Vengeance Paladin, eth rare Phaseblade or BotD?

d2lover

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I rack at the moment Berserker Axes in 1.07 and was just wondering:

What weapon do you consider as best for a Vengeance Paladin in 1.14d?

BotD in eth 1.07 base or a 400+ed eth rare Phaseblade (upped from Crystal/Dimension sword).

With BotD you will reach the second to last breakpoint (without Faithrogue), but with a Phaseblade you reach easily the last breakpoint, even if it gets only 1 socket.
On the other hand, BotD comes with mana+lifeleech, so that has to come from somewhere with the PB.

Has someone played a Paladin with BotD, or maybe with a good eth Phaseblade?
 

saracen85

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Never played an avenger with eBOTD, but the poor man's version aka Oath as well as Eth Cruel PB. As mentioned, attacking at 9FPA and 8FPA respectively.

It does feel a tad faster on the PB, but IMO the allure of the PB is this one thing; MINIMUM DAMAGE 😅

PB readout:
miniME's Loath Thirst
Phase Blade
One Hand Damage: 216 - 221
Indestructible
Required Level: 75
Required Strength: 15
Required Dexterity: 126
Fingerprint: 0xa34c961f
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
314% Enhanced Damage
Adds 26 - 6 Damage
Adds 1 - 11 Fire Damage
Required Level +7
Ethereal
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ruby Jewel of Bliss

Ruby Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 58
Fingerprint: 0x2ac918cc
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
32% Enhanced Damage
+10 to Minimum Damage


Here are my two builds' gear dumps fyi:

Name: baranar
Class: Paladin
Experience: 1156310925
Level: 86

Naked/Gear
Strength: 153/187
Dexterity: 80/114
Vitality: 277/297
Energy: 15/25
HP: 1041/1222
Mana: 142/270
Stamina: 426/446
Defense: 20/2186
AR: 385/22554

Fire: 195/155/95
Cold: 197/157/97
Lightning: 200/160/100
Poison: 183/143/83

Main/Switch
MF: 0 Block: 58 (75 with HS)
GF: 0 FR/W: 33
FHR: 30 6Fr IAS: 95
FCR: 0



***SKILLS***

Sacrifice: 1/9
Smite: 1/9
Holy Bolt: 1/9
Zeal: 1/9
Charge: 1/9
Vengeance: 5/13 9FPA
Blessed Hammer: 1/9
Conversion: 0/0
Holy Shield: 1/9
Fist of the Heavens: 0/0

Might: 1/7
Holy Fire: 1/7
Thorns: 1/7
Blessed Aim: 0/0
Concentration: 0/0
Holy Freeze: 1/7
Holy Shock: 0/0
Sanctuary: 1/7
Fanaticism: 0/0
Conviction: 19/25

Prayer: 0/0
Resist Fire: 20/28
Defiance: 0/0
Resist Cold: 20/28
Cleansing: 0/0
Resist Lightning: 20/28
Vigor: 0/0
Meditation: 0/0
Redemption: 0/0
Salvation: 1/9



***GEAR***

Crown of Ages
Corona
Defense: 351
Durability: 46 of 50
Required Level: 82
Required Strength: 174
Fingerprint: 0xdfc9fb88
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Indestructible
+1 to All Skills
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+50% Enhanced Defense
+102 Defense
All Resistances +52
Damage Reduced by 13%
2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Scintillating Jewel of Fervor
Socketed: Scintillating Jewel of Fervor

Scintillating Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0x6efdcc09
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Cold Resist +14%
Lightning Resist +14%
Fire Resist +14%
Poison Resist +14%

Scintillating Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0xe4a22e4d
Item Level: 47
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Cold Resist +13%
Lightning Resist +13%
Fire Resist +13%
Poison Resist +13%


Guardian Angel
Templar Coat
Defense: 825
Durability: 60 of 60
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 118
Fingerprint: 0x98cc52aa
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Paladin Skill Levels
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+30% Faster Block Rate
20% Increased Chance of Blocking
+215 to Attack Rating against Demons (Based on Character Level)
+200% Enhanced Defense
+15% to Maximum Poison Resist
+15% to Maximum Cold Resist
+15% to Maximum Lightning Resist
+15% to Maximum Fire Resist
All Resistances +5
+4 to Light Radius
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Shimmering Jewel of Fervor

Shimmering Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0x79f57ddc
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Cold Resist +5%
Lightning Resist +5%
Fire Resist +5%
Poison Resist +5%


baranar's String of Ears
Demonhide Sash
Defense: 112
Durability: 22 of 22
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 20
Fingerprint: 0xf2a26fbe
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
8% Life stolen per hit
+178% Enhanced Defense
+15 Defense
Damage Reduced by 15%
Magic Damage Reduced by 11
+10 Maximum Durability


baranar's Dracul's Grasp
Vampirebone Gloves
Defense: 128
Durability: 14 of 14
Required Level: 76
Required Strength: 50
Fingerprint: 0x797352cd
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
5% Chance to cast level 10 Life Tap on striking
10% Life stolen per hit
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+94% Enhanced Defense
+14 to Strength
+10 Life after each Kill


baranar's Gore Rider
War Boots
Defense: 157
Durability: 34 of 34
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 94
Fingerprint: 0x159e0910
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+30% Faster Run/Walk
15% Chance of Crushing Blow
15% Deadly Strike
10% Chance of Open Wounds
+191% Enhanced Defense
+20 Maximum Stamina
Requirements -25%
+10 Maximum Durability


Seraph's Hymn
Amulet
Required Level: 65
Fingerprint: 0xe6445acf
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+2 to Defensive Aura Skills (Paladin Only)
+40% Damage to Demons
+218 to Attack Rating against Demons
+36% Damage to Undead
+238 to Attack Rating against Undead
+2 to Light Radius


Raven Frost
Ring
Required Level: 45
Fingerprint: 0x9337c5f2
Item Level: 59
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+152 to Attack Rating
Adds 15 - 45 Cold Damage Over 4 Secs (100 Frames)
+19 to Dexterity
+40 to Mana
Cold Absorb 20%
Cannot Be Frozen


Entropy Master
Ring
Required Level: 74
Fingerprint: 0x1b12ec7c
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+108 to Attack Rating
6% Mana stolen per hit
+15 to Dexterity
+88 to Mana
Cold Resist +12%
Level 4 Ice Blast (30/30 Charges)


Oath (MAIN)
Berserker Axe
ShaelPulMalLum
One Hand Damage: 155 - 457
Indestructible
Required Level: 64
Required Strength: 128
Required Dexterity: 49
Fingerprint: 0x9a7d4300
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
30% Chance to cast level 20 Bone Spirit on striking
Indestructible
+50% Increased Attack Speed
332% Enhanced Damage
+75% Damage to Demons
+100 to Attack Rating against Demons
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 to Energy
+12 Magic Absorb
Level 16 Heart of Wolverine (20/20 Charges)
Level 17 Iron Golem (14/14 Charges)
Ethereal
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Shael Rune
Socketed: Pul Rune
Socketed: Mal Rune
Socketed: Lum Rune


Herald of Zakarum (MAIN)
Gilded Shield
Defense: 483
Chance to Block: 52
Durability: 50 of 50
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 89
Fingerprint: 0x8e3e5838
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Combat Skills (Paladin Only)
+2 to Paladin Skill Levels
+30% Faster Block Rate
30% Increased Chance of Blocking
20% Bonus to Attack Rating
+186% Enhanced Defense
+20 to Strength
+20 to Vitality
All Resistances +69
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Perfect Diamond



**INVENTORY**

8x Max Damage/Life GCs
Resists SCs
- 40 All
Fine SCs

Horadric Cube
Fingerprint: 0x4d92e177
Item Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Tome of Town Portal
Fingerprint: 0x4c785dc
Item Level: 11
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Key
Fingerprint: 0x853a3b1b
Item Level: 2
Version: Expansion 1.10+



Mercenary:

Name: Khaleel
Race: Eastern Sorceror
Type: Cold-Normal
Experience: 77228236
Level: 86
Dead?: false

Naked/Gear
Strength: 138/148
Dexterity: 111/117
HP: 1195/1195
Defense: 842/2248
AR: 1694/1694

Fire: 145/105/45
Cold: 180/140/80
Lightning: 204/164/104
Poison: 210/170/110


Bone Brow
Circlet
Defense: 30
Durability: 35 of 35
Required Level: 29
Fingerprint: 0x4b03602f
Item Level: 67
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Faster Cast Rate
+10 to Strength
Lightning Resist +24%
Magic Damage Reduced by 3
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Perfect Amethyst


Stealth
Wyrmhide
TalEth
Defense: 1048
Durability: 13 of 13
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 74
Fingerprint: 0xf8649340
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+25% Faster Run/Walk
+25% Faster Cast Rate
+25% Faster Hit Recovery
+6 to Dexterity
Regenerate Mana 15%
+15 Maximum Stamina
Poison Resist +30%
Magic Damage Reduced by 3
Ethereal
2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Eth Rune


Spirit
Crystal Sword
TalThulOrtAmn
One Hand Damage: 7 - 22
Durability: 11 of 11
Required Level: 25
Required Strength: 33
Fingerprint: 0x841afc4f
Item Level: 73
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+35% Faster Cast Rate
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
7% Life stolen per hit
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+22 to Vitality
+93 to Mana
+4 Magic Absorb
Ethereal
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Thul Rune
Socketed: Ort Rune
Socketed: Amn Rune


Spirit
Monarch
TalThulOrtAmn
Defense: 328
Chance to Block: 0
Durability: 44 of 44
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 146
Fingerprint: 0xea84a8c7
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+35% Faster Cast Rate
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+22 to Vitality
+96 to Mana
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
+6 Magic Absorb
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Ethereal
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Thul Rune
Socketed: Ort Rune
Socketed: Amn Rune
Damage: 2K-7K



Name: miniME
Class: Paladin
Experience: 1052174121
Level: 85

Naked/Gear
Strength: 102/122
Dexterity: 140/165
Vitality: 263/263
Energy: 15/15
HP: 997/1278
Mana: 141/206
Stamina: 411/441
Defense: 35/2084
AR: 685/810

Fire: 181/141/81
Cold: 164/124/64
Lightning: 181/141/81
Poison: 163/123/63

MF: 42 Block: 51 (75 with HS)
GF: 16 FR/W: 30
FHR: 40 7Fr IAS: 55
FCR: 0



***SKILLS***

Sacrifice: 1/1
Smite: 1/1
Holy Bolt: 1/1
Zeal: 1/1
Charge: 1/1
Vengeance: 20/20 8FPA
Blessed Hammer: 1/1
Conversion: 0/0
Holy Shield: 1/1
Fist of the Heavens: 0/0

Might: 1/1
Holy Fire: 1/1
Thorns: 1/1
Blessed Aim: 0/0
Concentration: 0/0
Holy Freeze: 1/1
Holy Shock: 0/0
Sanctuary: 1/1
Fanaticism: 0/0
Conviction: 20/20

Prayer: 0/0
Resist Fire: 15/17
Defiance: 0/0
Resist Cold: 14/16
Cleansing: 0/0
Resist Lightning: 15/17
Vigor: 0/0
Meditation: 0/0
Redemption: 0/0
Salvation: 0/0



***GEAR***

Stealskull
Casque
Defense: 243
Durability: 24 of 24
Required Level: 35
Required Strength: 59
Fingerprint: 0x5f5b3b2d
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+25% Increased Attack Speed
+10% Faster Hit Recovery
+8 to Minimum Damage
5% Mana stolen per hit
5% Life stolen per hit
+234% Enhanced Defense
42% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Crimson Jewel of Fervor

Crimson Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0xa5f5e5
Item Level: 73
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+8 to Minimum Damage


miniME's Griswold's Heart
Ornate Plate
Defense: 947
Durability: 60 of 60
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 62
Fingerprint: 0x32bec43a
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Defensive Aura Skills (Paladin Only)
+31 to Minimum Damage
+500 Defense
+20 to Strength
+17 to Mana
Fire Resist +30%
Requirements -40%
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Scarlet Jewel of Bliss
Socketed: Ruby Jewel of Bliss
Socketed: Turquoise Jewel of Bliss

Scarlet Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0x8ca1781f
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+11 to Minimum Damage

Ruby Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0xb8b7b40f
Item Level: 46
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Minimum Damage
Fire Resist +30%

Turquoise Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0x1cd97dfe
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Minimum Damage
+17 to Mana


Trang-Oul's Girth
Troll Belt
Defense: 155
Durability: 18 of 18
Required Level: 62
Required Strength: 55
Fingerprint: 0x8bb0e97
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+96 Defense
+66 to Life
Replenish Life +5
+48 to Mana
+30 Maximum Stamina
Cannot Be Frozen
Requirements -40%
Set (3 items): Cold Resist +40%


Bloodfist
Sharkskin Gloves
Defense: 50
Durability: 14 of 14
Required Level: 30
Required Strength: 20
Fingerprint: 0x75346236
Item Level: 49
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10% Increased Attack Speed
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+5 to Minimum Damage
+20% Enhanced Defense
+10 Defense
+40 to Life
Required Level +5


Goblin Toe
Light Plated Boots
Defense: 34
Durability: 18 of 18
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 50
Fingerprint: 0x47ae26c6
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
25% Chance of Crushing Blow
+60% Enhanced Defense
+15 Defense
Damage Reduced by 1
Magic Damage Reduced by 1
-1 to Light Radius


The Cat's Eye
Amulet
Required Level: 50
Fingerprint: 0x88565069
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+100 Defense
+100 Defense vs. Missile
+25 to Dexterity


Scintillating Ring of Performance
Ring
Required Level: 73
Fingerprint: 0x53d2c456
Item Level: 92
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+13 to Minimum Damage
All Resistances +15


Scintillating Ring of Performance
Ring
Required Level: 73
Fingerprint: 0x4100bc79
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+13 to Minimum Damage
All Resistances +12


miniME's Loath Thirst
Phase Blade
One Hand Damage: 216 - 221
Indestructible
Required Level: 75
Required Strength: 15
Required Dexterity: 126
Fingerprint: 0xa34c961f
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
314% Enhanced Damage
Adds 26 - 6 Damage
Adds 1 - 11 Fire Damage
Required Level +7
Ethereal
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ruby Jewel of Bliss

Ruby Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 58
Fingerprint: 0x2ac918cc
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
32% Enhanced Damage
+10 to Minimum Damage


miniME's Gemmed Sacred Rondache
Sacred Rondache
Defense: 160
Chance to Block: 0
Durability: 68 of 68
Required Level: 52
Required Strength: 109
Fingerprint: 0xb981de10
Item Level: 76
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+40 to Minimum Damage
Cold Resist +23%
All Resistances +43
Poison Resist +22%
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Lapis Lazuli Jewel of Bliss
Socketed: Lapis Lazuli Jewel of Bliss
Socketed: Jade Jewel of Bliss
Socketed: Beryl Jewel of Bliss

Lapis Lazuli Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0x9ca5eba8
Item Level: 60
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Minimum Damage
Cold Resist +15%

Lapis Lazuli Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0x4a0ba58e
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Minimum Damage
Cold Resist +8%

Jade Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0xac5b50eb
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Minimum Damage
Poison Resist +17%

Beryl Jewel of Bliss
Jewel
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0xf2daf1d2
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Minimum Damage
Poison Resist +5%


The Redeemer (SWITCH)
Mighty Scepter
One Hand Damage: 227 - 295
Durability: 25 of 26
Required Level: 72
Required Strength: 46
Required Dexterity: 22
Fingerprint: 0x4bcc122f
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Paladin Skill Levels
279% Enhanced Damage
Damage +118
-33% Target Defense
+249% Damage to Demons
+150% Damage to Undead
+3 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Bolt (Paladin Only)
+3 to Light Radius
Requirements -60%
Ethereal


Herald of Zakarum (SWITCH)
Gilded Shield
Defense: 454
Chance to Block: 52
Durability: 50 of 50
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 89
Fingerprint: 0x261aa989
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Combat Skills (Paladin Only)
+2 to Paladin Skill Levels
+30% Faster Block Rate
30% Increased Chance of Blocking
20% Bonus to Attack Rating
+169% Enhanced Defense
+20 to Strength
+20 to Vitality
All Resistances +50



**INVENTORY**

6x Min Damage/Life GCs
Resists SCs
- 55 All
- 5 Cold
- 26 Lightning

Horadric Cube
Fingerprint: 0xaad5361e
Item Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Tome of Town Portal
Fingerprint: 0xb1a7f5fb
Item Level: 76
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Key
Fingerprint: 0xbb7265a8
Item Level: 76
Version: Expansion 1.10+



Mercenary:

Name: Leharas
Race: Desert Mercenary
Type: Off-Nightmare
Experience: 72884904
Level: 84
Dead?: false

Naked/Gear
Strength: 184/199
Dexterity: 148/148
HP: 1727/1812
Defense: 1274/2531
AR: 1898/1898

Fire: 168/128/68
Cold: 198/158/98
Lightning: 168/128/68
Poison: 168/128/68


Delirium
Bone Visage
LemIstIo
Defense: 553
Durability: 21 of 21
Required Level: 63
Required Strength: 96
Fingerprint: 0xa0474b5f
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
1% Chance to cast level 50 Delirium when struck
6% Chance to cast level 14 Mind Blast when struck
14% Chance to cast level 13 Terror when struck
11% Chance to cast level 18 Confuse on striking
+2 to All Skills
+261 Defense
+10 to Vitality
50% Extra Gold from Monsters
25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Level 17 Attract (60/60 Charges)
Ethereal
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Lem Rune
Socketed: Ist Rune
Socketed: Io Rune


Duriel's Shell
Cuirass
Defense: 704
Durability: 29 of 150
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 65
Fingerprint: 0xbe5158f0
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+195% Enhanced Defense
+106 Defense (Based on Character Level)
+15 to Strength
+85 to Life (Based on Character Level)
Cold Resist +30%
All Resistances +20
Cannot Be Frozen
+100 Maximum Durability


Bonehew
Ogre Axe
Two Hand Damage: 162 - 839
Durability: 26 of 26
Required Level: 64
Required Strength: 185
Required Dexterity: 65
Fingerprint: 0x7173ede8
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
50% Chance to cast level 16 Bone Spear on striking
+30% Increased Attack Speed
287% Enhanced Damage
14% Life stolen per hit
Prevent Monster Heal
Level 14 Corpse Explosion (4/30 Charges)
Ethereal
2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Amn Rune
Socketed: Amn Rune
Damage: 5K-5K


I understand you're a 1.07 player, which means you can farm for those sweet sweet 5+ min damage grand charms as well..

Having 5%++ dual leech should be fine, otherwise you can resort to 1 point Redemption.

8/9 frame melee attacks mean that crowd control/tanking ability is more important imo, hence lifetap and delirium on my builds.

Other references, you can search for Asmo's Avenger builds or AJK's build in the Pat/Mat Guide. The latter uses PB.
 
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saracen85

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I'm not so sure.. The 1.07 experts can answer you that.. The ones I have are +6 and +7 min damage, which already better than the best the current patch has to offer (which is +3).

I'm not sure about min damage SCs in 1.07 either, but in 1.11++, +1 min damage SC requires ilvl 95. Definitely not worth it.
 

Jamie

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I'd take the eth rare phase blade all day and even some eth rare Zerker Axes(but I'm not going by 1.07, so I might be off).

You can roll mods that are unbelievably phenomenal. You can roll an eth PB style and upgrade it to PB still Ethereal and not need the repair durability mod or can get the mod/Zod a Zerk Axe.

You can get 450% Enhanced damage on a rare item, that is ethereal and has 2 open sockets. You can land on 40% IAS as a mod. You can land extremely helpful things like fool's mod, with cruel damage at 300% ED, one of fhe few massive sources for attack rating and a good boost to maximum damage numbers. For builds that need AR, Fool's+Cruel is king. If AR isn't needed, the full ED stack that can reach 450 is best. But both would need eth/repair mod, 2 sockets, ias up to 40 or what you need, either nice boost of attack rating or the 300ed+fools style and a few others. With claws, you want 300ed/fool's and some valuable skills added. Scepters can also land some nice pally skills on them, plus all those mods.

Last I knew there were several rare weapons that were ethereal, that pushed the limits on either max ED or 300%Cruel+Fool's, and came out as a superior weapon to all the runewords(except Grief). But those types of items are so mind bogglingly rare, I wouldn't expect to stumble across them on Single Player anytime soon. Most people believe they are usually imported to bnet, others just from mass bots running across servers all day. They are also more popular on bnet because of Grief being BM in duels with venom. But you can

I did once find a rare normal style of the mat bow, with cruel mod I bekieve into the low 400's%ED, 20-40%IAS, 2 open sockets, AR, %CTC Amplify Damage, Attack Rating and I forgot other mods or how many +bowskills. I found it legitimately on bnet and traded it off. It had the CTC amp and another mod that made it BM for dueling, but was a cool find nack in the day.

Grief in a PB typically trumps all with damage and lack of repairing. But a rare eth with self repair+300ed+fools mad+2 socket for Lo/Ed-ias/Ohm/Eth/Jah/Ber or whatever you need depending on running monsters versus dueling, is also awesome and some forms I've been told are actually the best in slot, mainly in dueling. The rare obviously has for more bonus points for looks and sexiness. The odds of finding one remotely close to having the top end stats needed, is virtually impossible though lol. So if someone has one on the Single Player forums, it was probably created, does not exist yet or will never swap hands. So rare that most people with them online get accused of paying stores to create and import them.

I have an ethereal, everything perfect but 2% off on the ED, Heaven's Light, that I plan to try out on my Zealer if I come across a Zod. I know my Grief is better, but gotta go for sexy points, like with some of the crazy rare/ethereal items. I'd buy up or trade for ethereal rares with 290+ED/fool's or 400+ cruel+secondary ED mod, if people actually had them and wanted to trade.

Sorry this post was a jumbled, night time, falling asleep mess...lol.
 
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Oh Oh, I did this build too! I'm relevant! Well not really, but still.

Pyrotechnician, Guardian Phavenger - Griswold Min Damage Avenger

If you don't have all the fancy runewords or rares, you could always go with the full Griswold set if for some reason you've found all the set pieces, but I know they aren't exactly common. Reaches the 8 fpa breakpoint if you do it right in accordance with Asmo's guide which I actually linked when I did my write up. I did have some 1.07 charms which was helpful. Definitely a fun build. Highly recommend even if you just play around with different options.
 
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I'd take the eth rare phase blade all day and even some eth rare Zerker Axes(but I'm not going by 1.07, so I might be off).

You can roll mods that are unbelievably phenomenal. You can roll an eth PB style and upgrade it to PB still Ethereal and not need the repair durability mod or can get the mod/Zod a Zerk Axe.

You can get 450% Enhanced damage on a rare item, that is ethereal and has 2 open sockets. You can land on 40% IAS as a mod. You can land extremely helpful things like fool's mod, ldading to high.m cruel damage at 300% ED, one of fhe few massive sources for attack rating and a good boost to maximum damage numbers. For builds that need AR, Fool's+Cruel is king. If AR isn't needed, the full on ED. ike with *jj*has j÷
Look at this.. I mean.. urgh!!!:mad:

Carrion Barb
Phase Blade
One Hand Damage: 158 - 179
Indestructible
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Fingerprint: 0xfe404a85
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
412% Enhanced Damage
+242 to Attack Rating
Adds 11 - 31 Fire Damage
Adds 1 - 53 Lightning Damage
Adds 7 Poison Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)

I stopped picking up yellow PBs ever since. Save myself any future disappointments :ROFLMAO:
 
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If you have a L33T rare eth phase blade... I don't know how you could ever *not* use it. The style points are off the charts. Any godly rare deserves a full build.
 
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I rack at the moment Berserker Axes in 1.07 and was just wondering:

What weapon do you consider as best for a Vengeance Paladin in 1.14d?

BotD in eth 1.07 base or a 400+ed eth rare Phaseblade (upped from Crystal/Dimension sword).

With BotD you will reach the second to last breakpoint (without Faithrogue), but with a Phaseblade you reach easily the last breakpoint, even if it gets only 1 socket.
On the other hand, BotD comes with mana+lifeleech, so that has to come from somewhere with the PB.

Has someone played a Paladin with BotD, or maybe with a good eth Phaseblade?
Are you going to show us a picture of the Phase Blade? Picture preferred to readoutmm...heh.
 

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Look at this.. I mean.. urgh!!!:mad:

Carrion Barb
Phase Blade
One Hand Damage: 158 - 179
Indestructible
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Fingerprint: 0xfe404a85
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
412% Enhanced Damage
+242 to Attack Rating
Adds 11 - 31 Fire Damage
Adds 1 - 53 Lightning Damage
Adds 7 Poison Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)

I stopped picking up yellow PBs ever since. Save myself any future disappointments :ROFLMAO:
Those are absolutely teases. Stick to crystsl and dimensional lmao. I have a few rare, eth, 400+ ed weapons sitting in stashes thst I'll dig out and post when I get to my PC. I've found exactly zero ZOD runes in 20 years, I've never even witnessed one drop in a game I was in online before. So I'm not holding onto too much hope that I'll get to Zod any of them or that I'll get to use a Zod in my completely perfect Heaven's Light(minus 2% from perfect ED). I really want to Zod that and then figure out if I will need something like a 40/15, Lo, Ohm or what in the remaining open slot. But that is way cooler than a Grief, albeit not nearly as good I am sure, haha. But I will probably have to trade for a Zod if I ever want to enjoy one. No Cham or Zod ever.. what terrible luck in around 20 years of gsmeplay..
 
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Those are absolutely teases. Stick to crystsl and dimensional lmao. I have a few rare, eth, 400+ ed weapons sitting in stashes thst I'll dig out and post when I get to my PC. I've found exactly zero ZOD runes in 20 years, I've never even witnessed one drop in a game I was in online before. So I'm not holding onto too much hope that I'll get to Zod any of them or that I'll get to use a Zod in my completely perfect Heaven's Light(minus 2% from perfect ED). I really want to Zod that and then figure out if I will need something like a 40/15, Lo, Ohm or what in the remaining open slot. But that is way cooler than a Grief, albeit not nearly as good I am sure, haha. But I will probably have to trade for a Zod if I ever want to enjoy one. No Cham or Zod ever.. what terrible luck in around 20 years of gsmeplay..
Lolz. To be fair, for an avenger, lots of weapons are better than grief.. :ROFLMAO:
 
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