto
Enigma
BK/Raven
Treks
Skillbelt
Trang
HOZ with 5/5 light facet

My question is i am able to buy +2 pala ammy with 19 fcr and some other mods...Is this worth the buy?

100+19 = 119 =P

Any suggestions how to reach last break point? fcr ring im guessing...just wondering if the sacrifice in skill/raven is worth the 125 BP
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well if you get a 20fcr ammy like galendourden said you can reach the 125fcr bp

the only problem i see with this setup is that you only have 20fhr from treks... i think you should always hit the 48fhr bp at the very least so you might want to socket your griffons with a shael or get pcombat fhr gcs / fhr scs


RazCotton said:
For some reason the edit feature isnt on my previous post o.o...

Another question i have is if i wanted to further optomize my foh or hammer damage where would i drop my points...say im level 95...

holy shock?
foh?

conc?
hammer?

edit worked after i posted 2nd post -.-..
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depends entirely on your setup... post here with your exact setup or PM it to me and i'll help you optimize your damage

hunterkillerdawg said:
hey does any1 know wer should i put my points into after im lvl 90?
hammer or foh?
currently with 8x pcombat gcs i do 7.8k hammer 5k foh and i can place points in about everything but vigor.
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definitely get your hammer damage up to at least 8k+ if you're having problems optimizing just PM me and i'll help you

MadriK said:
I think the best scepter for a mage is a 5sox with +3hammer and +3foh =)
but i dont like those ones but i think its better then the +3foh 3conv ones
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if you're going to use a 5os scepter then it should be 3foh/3conviction stick for a more FOH-orientated mage... if you're going for more hammers hoto > all

a priest's scepter of the magus with +hammer +foh +conviction or concentration would be interesting though



 
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